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Worldwide Protests Over Muhammad Cartoon Drawings


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Muhammad Cartoons ?  

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  1. 1. Should Denmark ban the cartoons to stop the backlash ?

    • Yes
      3
    • No
      22
  2. 2. Should Western Governments be sensitive of the fact that Muslims ban all depictions of the "prophet" ?

    • Yes
      4
    • Fuck that , I'll draw him taking a poop on their heads
      21
  3. 3. Should the US press - print the cartoons for readers to judge ?

    • Yes
      19
    • No
      6


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[quote name='STRAYCAT' post='219521' date='Feb 17 2006, 06:59 PM']They are the most destructive and violent people I have seen. The riot over the most stupid shit. If we were like them we all would be in the streets rioting and destroying shit with all the political cartoons out in this country. :254: [/quote]

I was reading an article today's "Early Bird' with the Title " US Provides More Guns, Less Butter".

The subject was based on the a Textile Company owner in Pakistan and his complaints that Pakistan does not need more F-16's from the US but something along the lines of assistance with the businesses in the country to ease tensions. Stay with me.

He was driving during the interview and he had to detour, [u]there were a couple teen youth's burning tires in the middle of the street of their own neighborhood in protest over the cartoons[/u]. The Textile Company Owner sarcastically remarked, "Yeah, that's going to show them".

My point, here is a rational moderate, but he and others like him are in the minority and fear raising their voices.

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[quote name='STRAYCAT' post='219529' date='Feb 17 2006, 07:33 PM']I just think they are so intense with their religion they go overboard with their reactions. Their ass's are so tight over it you couldn't drive a 10penny nail up it. :lol: [/quote]

That's how Muhammad wanted it.

A couple weeks ago I posted information about Muhammad being a terrorist. He had people killed.

[color="#660000"](Newsbreak: Just heard from Shep Smith the Clerics Fataw is offering $1 Million and a new car to anyone that kills the Danish cartoonist).[/color]

Back to where I was, I was reading another "Early Bird" article and this Egyptian Cleric , I believe :unsure:

was explaining the so-called [u]humility[/u] that Muhammad displayed <_<

the story as he puts it was of a young woman in a village that threw garbage/stones etc at him ...., but
Muhammad was humble at the rejection.

According to muslim scholar/historian, she did throw something at him: [b]insults[/b], she basically was

calling him out as a fraud; Muhammid had her killed. [u]I can provide the whole story if need so[/u], but as

you can see the story has seemed to be twisted <_<

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I'm beginning to feel the hypocrisy here, as Ben's post above clearly illustrates. There is NO law or whatever in the Quran that says Mohammed cannot be depicted. I don't remember the exact passage off the top of my head, but it is the mordern Islam INTERPRETATION of the text that is being taught.
I'm beginning to think we should just let them riot, kill, pillage and whatever each other and just get our Westernized selves and way of thinking out of there. It is ridiculous what many of these people are doing.
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[quote name='STRAYCAT' post='219540' date='Feb 17 2006, 08:29 PM']I would love our country to belly up to the bar,be less dependant on those ass wipes oil. We start drilling here,put people to work,build refineries..more jobs and then let those fucks over there sit in the sand and watch their oil just soak in the ground. <_< [/quote]

Stray,

Rember the Republican Congressman that was pissed off last month when he didn't get the support for drilling in Alaska?

Here is a Conservationist argument:

[url="http://www.solcomhouse.com/anwr.htm"]http://www.solcomhouse.com/anwr.htm[/url]

[url="http://www.arcticwildlife.org/oil10myths.htm"]http://www.arcticwildlife.org/oil10myths.htm[/url]

and Pro:

[url="http://www.anwr.org/archives/top_ten_reasons_to_open_the_coastal_plain.php"]http://www.anwr.org/archives/top_ten_reaso...astal_plain.php[/url]

Info only:

[url="http://www.agiweb.org/legis105/anwr.html"]http://www.agiweb.org/legis105/anwr.html[/url]

What I was told, ANWR is the size of South Carolina, however drilling would be restricted to an area the size of Central Park.

Is it worth it, I don't know :unsure:

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[quote name='Lawman' post='219546' date='Feb 17 2006, 08:59 PM'][quote name='STRAYCAT' post='219540' date='Feb 17 2006, 08:29 PM']
I would love our country to belly up to the bar,be less dependant on those ass wipes oil. We start drilling here,put people to work,build refineries..more jobs and then let those fucks over there sit in the sand and watch their oil just soak in the ground. <_< [/quote]

Stray,

Rember the Republican Congressman that was pissed off last month when he didn't get the support for drilling in Alaska?

Here is a Conservationist argument:

[url="http://www.solcomhouse.com/anwr.htm"]http://www.solcomhouse.com/anwr.htm[/url]

[url="http://www.arcticwildlife.org/oil10myths.htm"]http://www.arcticwildlife.org/oil10myths.htm[/url]

and Pro:

[url="http://www.anwr.org/archives/top_ten_reasons_to_open_the_coastal_plain.php"]http://www.anwr.org/archives/top_ten_reaso...astal_plain.php[/url]

Info only:

[url="http://www.agiweb.org/legis105/anwr.html"]http://www.agiweb.org/legis105/anwr.html[/url]

What I was told, ANWR is the size of South Carolina, however drilling would be restricted to an area the size of Central Park.

Is it worth it, I don't know :unsure:
[/quote]
We just need to stop suckling on their tit in laymans terms. Once we do that they can have a free for all and if they get testy with a nuke then we step in. [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//23.gif[/img]

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[quote name='STRAYCAT' post='219549' date='Feb 17 2006, 09:04 PM'][quote name='Lawman' post='219546' date='Feb 17 2006, 08:59 PM']
[quote name='STRAYCAT' post='219540' date='Feb 17 2006, 08:29 PM']
I would love our country to belly up to the bar,be less dependant on those ass wipes oil. We start drilling here,put people to work,build refineries..more jobs and then let those fucks over there sit in the sand and watch their oil just soak in the ground. <_< [/quote]

Stray,

Rember the Republican Congressman that was pissed off last month when he didn't get the support for drilling in Alaska?

Here is a Conservationist argument:

[url="http://www.solcomhouse.com/anwr.htm"]http://www.solcomhouse.com/anwr.htm[/url]

[url="http://www.arcticwildlife.org/oil10myths.htm"]http://www.arcticwildlife.org/oil10myths.htm[/url]

and Pro:

[url="http://www.anwr.org/archives/top_ten_reasons_to_open_the_coastal_plain.php"]http://www.anwr.org/archives/top_ten_reaso...astal_plain.php[/url]

Info only:

[url="http://www.agiweb.org/legis105/anwr.html"]http://www.agiweb.org/legis105/anwr.html[/url]

What I was told, ANWR is the size of South Carolina, however drilling would be restricted to an area the size of Central Park.

Is it worth it, I don't know :unsure:
[/quote]
We just need to stop suckling on their tit in laymans terms. Once we do that they can have a free for all and if they get testy with a nuke then we step in. [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//23.gif[/img]
[/quote]

:blink: You've been hangin with Badass :D

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[quote name='Bunghole' post='219534' date='Feb 17 2006, 08:08 PM']I'm beginning to feel the hypocrisy here, as Ben's post above clearly illustrates. There is NO law or whatever in the Quran that says Mohammed cannot be depicted. I don't remember the exact passage off the top of my head, but it is the mordern Islam INTERPRETATION of the text that is being taught.
I'm beginning to think we should just let them riot, kill, pillage and whatever each other and just get our Westernized selves and way of thinking out of there. It is ridiculous what many of these people are doing.[/quote]


[img]http://michellemalkin.com/archives/images/scotusmuhammad003.jpg[/img]

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^^^

all at the supreme court...

if they are simply doing this b/c we dipicted him in general, then i hope they don't see this post..... or the monuments DIPICTING MOHAMMED at the supreme court :blink:

this is all orchastrated, i'm telling ya....

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[quote name='Lawman' post='219553' date='Feb 17 2006, 09:20 PM'][quote name='STRAYCAT' post='219549' date='Feb 17 2006, 09:04 PM']
[quote name='Lawman' post='219546' date='Feb 17 2006, 08:59 PM']
[quote name='STRAYCAT' post='219540' date='Feb 17 2006, 08:29 PM']
I would love our country to belly up to the bar,be less dependant on those ass wipes oil. We start drilling here,put people to work,build refineries..more jobs and then let those fucks over there sit in the sand and watch their oil just soak in the ground. <_< [/quote]

Stray,

Rember the Republican Congressman that was pissed off last month when he didn't get the support for drilling in Alaska?

Here is a Conservationist argument:

[url="http://www.solcomhouse.com/anwr.htm"]http://www.solcomhouse.com/anwr.htm[/url]

[url="http://www.arcticwildlife.org/oil10myths.htm"]http://www.arcticwildlife.org/oil10myths.htm[/url]

and Pro:

[url="http://www.anwr.org/archives/top_ten_reasons_to_open_the_coastal_plain.php"]http://www.anwr.org/archives/top_ten_reaso...astal_plain.php[/url]

Info only:

[url="http://www.agiweb.org/legis105/anwr.html"]http://www.agiweb.org/legis105/anwr.html[/url]

What I was told, ANWR is the size of South Carolina, however drilling would be restricted to an area the size of Central Park.

Is it worth it, I don't know :unsure:
[/quote]
We just need to stop suckling on their tit in laymans terms. Once we do that they can have a free for all and if they get testy with a nuke then we step in. [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//23.gif[/img]
[/quote]

:blink: You've been hangin with Badass :D
[/quote]
Nope I don't hang with him. I don't run with ex child stars [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//24.gif[/img]

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[color="#FF6600"][b]FIRST FREEDOM FRIES ..... NOW .....[/b][/color]


[size=4][u][quote]Iran Renames Danish Pastries
By ALI AKBAR DAREINI
AP[/u][/size]


TEHRAN, Iran (AP) - Iranians love Danish pastries, but when they look for the flaky dessert at the bakery they now have to ask for "Roses of the Prophet Muhammad."


Bakeries across the capital were covering up their ads for Danish pastries Thursday after the confectioners' union ordered the name change in retaliation for caricatures of the Muslim prophet published in a Danish newspaper.


"Given the insults by Danish newspapers against the prophet, as of now the name of Danish pastries will give way to 'Rose of Muhammad' pastries," the union said in its order.


"This is a punishment for those who started misusing freedom of expression to insult the sanctities of Islam," said Ahmad Mahmoudi, a cake shop owner in northern Tehran.


One of Tehran's most popular bakeries, "Danish Pastries," covered up the word "Danish" on its sign with a black banner emblazoned "Oh Hussein," a reference to a martyred saint of Shiite Islam. The banner is a traditional sign of mourning.


The shop owner declined to comment Thursday.


In Zartosht Street in central Tehran, cake shop owner Mahdi Pedari didn't cover up the word "Danish pastries" on his menu, but put the new name next to it.


"I did so just to inform my customers that Rose of Muhammad is the new name for Danish pastries," he said.


Some customers took immediately to the new name. But others were less enthusiastic about the protest.


"I just want the sweet pastries. I have nothing to do with the name," homemaker Zohreh Masoumi told the sales clerk taking her order.


The drawings, which have offended many Muslims, were published in a Danish newspaper in September and then reprinted in European and American newspapers. One depicted the prophet with a turban shaped like a bomb with a burning fuse.


Islam widely holds that representations of Muhammad are banned for fear they could lead to idolatry. At least 19 people have been killed in protests over the past several weeks, most of them in Afghanistan and Pakistan.


Consumer boycotts of Danish goods, from Havarti cheese to Lego, are costing Denmark's companies millions in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and other Muslim countries.


Iranians love sweets, often bringing candies and pastries to parties. So-called "Danish pastries" are extremely popular.


The Danish's distinctive dough was first created in the 17th century by a French apprentice baker who forgot to add butter to the flour and tried to hide his mistake by folding lumps of it into the dough. It became known as "a thousand leaves" in France.


It was copied in Italy - where it is known as "folded pastry" - and Italian bakers took it to Austria. It journeyed from there to Denmark when Danish bakers went on strike and replacements imported from Austria brought along what became known in Denmark as "Viennese Bread."


The pastry became the Danish to the rest of the world, probably, according to the Danish bakers' union, because Danish bakers emigrated to so many countries.


In Iran, the pastries are domestically baked, not imported. Iran has cut all commercial ties with Denmark in retaliation for the prophet cartoons.


Iran's Danish renaming wasn't the first time a food name has become a symbol of protest. A Republican congressman from North Carolina helped lead an effort to make sure Capitol Hill cafeterias changed their menus to advertise "freedom fries" instead of french fries after France opposed the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq.[/quote]

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[quote name='STRAYCAT' post='219568' date='Feb 17 2006, 10:35 PM'][quote name='Lawman' post='219553' date='Feb 17 2006, 09:20 PM']
[quote name='STRAYCAT' post='219549' date='Feb 17 2006, 09:04 PM']
[quote name='Lawman' post='219546' date='Feb 17 2006, 08:59 PM']
[quote name='STRAYCAT' post='219540' date='Feb 17 2006, 08:29 PM']
I would love our country to belly up to the bar,be less dependant on those ass wipes oil. We start drilling here,put people to work,build refineries..more jobs and then let those fucks over there sit in the sand and watch their oil just soak in the ground. <_< [/quote]

Stray,

Rember the Republican Congressman that was pissed off last month when he didn't get the support for drilling in Alaska?

Here is a Conservationist argument:

[url="http://www.solcomhouse.com/anwr.htm"]http://www.solcomhouse.com/anwr.htm[/url]

[url="http://www.arcticwildlife.org/oil10myths.htm"]http://www.arcticwildlife.org/oil10myths.htm[/url]

and Pro:

[url="http://www.anwr.org/archives/top_ten_reasons_to_open_the_coastal_plain.php"]http://www.anwr.org/archives/top_ten_reaso...astal_plain.php[/url]

Info only:

[url="http://www.agiweb.org/legis105/anwr.html"]http://www.agiweb.org/legis105/anwr.html[/url]

What I was told, ANWR is the size of South Carolina, however drilling would be restricted to an area the size of Central Park.

Is it worth it, I don't know :unsure:
[/quote]
We just need to stop suckling on their tit in laymans terms. Once we do that they can have a free for all and if they get testy with a nuke then we step in. [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//23.gif[/img]
[/quote]

:blink: You've been hangin with Badass :D
[/quote]
Nope I don't hang with him. I don't run with ex child stars [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//24.gif[/img]
[/quote]
:lmao:

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[quote name='STRAYCAT' post='219568' date='Feb 17 2006, 10:35 PM'][quote name='Lawman' post='219553' date='Feb 17 2006, 09:20 PM']
[quote name='STRAYCAT' post='219549' date='Feb 17 2006, 09:04 PM']
[quote name='Lawman' post='219546' date='Feb 17 2006, 08:59 PM']
[quote name='STRAYCAT' post='219540' date='Feb 17 2006, 08:29 PM']
I would love our country to belly up to the bar,be less dependant on those ass wipes oil. We start drilling here,put people to work,build refineries..more jobs and then let those fucks over there sit in the sand and watch their oil just soak in the ground. <_< [/quote]

Stray,

Rember the Republican Congressman that was pissed off last month when he didn't get the support for drilling in Alaska?

Here is a Conservationist argument:

[url="http://www.solcomhouse.com/anwr.htm"]http://www.solcomhouse.com/anwr.htm[/url]

[url="http://www.arcticwildlife.org/oil10myths.htm"]http://www.arcticwildlife.org/oil10myths.htm[/url]

and Pro:

[url="http://www.anwr.org/archives/top_ten_reasons_to_open_the_coastal_plain.php"]http://www.anwr.org/archives/top_ten_reaso...astal_plain.php[/url]

Info only:

[url="http://www.agiweb.org/legis105/anwr.html"]http://www.agiweb.org/legis105/anwr.html[/url]

What I was told, ANWR is the size of South Carolina, however drilling would be restricted to an area the size of Central Park.

Is it worth it, I don't know :unsure:
[/quote]
We just need to stop suckling on their tit in laymans terms. Once we do that they can have a free for all and if they get testy with a nuke then we step in. [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//23.gif[/img]
[/quote]

:blink: You've been hangin with Badass :D
[/quote]
Nope I don't hang with him. I don't run with ex child stars [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//24.gif[/img]
[/quote]

makin funnies about me behind my back, eh?

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[size=3][u][quote]New Cartoon Showing Muhammad Prompts the Closing of a Russian Paper
By STEVEN LEE MYERS
February 18, 2006[/u][/size]


MOSCOW, Feb. 17 — In a controversy with echoes of the Islamic anger over Danish cartoons depicting the Prophet Muhammad, [b]the authorities in a central Russian city on Friday ordered the closing of a newspaper that published a cartoon showing Muhammad, along with Jesus, Moses and Buddha.[/b] [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/23.gif[/img]

The cartoon, published Feb. 9 in the official city newspaper in Volgograd, prompted some criticism and a federal criminal investigation, but no public outrage. That may be, in large part, because it depicted the figures respectfully, renouncing violence, despite the fact that Islamic teachings forbid any depiction of Muhammad.

"Well, we did not teach them that," Moses says in a caption as the four watch a television set showing two groups confronting each other with banners and clubs and hurling stones. The cartoon accompanied an article on an agreement signed by regional political parties and organizations to combat nationalism, xenophobia and religious conflicts.

Volgograd's first deputy mayor, Andrei O. Doronin, announced the closing of the newspaper, Gorodskiye Vesti, or City News, "in order not to inflame ethnic hostilities," according to the official Russian Information Agency. Tatyana A. Kaminskaya, the paper's editor, said in a telephone interview that no one had called the newspaper to complain about the cartoon in the eight days since its publication. She had not, she added, considered the furor over the Danish cartoons when she decided to commission the cartoon. "We had an absolutely different goal when publishing this: to show the unifying force of all religions, which are based on kindness," she said.

The closing came in the wake of international protests over the Danish cartoons, which reverberated in Russia, a country with an estimated 20 million Muslims. Political and religious leaders here joined in denouncing the Danish cartoons.

Last week, Chechnya's vice premier, Ramzan Kadyrov, suspended the work of the Danish Refugee Council in the republic, while President Vladimir V. Putin said, "One has to think a hundred times before publishing something, doing something or drawing something." On Friday, the Prosecutor General's Office announced that it had opened a criminal case against the editor of a newspaper in Vologda, north of Moscow, which had reprinted the Danish cartoons on Wednesday.

Most of the criticism against the cartoon in Volgograd came not from Muslim or other religious leaders, but rather from the local branch of United Russia, the pro-Putin political party that dominates governments across the country. Those complaints prompted Russia's deputy prosecutor general, Nikolai I. Shepel, to announce an inquiry on Wednesday. Officials in Volgograd, a city of one million people on the Volga River, initially defended the newspaper, but another deputy mayor, Konstantin E. Kalachyov, said the decision to close the newspaper was an effort to contain a scandal that was "fanned up artificially" in the wake of the fury over the Danish cartoons.

"You can say that the journalists were taught a lesson in political correctness," he said in a telephone interview.

Like most city newspapers in Russia, Gorodskiye Vesti is owned by a city enterprise, but functions as the city's main newspaper.

Russian journalists denounced Friday's decision as censorship. "It is a downright disgrace," Igor Yakovenko of the Russian Union of Journalists told the Interfax news agency. "Russia is the only country that has reacted to the caricature scandal in such a manner." While Russia may be the first country to shut a newspaper for publishing a cartoon of Muhammad, a French newspaper editor was fired for reprinting the Danish cartoons, while editors in Algeria, Jordan and Yemen were arrested for doing the same. Russian religious leaders, including representatives of the Russian Orthodox Church and the chairman of the Islam Rights Center, told Interfax that the closing was excessively strict. The Public Chamber, an advisory body to the Kremlin, also called for the closure to be reconsidered.


[u][b]Libyans Set Fire to Italian Consulate[/b][/u]

TRIPOLI, Libya, Feb. 17 (AP) — Libyans protesting the Prophet Muhammad cartoons set fire to the Italian Consulate in Benghazi on Friday and clashed with the police in turmoil that left at least nine people dead, an Italian diplomat said.

An Italian consular official, Antonio Simoes-Concalves, said nine protesters had been killed and several more wounded as police officers clashed with a crowd of more than 1,000 people. Libyan officials said 11 were dead or wounded. No Italians inside the compound were injured, the Italian Foreign Ministry said.

Italy's ambassador to Libya in Tripoli met late on Friday with the Libyan interior minister "who expressed the condemnation of his government for the acts of violence occurring in Benghazi," the Italian Foreign Ministry said in a statement.[/quote]


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[color="#FF0000"][b]and the protests move to America .....[/b][/color]



[size=3][u][quote][img]http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2006/02/18/nyregion/18prot184.jpg[/img]
More Than 1,000 Protest Cartoon Depiction of Prophet
By KAREEM FAHIM
February 18, 2006[/u][/size]

Muslims gathered Friday near the Danish Consulate in New York and protested cartoons originally published in Denmark that some say are sacrilegious and insensitive to Islam.

The rally, billed by the organizers as a stand against the vilification of Muslims, was considerably larger than another one this month, drawing South Asian, Arab, African-American and other Muslims to a plaza a block from the United Nations as the sun peeked out after a morning of rain.

In a program that lasted several hours, the speakers talked about the responsibility that comes with free speech and their reverence for the prophet to a peaceful crowd that included families with small children and student groups.

"We were tired of demonization," said Dr. Shaikh Ubaid, a spokesman for the Muslim Leadership Council, which organized the rally. "There is a rise of Islamophobia in Europe. More and more Americans think negatively about Islam." The depiction of the prophet as a terrorist mirrored insults that in the past were heaped on other immigrant populations here, including blacks, Jews and Native Americans, he said.

Today, he added, the insults against those groups are widely considered to be taboo.

Many protesters said the cartoons, first published in a newspaper in Denmark, had stirred up an old fear, that Muslims in the West remain strangers to their neighbors, even generations after arriving here.

But a number of attendees said they mainly viewed the cartoons as an indicator of the tensions facing the surging Muslim population in Europe, adding that American papers had largely shied away from publishing them.

In addition to being offensive, Muslims say, the cartoons are improper because they depict the Prophet Muhammad. One of the 12 cartoons printed by the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten shows Muhammad wearing a turban in the shape of a bomb.

The cartoons have set off protests — including violent ones in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Libya, where several people were reported to have died yesterday — and a boycott of Danish goods. The protest yesterday was a stark contrast to others across the globe, which in some cases have culminated in clashes with the authorities.

A few police officers peered through binoculars down on the gathering, at Dag Hammarskjold Plaza, while officers from the Police Department's community affairs unit mingled with protesters on the street.

After an opening round of speeches, Imam Siraj Wahhaj of Masjid At-Taqwa in Brooklyn delivered a sermon, speaking English peppered with lines in Arabic. The sight of so many people sitting on prayer mats, plastic sheets and cardboard boxes prompted him to remark that it had taken a controversy to bring so many Muslims together for a Friday prayer.

Of the cartoons, he said: "These are the boundaries of Allah. Don't go past them."

Magdy Eleish, a 56-year-old Queens resident, said he went to the protest because he "wanted to do something," adding that he hoped that the rally would inspire non-Muslims to read about the prophet. "Our feelings are hurt," he said. "If someone insults your father, don't you hurt?"

Wael Mousfar, president of the Arab Muslim American Federation, said the way to prevent future conflicts is by educating non-Muslims about the faith.

"Ignorance is the enemy," he said. The gathering had its provocateurs. A few men from a group called the Islamic Thinkers Society roamed around the plaza carrying signs, including one with photographs of President Bush and Flemming Rose, the culture editor of the Danish paper, with targets placed on their foreheads. Some of them gathered near Mr. Wahhaj as he spoke, prompting members of his private security detail to tell the men to lower their signs.

Toward the end of the program, four representatives of the Muslim groups traveled across the street to speak with the Danish consul general, Torben Gettermann, presenting him with a letter, books about Muhammad and Islamic culture and a Koran. "It was very fruitful," said Dr. Ubaid of the Muslim Leadership Council. "He is interested in building bridges."[/quote]


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[size=4]Muslims Assault U.S. Embassy in Indonesia [/size]
By ALI KOTARUMALOS
Associated Press[/u][/size]


JAKARTA, Indonesia - Hundreds of Muslims protesting caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad tried to storm the U.S. Embassy on Sunday, smashing the windows of a guard post but failing to push through the gates. Several people were injured.

Pakistani security forces, meanwhile, sealed off the capital of Islamabad to block a planned mass demonstration and fired tear gas and gunshots to chase off protesters. In Turkey, tens of thousands gathered in Istanbul chanting slogans against Denmark, Israel and the United States.

Protests over the cartoons, which first appeared in a Danish newspaper in September and have been republished in other European publications and elsewhere, have swept across the Muslim world, growing into mass outlets for rage against the West in general, and Israel and the United States in particular.

Christians also have become targets. Pakistani Muslims protesting in the southern city of Sukkur ransacked and burned a church Sunday after hearing accusations that a Christian man had burned pages of the Quran, Islam's holy book.

That incident came a day after Muslims protesting in the Nigerian city of Maiduguri attacked Christians and burned 15 churches in a three-hour rampage that killed at least 15 people. Some 30 other people have died during protests over the cartoons that erupted about three weeks ago.

In Jakarta, about 400 people marched to the heavily fortified U.S. mission in the center of the city, behind a banner reading "We are ready to attack the enemies of the Prophet."

Protesters throwing stones and brandishing wooden staves tried to break through the gates. They set fire to U.S. flags and a poster of President Bush and smashed the windows of a guard outpost before dispersing after a few minutes.

The U.S. Embassy called the attacks deplorable, describing them as acts of "thuggery."

A protest organizer said the West, and particularly the United States, is attacking Islam.

"They want to destroy Islam through the issue of terrorism ... and all those things are engineered by the United States," said Maksuni, who only uses one name.

"We are fighting America fiercely this time," he said. "And we also are fighting Denmark."

In Pakistan, where protests last week left five people dead, police put up roadblocks around Islamabad to keep people from entering the capital for a planned mass protest called by a coalition of six hard-line Islamic parties, the Mutahida Majlis-e-Amal — United Action Forum.

Authorities also detained several lawmakers and Islamic leaders during raids in three cities and announced they would arrest anyone joining a gathering of more than five people to prevent the demonstration.

Opposition leader Maulana Fazlur Rahman, a senior figure in the Islamic coalition, was eventually given permission to lead a small rally through a square in the city center. The protesters chanted "God is great!" and "Any friend of America is a traitor."

But when about 100 other protesters tried to reach the square, officers fired tear gas and at least one gunshot to chase them off. More gunshots were heard later in the city, but it wasn't clear who fired them. At least two policemen were injured, one bleeding from the head. Several demonstrators also were hurt.

A crowd of 700 people, some throwing stones at police, tried to march toward Islamabad's heavily guarded diplomatic enclave about 1.3 miles from the square but with blocked by troops in armored personnel carriers.

Police also blocked about 1,500 protesters from reaching Islamabad from the city of Peshawar by putting shipping containers and sandbags on a bridge along a highway leading to the capital, said Mohammed Iqbal, a key member of the religious alliance.

Elsewhere in Pakistan, about 600 people staged a protest in Chaman, a town near the Afghan border, burning Danish flags and an effigy of the Danish prime minister.

Such protests prompted Denmark on Sunday to temporarily recall its ambassador to Pakistan, Bent Wigotski, because it was impossible for him "to perform his job duties during the present circumstances," the Danish Foreign Ministry said in a statement.[/quote]


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[quote]Magdy Eleish, a 56-year-old Queens resident, said he went to the protest because he "wanted to do something," adding that he hoped that the rally would inspire non-Muslims to read about the prophet. "Our feelings are hurt," he said. "If someone insults your father, don't you hurt?"[/quote]

[b]A "terrorist" is defined as "one who engages in acts of terrorism". "Terrorism" is defined as "the unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.[/b]

When Muhammad started out preaching his religion of Islam he was not violent. He was persecuted for preaching his religious ideas - Islam - and denigrating the pagan religions of the Meccans. Some of Muhammad's followers were tortured. Things were so bad for him and his few followers that he sent many of them to Abyssinia [Ethiopia] for refuge. Eventually, he and his followers moved north to a city called Yathrib [Medina], where some members of two Arab tribes wanted Muhammad to be their prophet.

Just prior to Muhammad's leaving for Medina, he received a "revelation" allowing him to fight the Meccans. He knew that in Medina, he had a group of armed men who would support him. Furthermore, in Medina, would be more distant from the Meccans and their attempts to oppress or kill him. [u]The following is from "The Life of Muhammad", page 212, by A. Guillaume, which is a rendering of Ibn Ishaq's "Sirat Rasulallah", a biography of Muhammad written by an early Muslim scholar [1].[/u]

The apostle had not been given permission to fight or allowed to shed blood before the second Aqaba [a place where a pledge was made between Muhammad and his followers from Medina]. He had simply been ordered to call men to God and to endure insult and forgive the ignorant. The Quraysh [a leading group of Meccans] had persecuted his followers, seducing some from their religion and exiling others from their country. They had to choose whether to give up their religion, be maltreated at home, or to flee the country, some to Abyssinia, others to Medina.

When Quraysh became insolent towards God and rejected His gracious purpose, accused His prophet of lying, and ill treated and exiled those who served Him and proclaimed His unity, believed in His prophet and held fast to His religion, He gave permission to His apostle to fight and to protect himself against those who wronged them and treated them badly......[a]

The meaning is "I have allowed them to fight only because they have been unjustly treated while their sole offense against men has been that they worship God. When they are in the ascendant they will establish prayer, pay the poor-tax, enjoin kindness, and forbid iniquity, i.e., the prophet and his companions all of them." Then God sent down to him: [b]"Fight them so that there be no more seduction," [b] i.e. until no believer is seduced from his religion. "And the religion is God's,", i.e. Until God alone is worshipped."[/b]

[color="#000066"]If Allah is the true God of all, why are a chosen few selected to kill others in his name[/color] [b]Why don't he just crush the infidels with his God-like thumb[/b]

[b]undefinedin Mecca, where Muhammad was weak, he attacked no one. He only preached his religion and insulted the Meccan's religions. But it was just prior to his leaving for Medina, where he had a limited amount of armed men to support him, that he received this "revelation" and began to use violence to further his desires. Islamic history shows that as Muslims grew in power their forms of violence changed from criminal terrorism to outright warfare. [/b]

[b]From Guillaume, op cit, page 369:[/b]

[color="#000066"]"The apostle said, "Kill any Jew who falls into your power." Thereupon Muhayyisa b. Masud leapt upon Ibn Sunayna, a Jewish merchant with whom they had social and business relations, and killed him. Huwayyisa was not a Muslim at the time though he was the elder brother. When Muhayyisa killed him Huwayyisa began to beat him, saying, 'You enemy of God, did you kill him when much of the fat on your belly comes from his wealth?' Muhayyisa answered, 'Had the one who ordered me to kill him ordered me to kill you I would have cut your head off.'"[/color]

[color="#660000"]The first terrorist incident involves Muhammad's command to his followers to "kill any Jew who comes under your power".[/color]

[b]This story is also supported in the Sunan of Abu Dawud, Book 13, Number 2996[/b]

[color="#000066"]We know that there are good and bad in all religions, but this case is different. This event reflects upon the man who started Islam: Islam is built upon Muhammad's words and deeds.[/color]
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