SEMPER FI FALLUJAH

[Jamie_B]

[quote]I wouldn`t coddle or pat a Steeler troll that comes here and bashes the
Bengals. In this case, on this topic...you`re no different.[/quote]


That's low old... remember

[img]http://www.villagevoice.com/blogs/bushbeat/archive/images/osama-strat1.jpg[/img] > [img]http://media3.steelers.com/MediaContent/41/53/04_MC_web_cowher1[1]_40297.jpg[/img]

[Guest Bengal_Smoov]

Oldschooler=[img]http://leahy.senate.gov/MFTF/MFTFimages/2004/04/28/chickenhawk.JPG[/img]

Now he will probably respond by calling me Smoove or a smiley face with a middle finger, he's so gangsta

[Guest bengalrick]

does this picture come to mind, for anyone else, while reading this thread:

[img]http://bojack.org/images/wreck3.jpg[/img]

i can't stop reading this stuff.... but you guys are getting out of hand....

[Jamie_B]

[quote name='bengalrick' post='221977' date='Feb 23 2006, 03:10 PM']does this picture come to mind, for anyone else, while reading this thread:

[img]http://bojack.org/images/wreck3.jpg[/img]

i can't stop reading this stuff.... but you guys are getting out of hand....[/quote]


I think that our outrage of the end of season events has effected not only how we communicate to steeler scum, but to each other as well.

It wasnt this heated last offseason thats for sure.

[Guest ONYX]

[quote name='Jamie_B' post='221979' date='Feb 23 2006, 04:13 PM'][quote name='bengalrick' post='221977' date='Feb 23 2006, 03:10 PM']
does this picture come to mind, for anyone else, while reading this thread:

[img]http://bojack.org/images/wreck3.jpg[/img]

i can't stop reading this stuff.... but you guys are getting out of hand....[/quote]


I think that our outrage of the end of season events has effected not only how we communicate to steeler scum, but to each other as well.

It wasnt this heated last offseason thats for sure.
[/quote]

well, I think most of the heat and venom was always going BJ's way.

I think since then, some new guys like myself have come along and have taken some sheep fire.

I like it, feels good.

[Guest BlackJesus]

[size=3][center][i]"You're not to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who does it or says it." [/i] [/size]
[size=2][b]--- Malcolm X[/b][/size]

[img]http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqboy2_10apr2003.jpg[/img][/center]

[Guest oldschooler]

Look I`ve said a million times in the past few years,
and NO ONE can dispute that Saddam Hussein was
responsible for this war.

I think it is pathetic that we finally make the motherfucker
abide by the terms of his surrender and now WE are the bad guy.


BZ can say whatever the fuck he wants. So can BJ.
And I should be able to say what I want back.
That`s how a debate and forum works isn`t it ?


I`m not a "chickenhawk". I`m just an American that thought
Saddam should have been taken out in 1991. Instead we
let him fester like a boil on our ass for over a decade.

Now that "boil" has turned into a bigger mess than it ever
should have been.

He should have been taken out years ago. We "allowed" him
to remain in power. He still would be in power if he would have
abided by the terms of his surrender. He would still be in power
if he would have heeded the ulitmatum, instead of taking it as
ANOTHER empty threat.


Let`s start blaming the person that invaded Kuwait, gassed the Kurds,
killed and tortured his own people, thumbed his nose at the terms of
his surrender for over a decade, and wasn`t about to change, instead
of throwing all the blame on Bush for a war that Saddam could have
avoided.



The fact is I love my Country. I`m thankful that I was born
in the Greatest Country in the World. I know that we are
a Country that does more for the good of the World than
almost every other Country COMBINED.

And I won`t stand by and let a bunch of people bash it
just because they have so much hatred for one political
Party or Person.

It`s really that simple...

[Guest BlackJesus]

[center][size=3][quote]Instead we
let him fester like a boil on our ass for over a decade.[/quote][/size]

[size=3][img]http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/entertainers/pundits/rush-limbaugh/limbaugh.jpg[/img]
[i]"Did someone say Ass Boil .... because mine during Vietnam was at least this big"[/i][/size][/center]

[Guest oldschooler]

[quote name='BlackJesus' post='221988' date='Feb 23 2006, 02:25 PM'][size=3][center][i]"You're not to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who does it or says it." [/i] [/size]
[size=2][b]--- Malcolm X[/b][/size]

[img]http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqboy2_10apr2003.jpg[/img][/center][/quote]



How do you know that that girl wasn`t injured by a Insurgent or
a Terrorist`s IED ?


The U.S. Military isn`t there killing or wounding innocent people.
They`re there to keep the peace and train the Iraqi Military to
so they can keep the peace.


I`m sure there are all kinds of pictures you pull up of civillians that
were killed or injured in WWll ...does that mean it wasn`t for the
betterment of the World ?

[Guest BlackJesus]

[quote]How do you know that that girl wasn`t injured by a Insurgent or
a Terrorist`s IED ?[/quote]

[b]Because all the photos I use were taken during our "Shock and Awe" where we bombed them from the air .... [/b]

[img]http://www.nbfo.net/images/No%20More%20War%20on%20Iraq.gif[/img]

[Guest oldschooler]

[quote name='BlackJesus' post='221995' date='Feb 23 2006, 02:32 PM'][quote]How do you know that that girl wasn`t injured by a Insurgent or
a Terrorist`s IED ?[/quote]

[b]Because all the photos I use were taken during our "Shock and Awe" where we bombed them from the air .... [/b]
[/quote]



OK....so like I said...you could find pictures of children and and civillians
that were injured or killed in WWll...does that mean it wasn`t for the
betterment of the World ?


I`m not saying that that little girl being injured was right or OK.
I`m saying that Saddam should be blamed for the war and
what has happened since.

[Guest BlackJesus]

[color="#3366FF"][b]I found this letter by David Wiggins that I think is relevant [/b] [size=3][/color]


[quote]By David Wiggins
Oct 11, 2002


[font="Palatino Linotype"][size=4][i]Dear Soldier of the U.S. Military:

Considering the common practice of talking about "supporting the troops" in times of hostilities, I should let you know how I feel.

With all due respect, I want you to know that if you participate in this conflict, you are not serving me, and I don't support you. Speaking for myself, I feel those who participate will be damaging my reputation as an American, and further endangering me and my children by creating hatred that will someday be returned to us -- perhaps someday soon. Your actions will not lead to a safer world, but a more dangerous world of pre-emption and unilateral decisions to commit mayhem. I don't support that.

This talk of 'supporting the troops' is just another method our government uses to manipulate and control us. I don't support the troops, but I certainly fear for the lives of the troops. I would support the troops staying home. I regret that our so-called leaders have involved the troops in such a foolish, misguided undertaking. I would support the troops disobeying orders. I feel sorry for the troops' families. I would support the troops if they realized that the best way to defend their families would be to stay alive and healthy and resist this war.

The only people the troops are possibly serving are those who agree with this act of military aggression. Perhaps you are not even serving them if they end up suffering retribution for your actions.

Oh yes, and you are serving the President, of course -- the man who avoided combat duty and deserted his National Guard unit. You are serving the man who enriched himself through crony capitalism, shady accounting practices and insider trading while running multiple corporations into bankruptcy. You will be serving the man who lost the popular vote for president, but was handed the presidency by a Supreme Court influenced by his father and through voting irregularities in a state governed by his brother. You will be serving the man who, as President, turned the budget surplus into a deficit and presided over the largest stock market decline since the great depression. You will be serving the man who unilaterally withdrew from the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty, ignored the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and rejected the International Criminal Court and Kyoto Protocol on Global Warming.

If you are involved in an invasion of Iraq, you will be faced with some difficult ethical decisions. Are the Iraqi foot soldiers really the guilty party here? Is it reasonable to expect them to refuse orders to defend themselves against an invading force (you)? Is this conflict really necessary at all? If not, why kill these people? If it is, are there other means our Commander-in-Chief and others are not exploring that might prevent you from having to kill these people and possibly civilians too, and possibly die yourself or contribute to your friend's death? I'm glad I don't have to make those decisions.

I feel for you and the difficult decisions you must make. I hope this note frees you of any sense of obligation to serve me you must feel, and helps you make a conscientious decision that you will be proud to accept complete responsibility for making. Please pass the sentiments I expressed in this letter on to your fellow soldiers.[/i][/size][/size][/font]

[i]--- David Wiggins attended West Point and York Medical College. During Operation Desert Storm he left the Army as a conscientious objector. He is currently an emergency room physician.[/i][/quote]


[url="http://www.nbfo.net/troops.htm"]http://www.nbfo.net/troops.htm[/url]

[TheBZ]

[quote name='ONYX' post='221961' date='Feb 23 2006, 02:56 PM']Anyway your disheeki is in the mail.

Fight the power bro.[/quote]

I'll take it.

Onward and Upward.

[quote name='oldschooler' post='221963' date='Feb 23 2006, 02:59 PM']No I was telling you to fuck off, go fuck yourself, eat shit...

I`m not "fighting" with anyone here. I`m stating my opinion just like YOU did.
You didn`t hold back...so why the fuck should I ?[/quote]

Ah...Good one.



[quote name='BlackJesus' post='221969' date='Feb 23 2006, 03:05 PM'][b]BZ .....

Who cares if you are an UnAmerican - Because you aren't even an American to begin with....

.....................[snip]

[color="#CC6600"][center][size=3]I support US troops staying alive while in Iraq
But I don't support them in their quest to kill others[/size][/center][/color]

and I hope that you stick around and give your perspective realizing that it is welcome by some of us[/b][/quote]

I appreciate that. Sometimes, it's a tough forum to step into...From where I"m coming from.

[quote name='Jamie_B' post='221971' date='Feb 23 2006, 03:06 PM']Chris Henry's Dealer is a Canuck as well. [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//3.gif[/img] [/quote]

I need to cut a deal with CHD to follow me up and be the Ying to my Yang. (That's right...I said 'Yang')

Besides...He's the one with the wealth of knowledge in economics. (Pun semi-intended)

[quote name='Jamie_B' post='221979' date='Feb 23 2006, 03:13 PM']I think that our outrage of the end of season events has effected not only how we communicate to steeler scum, but to each other as well. It wasnt this heated last offseason thats for sure.[/quote]

I think you're probably right.

[quote name='ONYX' post='221982' date='Feb 23 2006, 03:18 PM']well, I think most of the heat and venom was always going BJ's way.

I think since then, some new guys like myself have come along and have taken some sheep fire.

I like it, feels good.[/quote]

True...It's probably wrong to let the guy take all the heat if we feel the same way. (For the most part)

Does this mean I have to take a revolutionary as an avatar now?





BZ

[Jamie_B]

Remember while we all disagree with each other from time to time (And BJ is the Ying to my Yang in the Christian discussions, though we've had phone conversations and get along just fine.), were all on the same "Team" and this is the "Real Enemy".

[img]http://www.bestsportsphotos.com/images/VonOelhoffenKimoPortTB.jpg[/img]

Now everyone arm youselves .... VIVA LA REVOLUTION!!!!!!!!!!

[Guest oldschooler]

[quote]Hatred as an element of struggle; unbending hatred for the enemy, which pushes a human being beyond his natural limitations, making him into an effective, violent, selective, and cold-blooded killing machine.This is what our soldiers must become …"— and so on.[b]Che Guevara[/b][/quote]


How fucking quaint and ironic that BJ idolizes someone
that would say such a thing... and then bashes the US military
in the same breath...

[TheBZ]

[quote name='Jamie_B' post='222007' date='Feb 23 2006, 03:47 PM']Remember while we all disagree with each other from time to time (And BJ is the Ying to my Yang in the Christian discussions, though we've had phone conversations and get along just fine.), were all on the same "Team" and this is the "Real Enemy".[/quote]

Amen.

POVERTY >> [img]http://media3.steelers.com/MediaContent/41/53/04_MC_web_cowher1[1]_40297.jpg[/img]

BZ

[Guest BlackJesus]

[quote]Does this mean I have to take a revolutionary as an avatar now?[/quote]

[b][size=3]Yes ....[/size]

I would like to recommend Koose Muniswamy Veerappan [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veerappan"]Link[/url].... the reknown Tamil Revolutionary (recently killed)

[img]http://underthefirestar.blogspot.com/photos-04/veerappan.jpg[/img]

He is famous for hiding in the hills of India Amid dense forests for decades and killed over 120 men all by himself in the Tamil struggle for independence. He also is infamous for killing hundreds of Elephants to support his Guerrilla struggle. Plus you gotta love that Stache' [/b]

[Jamie_B]

[quote name='TheBZ' post='222012' date='Feb 23 2006, 03:56 PM'][quote name='Jamie_B' post='222007' date='Feb 23 2006, 03:47 PM']
Remember while we all disagree with each other from time to time (And BJ is the Ying to my Yang in the Christian discussions, though we've had phone conversations and get along just fine.), were all on the same "Team" and this is the "Real Enemy".[/quote]

Amen.

POVERTY >> [img]http://media3.steelers.com/MediaContent/41/53/04_MC_web_cowher1[1]_40297.jpg[/img]

BZ
[/quote]

[Guest BlackJesus]

[quote]Hatred as an element of struggle; unbending hatred for the enemy, which pushes a human being beyond his natural limitations, making him into an effective, violent, selective, and cold-blooded killing machine.This is what our soldiers must become …"— and so on.Che Guevara



How fucking quaint and ironic that BJ idolizes someone
that would say such a thing... and then bashes the US military
in the same breath...[/quote]


[b]I won't expect you to understand the historical context in which he is making this statement .... and so I'll just agree with it ..... and say yes "Hatred" can be an effective tool when you are fighting a brutal diabolical enemy who will stop at nothing to kill you, your family, and subjugate your entire nation. He was waging war against the largest Imperial machine and system the world has ever known and thus yes .... "hate" was needed to preserve their existence ....[/b] [i](for more see the Millions of people killed by the CIA and their coups and eventual puppet dictators in the 1960's and 1970's)[/i]


[b]Even the pope knew he better recognize [/b] [img]http://www.heyche.com/chemasgrandequeelpapa.jpg[/img]

[Guest BlackJesus]

[center][quote]VIVA LA REVOLUTION!!!!!!!!!![/quote]

[b]Hell Yeah JamieB .....

sing along [/b]

[url="http://www.heyche.com/"]Viva Song[/url] [/center]

[TheBZ]

[quote name='BlackJesus' post='222013' date='Feb 23 2006, 03:56 PM'][b]I would like to recommend Koose Muniswamy Veerappan [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veerappan"]Link[/url].... the reknown Tamil Revolutionary (recently killed)

[img]http://underthefirestar.blogspot.com/photos-04/veerappan.jpg[/img]

He is famous for hiding in the hills of India Amid dense forests for decades and killed over 120 men all by himself in the Tamil struggle for independence. He also is infamous for killing hundreds of Elephants to support his Guerrilla struggle. Plus you gotta love that Stache' [/b][/quote]

I like it...I once had a very enlightening discussion with a group of Tamils in Canada over 3-15 beers.

They were a tough bunch, but very outgoing and friendly...And quite philosophical about their struggle.

BZ

[Guest oldschooler]

[quote name='BlackJesus' post='222018' date='Feb 23 2006, 03:03 PM'][quote]Hatred as an element of struggle; unbending hatred for the enemy, which pushes a human being beyond his natural limitations, making him into an effective, violent, selective, and cold-blooded killing machine.This is what our soldiers must become …"— and so on.Che Guevara



How fucking quaint and ironic that BJ idolizes someone
that would say such a thing... and then bashes the US military
in the same breath...[/quote]


[b]I won't expect you to understand the historical context in which he is making this statement .... and so I'll just agree with it ..... and say yes "Hatred" can be an effective tool when you are fighting a brutal diabolical enemy who will stop at nothing to kill you, your family, and subjugate your entire nation. He was waging war against the largest Imperial machine and system the world has ever known and thus yes .... "hate" was needed to preserve their existence ....[/b] [i](for more see the Millions of people killed by the CIA and their coups and eventual puppet dictators in the 1960's and 1970's)[/i]
[/quote]






Face it you`re a hypocrite. It`s OK for soldiers to be that way in a cause
you support.

Fact is the US military isn`t in Iraq to kill an innocent person, their family
and subjugate the entire nation.

If the US was going to subjugate Iraq...they wouldn`t be letting them
hold elections and turning power over to them...


They went there take out a dictator that wasn`t abiding by the terms of
his surrender. Now they`re there trying to keep the peace and training
Iraqis to be able to keep the peace and control their own Country.

[Guest BlackJesus]

[quote]Face it you`re a hypocrite.[/quote]

[b]Old you are making it harder for me not to pile on with others and point out the fact that you only support the killing and bombing of Iraq .... because you can sit here in comfort and not have to participate in it ....
I was hoping I wasn't going to have to get into it .... because Homer already did a nice job with the ownage .... but you are making it more and more difficult for me not to point out the glaring hilarity that you (like many others) only armchair cheer on a war and thus the economic benefit of it .... knowing that the most danger you might face today is burning your tongue on your eggs benedict [/b]




[center][img]http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/v/M/iraq_chickenhawk.gif[/img]

[i]sorry couldn't find a cartoon with a mullet[/i][/center]

[Guest Bengal_Smoov]

[quote name='BlackJesus' post='222013' date='Feb 23 2006, 03:56 PM'][quote]Does this mean I have to take a revolutionary as an avatar now?[/quote]

[b][size=3]Yes ....[/size]

I would like to recommend Koose Muniswamy Veerappan [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veerappan"]Link[/url].... the reknown Tamil Revolutionary (recently killed)

[img]http://underthefirestar.blogspot.com/photos-04/veerappan.jpg[/img]

He is famous for hiding in the hills of India Amid dense forests for decades and killed over 120 men all by himself in the Tamil struggle for independence. He also is infamous for killing hundreds of Elephants to support his Guerrilla struggle. Plus you gotta love that Stache' [/b]
[/quote]


Dude looks like Rollie Fingers' Indian cousin, put an A's hat on him and it's the same fucking guy...



you know his stache was popular with the ladies.

[Guest BlackJesus]

[center][img]http://www.crooksandliars.com/images/2005/07/06/story.jpg[/img][/center]