F.Cleveland

This topic is brought to you by grandmas and the rest of the old people at McDonalds every morning by 6A. Word is they also voiced their intention to use their spit-covered thumbs to make sure his face was clean too, but typing and eating soft foods is just too hard. His fuckin shirt.... Aye Motherfuckin Carumba.

Go to youtube and watch a few of the tapes of every play he was in on for a given game. I watched Auburn and Utah right after he was picked. He's not just a "good" blocker, he's dominant. There were a number of plays he was the block that sprung a run or turned a loss into a few yards. Also, watch the routes they have him run. He runs almost exclusively crossing routes and short outlet routes. The times he heads up field, the routes are more vertical but the QB never looks in his direction unless he's running for his life, which coincidentally seems to be pretty much every time he drops back to pass and doesn't throw at his first target. His numbers aren't telling because he wasn't actually used as a WR and was pretty much not thrown to whether he was open or not.

This dude looks to me like Jason Witten if Jason Witten wasn’t asked to run routes.

I'm all for this and trade from the 3rd to the end of 2 to take Grier and I'd be happy.

This is difficult because the current thought is he could be a game changer but if the top 4 teams not only passed on him but didn't trade out of their spots, I'd question if he was worth being chosen that high in the first place. If you believe he's a game changer then yes and you just got the steal of the century. If you weren't sure to begin with, then you stay and if he falls you think hard about taking him at 11.

Show us on the doll where Mike Brown touched you.

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You apparently didn't read the post I was responding to. It said the two best, not any two. Also, you, I, and everyone else on this board has no fucking clue who they've talked to. How do you know they didn't offer both similar money and they turned it down? You don't. I don't. But God forbid anyone not think about dicks in hands, because they just don't understand that just the thought of those dicks in those hands is all you need to rage at what the internet said.

Seriously, just watch a game after the first 2 or 3 and keep your eyes on Bobby Hart. The interior of the line was reason 1, 2, and 3 as to why the run game sucked at times and probably 9 out of every 10 pressures. Unless a free agent RT can play 4 spots, then they would make no difference.

Did no one tell you that websites with articles by people who read other websites say he is terrible? Once you know that, you can just let rage do your typing.

Mosley got about 17 per. Brown got about 16 per. That's all but 10 mil of their cap space. One linebacker and one OT, even if they are the best available, don't make this team that much better. What you just described is only a good idea if your team is one or two players away. Sure, there are a ton of other ways to be terrible, but that is literally the one lesson that is on display every FA period and yet...people want shiny things so temper tantrums will be thrown.

Correct. He's also 24 and his issues are technique related.

Just watched the Bucs and Saints. Same thing. He's a little soft on bull rushes occasionally but the overwhelming majority of the time one he's centered on his guy he maintains the block and doesn't get tossed left or right. He has come a long way to being better at defending the outside speed rushers, but every tackle is gonna have issues with the best ones. One thing I have noticed is that the o-line in general was trying to pull guards and more complicated run plays against better defenses and it looked like chaos and confusion.

Anyone out there a PFF member that would know how where to find grades and stats (penalties and sacks given up) for each game and might be willing to post those for Bobby for last year? I want to watch his tape from last year and it would be helpful to match grades and the negative stats to what I'm seeing. I just watched every snap of the chiefs game and he looked okay. He had a false start and had one or two guys get past him on the edge early in the game, but by and large he was fine. He just looks like he's thinking too much and is getting used to playing against the speed of the NFL. A few times late in the game he made pretty decent plays against twists and he is really light on his feet for a big guy.

It's a one year deal for 5.4 with options for the following 2 at about 5 per and a 2 mil cap hit if they cut bait next year. It's insurance, not a direction. If he's not needed at RT because this year's draft pick is good, then they have depth and can try him at RG. If he's good enough, they have a cost controlled RG for two more years and can replace Boling and Glenn next year with a pick and a signing. If not, he is cut and no big deal.