Winslow hurt in motorcycle accident

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In a photo released by the Westlake, Ohio Police Department, the damaged motorcycle belonging to Cleveland Browns tight end Kellen Winslow Jr. is shown Monday, May 2, 2005. Winslow was riding in a community college parking lot Sunday, May 1, 2005, when he hit a curb at about 35 mph and was thrown from the motorcycle. (AP Photo/Westlake Police Dept.)

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Can you beleive he was trying to learn on a [b]750[/b]?!?

[Cincy_semro]

[quote name='vedderlax11' date='May 2 2005, 02:28 PM']The dumbass was going 35 MPH in a parking lot without his helmet strapped.  Dumbshit deserves whatever comes his way.
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i agree if he was stupid enough to do that
Kellen Winslow = BUST!!!!!!!!!

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looks like he was going more than 35mph by the damage

[Beaker]

KWII gets his new bike:

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Wow.

The primary problem, sources said, are potentially significant injuries to the right knee and right shoulder -- with the club unable to determine the extent of damage to either until swelling subsides.

The swelling in the knee was considerable, sources said, with the Browns fearful Winslow may have torn his anterior cruciate ligament. The club also suspects Winslow may have suffered ligament or tendon damage to his shoulder, sources said.

In addition, sources said the Browns believe Winslow may have suffered a punctured lung and an injury to his kidney, but that neither had the club overly concerned. A source close to the club said the kidney was bruised.

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[quote name='BengalsOwn' date='May 3 2005, 09:38 PM']Wow.

The primary problem, sources said, are potentially significant injuries to the right knee and right shoulder -- with the club unable to determine the extent of damage to either until swelling subsides.

The swelling in the knee was considerable, sources said, with the Browns fearful Winslow may have torn his anterior cruciate ligament. The club also suspects Winslow may have suffered ligament or tendon damage to his shoulder, sources said.

In addition, sources said the Browns believe Winslow may have suffered a punctured lung and an injury to his kidney, but that neither had the club overly concerned. A source close to the club said the kidney was bruised.

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That's gonna hurt in da morning. [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/30.gif[/img]

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[quote name='BlackJesus' date='May 2 2005, 03:05 PM']My day just got better

       
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[quote name='Beaker' date='May 3 2005, 05:41 PM']KWII gets his new bike:

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[quote name='BengalsOwn' date='May 3 2005, 09:38 PM']In addition, sources said the Browns believe [b] Winslow may have suffered a punctured lung and an injury to his kidney, but that neither had the club overly concerned.[/b] A source close to the club said the kidney was bruised.

[url="http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/8441251/rss"]http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/8441251/rss[/url]
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who do they think their team doctor is, Jesus?

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Winslow likely done for the year

By MIKE McLAIN Tribune Chronicle

BEREA - The joy ride Kellen Winslow Jr. took on his motorcycle last Sunday is expected to cost the Browns highly-touted tight end the 2005 season.

The Tribune Chronicle has learned that Winslow suffered a tear of the anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee. Surgery will be required, which means that Winslow will likely miss the upcoming season.

Timetables for recovering from ACL surgery vary depending on the severity of the tear and the individual. A common reference point is a minimum of eight to 10 months, but it's possible that Winslow might need a full year to recover from surgery.

The Browns issued a statement Wednesday afternoon confirming that Winslow was still hospitalized, but no details of the knee injury were given. The statement did say that concern remains with the right knee. It went on to say that the team wouldn't comment on any aspects of his contract.

The team could recover $5 million of his initial $6 million signing bonus and the entire $4.4125 million option bonus that was triggered in early March. Winslow received $2 million of that bonus in March, but the remaining $2.4125 isn't payable until July 15.

Agents Kevin and Carl Poston negotiated a six-year, $40 million contract for Winslow last year, which is the most lucrative ever for a NFL tight end. The total value was reduced to $29.4175 million when Winslow failed to meet an incentive for playing time because of a season-ending ankle injury suffered in a week two game against the Dallas Cowboys. The one-time incentive would have activated $5.367 million in future bonuses and $5.215 million in future base salaries.

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he seems to be really excited to be healthy and finally able to play again, oh wait thats right he probably wont play again in his career, dumbass

click the last video on the right side of the article, there are some other good ones too

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From ESPN:
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TE's pact has clause prohibiting 'hazardous activities'
By Len Pasquarelli
ESPN.com


Whether the Cleveland Browns attempt to recover a portion of Kellen Winslow's bonus money, or perhaps even terminate the landmark contract he signed in 2004 as a first-round draft choice, might depend on whether the injured tight end plays in 2005.

And whether the former University of Miami star plays at all this season could depend on if the worst fears of Browns officials – that injuries Winslow sustained in a Sunday motorcycle accident include a torn anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee – are realized.

A number of media reports indicate that Winslow did tear the ligament, in the same leg he fractured in the second game of the '04 season, and that the surgery required to repair the damage will sideline him for all of 2005. However, none of those reports has come from the team – which, except for two short press releases, has largely reserved comment on the specifics of Winslow's injuries.

Because the injuries occurred in a non-football activity, the Browns are not compelled by league guidelines to detail them. A team spokesman reiterated Wednesday that the Browns are respecting the wishes of the Winslow family in terms of confidentiality.

Two team sources have told ESPN.com, however, that Cleveland officials fear Winslow will miss the 2005 season because of the knee injury. One of them said the club "strongly suspects" an anterior cruciate tear, based on the degree of swelling in the knee. Because of that swelling, though, not even the Cleveland medical staff might be certain yet about the damage to the knee. There are times when an MRI exam is rendered meaningless because excessive swelling does not permit a clear reading of the test.

If the team has conducted an MRI exam and is aware of ligament damage, officials are not saying at this point.

The one element that is clear, based on a copy of Winslow's contract obtained by ESPN.com, is that the Browns have an avenue to seek financial recourse on what was a six-year contract with a maximum value of $40 million when it was signed. But sources from the NFL Management Council, the league's labor arm, and the NFL Players Association acknowledged that the Browns probably will not attempt to enforce the penalty elements of Winslow's contract if he is able to play this season.

Kellen Winslow
Tight End
Cleveland Browns
Profile
2004 SEASON STATISTICS
Rec Yds TD Avg Long YAC
5 50 0 10.0 21 22



And even if he isn't, the sources said, Cleveland officials will exercise deliberation in deciding whether to seek repayment of portions of Winslow's signing bonus and option bonus.

"[The Browns] could make the case that, just by riding the motorcycle, he is in breach of the contract," said one league source with experience in such cases. "The language in his contract is pretty explicit. On the other hand, if Winslow plays, he could argue that there was no viable consequence to the accident, since the Browns were really not deprived of his services. It's a pretty dicey thing, either way. If this guy is a part of your future, to what extent do you want to alienate him? There's got to kind of be a combination of sense and sensitivity here, you know?"

At least twice in Winslow's contract – in the "optional extension agreement" and in the "signing, reporting and playing bonus addendum" – there is specific language regarding the off-field activities in which the player is precluded from participating. The sections of both addendums are similar in verbiage and refer to "hazardous activities" that "involve a significant risk of personal injury ... including, but not limited to skydiving, hang gliding, mountain climbing, auto racing, motorcycling, scuba diving and skiing."

The bonus addendum stipulates that, if Winslow defaults on the contract between Feb. 2, 2005 and Feb. 1, 2006, "the player shall forfeit and immediately return and refund to [the] club," $5 million of his original $6 million signing bonus. In the case of the optional extension agreement, Winslow could be asked to relinquish all of the $4,412,500 option payment if he defaults on or before Feb. 1, 2006.



AP Photo/Westlake Police Dept.
Kellen Winslow's injuries from his motorcycle accident may cost him millions.
The option payment extends the contract through the 2010 season. The Browns already paid Winslow $2 million of the $4,412,500 to exercise the option. The balance is due on July 15, 2006.

The contract, executed on Aug. 11, 2004, also reads: "It is further understood and agreed that [the] player's waiver of rights to certain unpaid amounts, and [the] player's obligation to repay certain amounts of [these bonuses] are express provisions of this contract and, but for the provisions herein contained, [the] club would not have executed this contract."

The total value of what started as a contract with a maximum worth of $40 million was already reduced to about $29.4 million last season when Winslow fractured his right ankle in the second game of the year. That injury precluded him from reaching a one-time incentive that would have paid Winslow $5.37 million and also would have triggered escalators that would have raised future base salaries by $5.215 million.

Len Pasquarelli is a senior writer for ESPN.com

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Here's the latest. WOW.

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CLEVELAND -- Browns tight end Kellen Winslow's injuries are much more serious than first thought, NewsChannel5 reported.




5 On Your Side Health Team Anchor Lee Jordan reported sources close to the Winslow story said the Sunday motorcycle accident left Winslow with a broken tibia and femur, along with a fracture to the large bone in his thigh. His ACL was damaged, possibly torn and there are lacerations on his liver and kidney.

NewsChannel5's source continues to stand by the information.

One media outlet is even suggesting Winslow's football career is over, WEWS reported.

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Wild rides lured Winslow Winslow's wild ride
Injured Brown emulated stunt cyclists, but lacked their training

Saturday, May 07, 2005
Mary Kay Cabot
Plain Dealer Reporter

One afternoon in March, Browns tight end Kellen Winslow Jr. was playing paint ball with friends in the back yard of his Westlake home when he heard a rumbling in the parking lot behind his house.

He looked and saw someone performing wheelies and other stunts on a motorcycle.

He went to the lot and introduced himself to the rider, Jason Campana.

Campana and Winslow exchanged phone numbers. Before long, Campana was hanging out at Winslow's house talking about motorcycles, according to interviews with Westlake police and sources close to Winslow.

Winslow was so pumped about what Campana could do on his Suzuki GSX-R600 that he decided to buy a bike. Campana, 19, hooked him up with his buddies at State 8 Cycles in Cuyahoga Falls.

Because Winslow is 6-4, 250 pounds, Campana thought he would be better suited to the Suzuki GSR-R750 than the 600. It's more powerful than Campana's bike, but Campana and the salesman at State 8 both thought the 750 was the right choice.

Winslow, a novice, bought the shiny, red bike about April 9 and received it a few days later. Soon, Campana was teaching him how to ride, how to shift gears and operate the clutch. Campana, who has been riding motorbikes since he was about 8, advised Winslow to take a safety course at Polaris Career Center, but the tight end did not follow the advice, he said.

Before long, Winslow and Campana were riding around Winslow's Westlake neighborhood, much to the chagrin of neighbors. On April 16, one got fed up and called the police.

"He was going up and down the street about 50 miles per hour," said the neighbor, who asked not to be identified. "He was popping wheelies and dogging it. I got tired of it and called the police. There's eight to 10 children right around where he lives."

Lt. Ray Arcuri of Westlake police said a sergeant was sent to the Cornerstone development where Winslow lives, "but by the time we arrived, we were unable to locate anybody doing it."

Another neighbor, Dr. Robert Nahigian, a dentist and president of the Cornerstone Homeowners' Association, tried to stop Winslow.

"One day he and someone else went down the street about 15 times doing wheelies," he said. "One of them did a wheelie right in front of my house. After about 15 minutes, I waved him down."

Nahigian told Winslow that he didn't think he should be doing stunts in a residential area. "I also told him that I was concerned about his own safety," Nahigian said. "He told me he wasn't going over the speed limit."

Nahigian questioned why Winslow would perform such dangerous acts when he was still rehabbing from a broken right fibula and ligament damage in his ankle.

"He would walk his dog and he wasn't even walking well before the accident," said Nahigian.

When he wasn't practicing, Winslow would often pop in a tape of the Starboyz, a stunt riding team whose three main riders are from Akron. The Starboyz travel all over, performing stunts.

A day or two before Winslow's motorcycle accident, he burned out the clutches on his bike attempting a burnout, a trick that involves spinning the back wheels, said Scott Caraboolad, president and founder of the Starboyz. Caraboolad said one of his Starboyz associates works at State 8 and sold Winslow the new clutches. Then, Caraboolad said, the State 8 guys fixed his bike for him.

"The guys at State 8 were trying to get Kellen to come take private lessons with us," said Caraboolad. "We wish we would've gotten the chance to teach him how to do things the right way."

On May 1, Winslow, Campana and a few friends rode their bikes to Canton to watch the Starboyz perform live at Hardings Park Cycle.

After the show, Winslow and friends went inside to shop for motorcycle paraphernalia. Working security was Eric Stanbro, an off-duty Canton-area policeman who always works the show - even though he has a general disdain for the Starboyz, who wear "Cops Lie" T-shirts and other anti-police messages.

"Some guy said, 'Grab a paper and pen, Kellen Winslow's in here,' " said Stanbro. "I went over and looked and it was him. He spent about an hour in there shopping and looking at things. He signed about half a dozen autographs and took some pictures with fans."

When Winslow and friends left, they turned onto Ohio 62 and some popped wheelies. Stanbro said Winslow, who was last, was one of them.

"He popped up his front wheel and just gunned it," said Stanbro. "He was going about 40-50 mph and held it about 100 feet. He was just flying. A bunch of people were watching him and I think he was showing off."

Stanbro said he's positive it was Winslow because he was wearing a bright red Budweiser jacket, the same one that appeared later that night on the security video at Corporate College in Westlake.

"All of the other guys were wearing leather and looked like much more experienced riders," said Stanbro.

But one of the other riders, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said it's doubtful that the inexperienced Winslow could perform such a difficult wheelie.

"He was in back of us, but I don't think Kellen is able to do that yet," he said. "He was taking it slow and being responsible on the bike. He enjoyed the ride down there and we were watching out for him."

When the riders got home, they split up for a while, but agreed to meet again later that evening at Corporate College because one of the riders' friends wanted a picture with Winslow. Winslow and Campana brought their bikes. They took the picture, and then Campana and Winslow started riding around the lot.

According to interviews, they were practicing stunts and tricks while the other two watched. Then came the accident. Campana was off in one corner of the parking lot and Winslow was in the other. The two others were half-watching, half-talking to each other.

Suddenly, Campana wheeled around only to see Winslow fly over his handlebars and land in the shrubbery. The three men rushed to Winslow's side and found him unconscious. According to sources, the friends didn't know if he was dead or alive. One of them grabbed his hand and began saying, "Kellen, Kellen, Kellen."

Winslow regained consciousness, but was in extreme pain and they didn't move him. They called 911. Winslow was transported by ambulance to Fairview Hospital and then taken the next day to the Cleveland Clinic, where he remains with potentially serious injuries to his right knee and shoulder, along with internal injuries.

The Browns said Friday they had no further update on Winslow's condition. There is concern within the organization that Winslow has multiple injuries to his right knee and leg. There is also concern Winslow injured his kneecap in addition to suffering ligament damage and a possible hairline fracture of the right femur.

The eyewitnesses gave their accounts to police but the versions conflicted. One thought Winslow was attempting a reverse wheelie or "endo" and the other thought he was trying something else. Campana told police he had no idea what Winslow was doing and wishes he could ask him. He told police it could've been a freak accident.

Caraboolad, the Starboyz president, said the accident could have been prevented.

"I was so busy performing that day that I didn't have a chance to talk to Kellen, he said. "If I had, I could've given him some advice and maybe talked him into attending one of our wheelie schools to learn the right way."

Caraboolad said one of the first things he would've told Winslow is to not practice stunts in a parking lot. "It's totally the wrong place," he said. "Even professional stunt riders have a hard time in parking lots. You need a race track a half-mile long to accelerate."

The Starboyz, who used to "raise hell on the streets of Akron and Canton" and have been arrested for performing on roadways, now have an operating agreement with Thompson Raceway Park outside Painesville. It's where they teach their increasingly popular wheelie classes.

"The sport is so dangerous that we decided to start a wheelie school so that guys wouldn't kill themselves," he said. "I've seen 30 or 40 people wreck right in front of me."

He said the Starboyz are scheduled to teach Michael Jordan and his race team how to do stunts this summer.

"We wish we could've done the same for Kellen before it was too late," he said. "He's very lucky to be alive."

[Guest BengalBacker]

From the dawg pound:


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You can use the link above to see a local Cleveland TV reporter's interview with a hospital employee. This was aired on 05.03.05.

After you open the link, click on the #3 link titled, "Hospital insider says KW2 was in visable pain, couldn't walk on his owm". 05.03.05 There is an interview with a hospital employee who has her voice disguised to perserve her anonimity.

There are 3 other videos of TV stories covering the incident...

#4 titled "Video shows Winslow riding motorcycle just seconds before the crash" It shows what is apparently KW2 riding in the parking lot captured by a security camera. It also shows the tree that was toppled over in the accident.

If you click on the "next results >>" link there are two more TV stories on KW2.

One is #5 titled, "Tatoo Gypsy says 'supidity' involved in K2 motorcycle accident" 05.04.05 It is an interview by a local biker giving his take on the danger and responsibility of riding a "crotch rocket"

#6 is titled, "Winslow's wild ride inspired by StarBoyz motor cycle stunt performers" 05.04.05 There is some old footage of these guys doing stunts on the expressway and some footage of Harding Cycles in Canton, O., (approx. 70 miles South of Cleveland), where Winslow attended a StarBoyz show before his accident.

[BengalsNYC]

This is a pretty funny spinoff of Winslow's trangressions...Not to poke fun at his injury but this is funny....www.sportsgoons.com


REPORT: KELLEN WINSLOW MISSED WONDERLIC EXAM QUESTION FORETELLING MOTORCYCLE DISASTER
Days after Kellen Winslow was seriously injured in a motorcycle crash, a review of the Wonderlic IQ exam given to the Cleveland Brown’s tight end at the 2004 NFL Draft Combine revealed that he glossed over a question that foretold his accident. Question # 13 on the test, which is used to quantify a prospect’s intelligence, read: “If a 6-foot, 4-inch, 240-pound man recklessly driving a motorcycle at 35 miles per hour without a helmet in a parking lot strikes a curb and is launched 16 feet in the air, how many millions of dollars will he piss away?” Winslow’s half-ass response, barely discernable due to his poor penmanship, read simply: “It doesn’t matter. I’m rich, bitch!”

He also peppered his answer sheet with other immature and inappropriate responses such as “pee-pee,” “doo-doo” and “Wu Tang Klan ain’t nothing to fuck with!” on his way to scoring a record low 12 on the exam, which, according to one NFL scout, qualifies as “borderline retarded.” Though fans are lamenting his misfortune, others have blamed Winslow, Jr.’s two-year string of hard luck on bad karma. “This is a guy who gave himself the nickname ‘The Chosen One’ and called himself a ‘soldier’ while young men were dying in Iraq. He was totally due,” explains Brianna Smith, Professor of Karmic Studies at West Virginia Wesleyan. Smith estimates it’s a matter of three to four months before Terrell Owens gets shot outside a nightclu

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Winslow undergoing MRI to determine damage to his knee.

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