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[quote name='ThurmanMunster' post='339592' date='Sep 14 2006, 12:24 AM']Bet my kiss, can get you high
Don't pass by
Grab me by my nuts
When I'm loving you
Now open up and let me put the thug in you
:1hump: :1hump: :1hump:
:headbang: :headbang: :headbang:[/quote]

U my main man now that I kno u like that song. :afropic:

"God damn sweethart, u got some thighs on u
Now I cant wait to get u home, get u all alone
In my bedroom, babi can we bone
And get it on"

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[quote name='whodey 85' post='339596' date='Sep 14 2006, 12:29 AM']U my main man now that I kno u like that song. :afropic:

"God damn sweethart, u got some thighs on u
Now I cant wait to get u home, get u all alone
In my bedroom, babi can we bone
And get it on"

:2rave:[/quote]

ive had that song downloaded for a long time.

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[url="http://music.yahoo.com/read/news/35681370"]http://music.yahoo.com/read/news/35681370[/url]

10 years later, Tupac's legacy lives on

09/13/2006 8:00 AM, AP
Nekesa Mumbi Moody

Visit Y! Music's Tupac Tribute Here

In the years since hip-hop lost its most dynamic figure, several superstars have embodied the qualities that made Tupac Shakur such a legend.

50 Cent's vicious raps and bullet-scarred body recall Shakur's reckless, dangerous side. Eminem's tortured lyrics remind us of Shakur's dark and depressing images of life. Jay-Z's many hits are reminiscent of Shakur's prolific output.

But 10 years after Shakur died on Sept. 13, 1996, the victim of a drive-by shooting, no rapper is as complex, as multifaceted, as challenging. A handsome and charismatic actor, a violent felon, a brilliant songwriter, a reckless celebrity, a misogynist and a visionary — Shakur still fascinates from the grave.

"I want to be in the future known as somebody," Shakur once said. "I want people to be talking about me, like, 'Remember when he was real bad?'"

They're still talking. Unlike so many other rap stars, Shakur represented an actual character, instead of a caricature.

"His messages were really strong and heartfelt, and he was a real person. He could go from saying 'Keep your head' up to using the word b---- in the next song," Kanye West told The Associated Press. "There was no box that he was put in, and he lived and died by what he said."

Though just 25 when an assailant sprayed his car with bullets as he rode shotgun down a Las Vegas street, Shakur has been the subject of numerous books, film and stage productions have explored his colorful life, and college courses have dissected his songs ranging from the player anthem "I Get Around" to the prophetic "How Long Will They Mourn Me?"

But why? Though some have anointed Shakur as the greatest rapper ever, largely due to his passion that could stir even casual listeners, the assessment is hardly universal. Others would give that title to The Notorious B.I.G., Shakur's foil who was killed months after Shakur. Others say Jay-Z reigns supreme.

As an actor in films like "Juice" and "Poetic Justice," it was clear Shakur was an explosive, raw talent — but one that needed refinement. And his personal life exposed perhaps his most troubling personal traits: In 1994 he was convicted of sexual assault, and though he espoused black empowerment, he spent the last months of his life inciting a rap war through hateful rhymes.

Yet Shakur's fallibility may ultimately explain why he remains so beloved.

"Nothing that I can answer is really going to get at it, or it's going to sound emotional and corny, but the fact of the matter is he was just a very special human being," said Vibe magazine editor in chief Danyel Smith, who knew Shakur before he became a superstar.

"He was the kind of heroic figure — very flawed, very passionate, very handsome, very outspoken, very talented — who comes along once in a lifetime," she said.

"He stood for something and he really talked about life — it wasn't just street life," OutKast's Big Boi told The AP. "He was an intelligent guy."

Tupac Amaru Shakur was born to former Black Panther Afeni Shakur in 1971 — his father wasn't around. Afeni was pregnant and incarcerated while she and other Panthers faced conspiracy charges that were later dismissed.

His mother's revolutionary qualities infused many of Shakur's raps, like the angry "Souljah's Revenge" or "Words of Wisdom." But Shakur's lyrics also reflect his unstable childhood — his mother battled drug addiction and he and his sister lived in poverty. That pain, frustration, anger and bewilderment became the inspiration for some of his most poignant, searing songs.

"He had a view that I think extended to what we would think of various kinds of sociological arguments, humanistic arguments, arguments around morality," said Marcyliena Morgan, a Stanford University associate professor and director of the school's Hiphop Archive.

Though he attended a school for talented teens while living in Baltimore, by the time he reached the California Bay Area, he was dabbling in street life. Soon his rap talent would lead him into another world that would prove just as turbulent.

As Shakur said after one arrest — "(I didn't have) no police record until I made a record."

With each platinum album, trouble found him anew. He was criticized by national figures like C. Dolores Tucker and former Vice President Dan Quayle and involved in a gunfight with off-duty police officers in Atlanta. While his pro-woman anthem "Keep Ya Head Up" scaled the charts, he was accused of leading a group in sexually assaulting a young woman in a hotel. While on trial for those charges, he survived a shooting at a recording studio where Biggie Smalls and Sean "Diddy" Combs were present.

Shakur was convicted of some charges at his sexual assault trial, and spent several months in a maximum security prison before the fearsome Suge Knight got him out on bail pending an appeal and signed Shakur to his Death Row label.

In the last year of his life, Shakur was at his most popular and sensational — and his most reckless. He ignited the so-called East Coast-West Coast war, claiming that Biggie and Diddy were responsible for his shooting (which they denied).

On the last night of his life, Shakur, Knight and their entourage delivered a violent beatdown to a rival gang member in a Las Vegas casino. Hours later, while riding in the passenger seat of Knight's BMW, Shakur was riddled with bullets. Police arrested and questioned the gang member who was stomped in the casino, but no charges have ever been filed.

While other dead celebrities are celebrated as nostalgia acts for what they once represented, Shakur remains a vital presence in today's rap world. Perhaps that's due to the volume of material he left behind. So many albums of previously unreleased songs have been issued since his death, a few people are convinced that he's still alive.

However, it may be the words of Shakur — often overshadowed by the controversy that dogged him — where his brilliance is most notable. Rather than becoming dated, songs like "So Many Tears" and "Changes" still speak to the despair and pain that remain very real in urban America.

"He was one of a kind," said Smith, "and I think whenever you want to ask yourself who Tupac is, as much as I'm a journalist and I live by headlines, don't go to the headlines to find out who Tupac was, go to the music. You will not be disappointed."





[b]im pissed that they mentioned that fuckin faggot 50 Cent in the same STORY as Tupac. Whats next JaRule? Neither of them should be allowed to be mentioned on the internet, since Tupacs name is there. Fuckin fake bitches.[/b]
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[quote name='eva4ben-gal' post='339587' date='Sep 14 2006, 12:18 AM']I think Tupacs greatest contribution to the entertainment industry was as a backup dancer for digital underground :ninja:

On another note, Bob Marley really was killed by the CIA.

I wish both of them were still here today, both had far greater things they could have accomplished, in the music industry, life and even politics. Tupac had a real message and it's a shame he got caught up in the "rap wars" and all of the greedy people who propogated them for their own profit (and who are still profiting from him today). Don't get me wrong, he wanted the money too but he was really just a pawn in the whole scenario.
He was a great actor too, The Juice is still one of my favorite movies.

Also on another note, it seems like a lot of rappers are very good actors. I just saw ATL not to long ago and I thoght TI was damn good in that and I heard Xzibit did a great job in Gridiron Gang which comes out this week. I also liked Snoop in Bossin Up.
Since I'm the subject of movies, has anybody seen "I've got five on it"? Its a pretty funny low budget stoner flick by the Quiroz Bros. I highly recommend it if you don't mind a movie without the finely polished look of a hollywood flick.
I know, I know :hijack:

RIP Tupac[/quote]

Above the Rim was a rape movie too as was Poetic Justice

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[quote][quote name='sneaky' post='339625' date='Sep 14 2006, 01:00 AM']
order of greatest rappers of all time.....

#1. Tupac
#2. Biggie
#3. Snoop
#4. sneaky (me)
#5. Eminem[/quote]


[quote name='whodey24k' post='339630' date='Sep 14 2006, 01:03 AM']1. Biggie
2. Snoop
3. Tupac
4. Redman
5. Jay-Z
others reciving votes: NAS,Eminem,ODB,Method Man,kanye west[/quote]
[/quote]


i assume u mean old snoop cuz new snoop is LAME, i consider myself blacker than him now :ninja:

1) Tupac
2) Biggie
3) Eminem
4) Dre (i know people will hate me for this)
5) Old Snoop/NWA/Eazy E


rappers i like that dont get top 5: 36mafia, kanye west, trick daddy, chamillionaire, Game, Ice Cube, TI (lotta people hate him lol)

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[quote name='sneaky' post='339625' date='Sep 14 2006, 01:00 AM']order of greatest rappers of all time.....

#1. Tupac
#2. Biggie
#3. Snoop
#4. sneaky (me)
#5.[s] Eminem[/s] public enemy ;)[/quote]


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[quote name='sneaky' post='339625' date='Sep 14 2006, 01:00 AM']order of greatest rappers of all time.....

#1. Tupac
#2. Biggie
#3. Snoop
[b]#4. sneaky (me)[/b] :rolleyes:
#5. Eminem[/quote]

Yall feelin that oldschool and westcoast, Im not gonna give yall the current 5 best rappers cause Ill just be called young and stupid so, fuck it.

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[quote name='whodey 85' post='339637' date='Sep 14 2006, 01:09 AM']Yall feelin that oldschool and westcoast, Im not gonna give yall the current 5 best rappers cause Ill just be called young and stupid so, fuck it.[/quote]

go ahead and list them, cause we already know you're young and stupid anyway.......

but we still love you.
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[quote name='sneaky' post='339638' date='Sep 14 2006, 01:11 AM']go ahead and list them, cause we already know you're young and stupid anyway.......

but we still love you.[/quote]

agreed. i wanna see who u think are the best 5 now. I hope it isnt any lame shit like Rick Ross and those fuckin pansies with 50 Cent in GUNIT
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i havent listened to much music in the past couple of months but OMG im on a hardcore music kick right now. i dont think im going to bed tonight. Ive got a good 800-900 songs to listen to now.
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[quote name='sneaky' post='339638' date='Sep 14 2006, 01:11 AM']go ahead and list them, cause we already know you're young and stupid anyway.......

but we still love you.[/quote]

Fine

1.Chamillionaire (ppl arent gonna like that)
2.Lil Wayne
3.50 Cent
4.Kanye West
5.TI
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[quote name='whodey 85' post='339641' date='Sep 14 2006, 01:17 AM']Fine

1.Chamillionaire (ppl arent gonna like that)
2.Lil Wayne
3.50 Cent
4.Kanye West
5.TI[/quote]

50 Cent blows ass. So does LIl Wayne. Id rather listen to gay porno music than these two.


I really like the other 3 tho. Chamillionaire is good.
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[quote name='whodey 85' post='339641' date='Sep 14 2006, 01:17 AM']Fine

1.Chamillionaire (ppl arent gonna like that)
2.Lil Wayne
3.50 Cent
4.Kanye West
5.TI[/quote]

whats ur favorite chamillionaire song?
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Just to throw a name out there but if u kno him, u kno he's mad krazy.

Papoose

His album Nacirema Dream is gonna hit late 06, check that shit out cause its gonna b straight fire!

I think he's the best lyricist in the world, and if uve heard him before, u already kno.
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[quote name='whodey 85' post='339644' date='Sep 14 2006, 01:20 AM']Just to throw a name out there but if u kno him, u kno he's mad krazy.

Papoose

His album Nacirema Dream is gonna hit late 06, check that shit out cause its gonna b straight fire!

I think he's the best lyricist in the world, and if uve heard him before, u already kno.[/quote]

ive heard some of his shit. Im not as impressed as some people are. Ive heard a lot of people go on about how amazing he is. He is arlight, but nothing special if u ask me.
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[quote name='ThurmanMunster' post='339643' date='Sep 14 2006, 01:20 AM']whats ur favorite chamillionaire song?[/quote]

Of course everybody knos Ridin, but some of his Mixtape songs like Screw Jams, Im True, Realist Niggas In It, his Dike Jones disses (Game Over's the best), Body Rock, etc.

He's deffinetly the best and my favorite.

He's workin on his new album, Ultimate Victory, which should b comin out early 07 is gonna be better than Sound Of Revenge, which is a Platinum Record.

Ridin Pt. 2 wit 50 Cent is gonna b tight!
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Another man who's comin out wit his 1st major album in late 06, early 07 is Stat Quo. He's gonna b droppin Statlanta, Idk if uve heard some of Stat's shit Thurman, but he's tight too.
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[quote name='whodey 85' post='339647' date='Sep 14 2006, 01:24 AM']Of course everybody knos Ridin, but some of his Mixtape songs like Screw Jams, Im True, Realist Niggas In It, his Dike Jones disses (Game Over's the best), Body Rock, etc.

He's deffinetly the best and my favorite.

He's workin on his new album, Ultimate Victory, which should b comin out early 07 is gonna be better than Sound Of Revenge, which is a Platinum Record.

Ridin Pt. 2 wit 50 Cent is gonna b tight![/quote]

ive heard all of his mixtape stuff. pretty good.


his best song is Picture Perfect imo.

You see my slab, you see my candy slab
Picture perfect nigga, you should take a photograph
You see my chick, you see my chick is bad
Picture perfect nigga, you should take a photograph
You see it's real, they be like look at that
Picture perfect nigga, you should take a photograph
Photograph, ph-ph-ph-photograph-photograph
Picture perfect nigga, you should take a photograph


Catch me today, with a cannon or a Kodak
Cause by tomorrow, yesterday gon be a throwback
You see it's real, they be like look at that
Picture perfect nigga, you should take a photograph
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[quote name='whodey 85' post='339650' date='Sep 14 2006, 01:26 AM']Another man who's comin out wit his 1st major album in late 06, early 07 is Stat Quo. He's gonna b droppin Statlanta, Idk if uve heard some of Stat's shit Thurman, but he's tight too.[/quote]

ive heard of him, but not his stuff. does he have anything to do with Kanye West?.....speaking of Kanye West....anyone here like Rhymefest?
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