Lawman Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 [quote]Is how they bankrupt the US economy by [u]overspending on military[/u][/quote] [quote]You never read my Newt Gingrich link, did you[/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlackJesus Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 [quote name='Actium' post='444297' date='Feb 22 2007, 02:40 PM']and seizing their private assets for the state?[/quote] [color="#4169E1"] [b]Where does the right to property come from ? [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/39.gif[/img] It is just a fictional made up right like all of the other ones .... it is not something that is sacred. What makes something yours ? Is it whether you have enough guns to keep me from taking it ? What if you steal something from me - is it now yours ? If you steal something ... can I then steal that from you and have it not be stealing ? What if you steal something and then give it to someone else .... can I then take it form that person or is it rightfully theirs ? many societies throughout human history have not had such a right of "property" .... some today still don't. Who says that everything doesn't belong to all of us ? [/b][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CincyInDC Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 [quote name='Jason' post='444317' date='Feb 22 2007, 03:13 PM']This is a smokescreen. The rich got richer, but the poor got richer too. It just so happens that the rich went up more than the poor did. [b]THIS IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE. EVER.[/b] The rich have the means and the skill to grow their income. "The poor" will always be here. However, they will not always be the same people. And the group known as "the poor" can do nothing to keep up with the group known as "the rich".[/quote] I don't think the poor got richer--maybe the number of dollars in their pockets was higher, but when you index for inflation, cost of living, etc. I don't think they were better off in the 80's or now, otherwise they wouldn't have turned to crime so readily in the 80's (I'm thinking robberies here), and serving in Iraq wouldn't be "the best option out there" for so many high school grads today. Yes, some of them foolishly go over there thinking putting their lives on the line is their patriotic duty--but not all of them. People often turn to crime out of the desparation of their economic situation, but the 90's gave us the dot com boom, and I believe that helped to lower crime (yes, crime went down under Clinton but he wasn't the main reason why). Everyone had better opportunities thanks to a raging and sadly unsustainable economy. You're right when it come to the poorness of the poor being mostly unrelated to how rich the rich are, but don't you think it's kind of shameful to give the ultra-wealthy enormous, regressive breaks when we could give everyone modest breaks (or better no breaks while we're at war) and not be screwing ourselves so badly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Actium Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 [quote name='BlackJesus' post='444383' date='Feb 22 2007, 03:06 PM'][color="#4169E1"] [b]Where does the right to property come from ? [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/39.gif[/img] It is just a fictional made up right like all of the other ones .... it is not something that is sacred. What makes something yours ? Is it whether you have enough guns to keep me from taking it ? What if you steal something from me - is it now yours ? If you steal something ... can I then steal that from you and have it not be stealing ? What if you steal something and then give it to someone else .... can I then take it form that person or is it rightfully theirs ? many societies throughout human history have not had such a right of "property" .... some today still don't. Who says that everything doesn't belong to all of us ? [/b][/color][/quote] Exactly--your stance on things mirrors my own; although we of course draw different conclusions. Everything is a construct--there is no such thing as legitimacy--it's all a practical consideration of convincing a critical mass of people that you are right. There is no such thing as justice--there is no such thing as morality--there are no natural rights--there is nothing but the world we create. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ONYX Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 [quote name='Lawman' post='444377' date='Feb 22 2007, 04:02 PM'][i]My current favorite show on televison is HBO's seriies ROME. The last episode, exemplified this process.[/i][/quote] [color="#FF0000"][b]I'm suprised a Christian like yourself, watch that show. The violence and worst of all....... the nudity !!!! Dont you know that HBO is the devil? [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//33.gif[/img] [/b][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlackJesus Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 [quote name='Actium' post='444388' date='Feb 22 2007, 04:12 PM']Exactly--your stance on things mirrors my own; although we of course draw different conclusions.[/quote] [b]fair enough ... although we disagree on which policies best work ... I can at least respect the fact that you check the bullshit at the door. [/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 [quote name='ONYX' post='444393' date='Feb 22 2007, 04:15 PM'][color="#FF0000"][b]I'm suprised a Christian like yourself, watch that show. The violence and worst of all....... the nudity !!!! Dont you know that HBO is the devil? [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//33.gif[/img] [/b][/color][/quote] I thought BET was the devil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ONYX Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 [quote name='Jamie_B' post='444396' date='Feb 22 2007, 04:17 PM']I thought BET was the devil?[/quote] [color="#FF0000"][b] I forgot my ninja.[/b][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlackJesus Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 [center][img]http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/history.gif[/img] [b]... China will be looking pretty good soon [/b][/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlackJesus Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 [center] [img]http://www.ottertaildfl.org/img/content/debt.gif[/img][/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 [quote name='ONYX' post='444397' date='Feb 22 2007, 04:20 PM'][color="#FF0000"][b] I forgot my ninja.[/b][/color][/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ONYX Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 [quote name='Lawman' post='444377' date='Feb 22 2007, 04:02 PM'][i]My current favorite show on televison is HBO's seriies ROME. The last episode, exemplified this process.[/i][/quote] [color="#FF0000"][b]ROME was a big cess pool of orgies and homosexuality thats why Jesus unleashed a volcano on their asses.[/b][/color] [color="#FF0000"][img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//24.gif[/img][size=2] I am trippin' today, 3 more hours at work and I get an entire week off, so I'm just clowning....pay me no attention.[/size][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlackJesus Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 [center][img]http://www.j-bradford-delong.net/movable_type/images2/Difference_Year.gif[/img] [b]anyone know Chinese ? [/b][/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawman Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 [img]http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/graphics/LNS12000000_79288_1172179290054.gif[/img] [i]Bureau of Labor Statistics; Employment levels.[/i] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlackJesus Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 [quote name='Lawman' post='444408' date='Feb 22 2007, 04:26 PM'][i]Bureau of Labor Statistics; Employment levels.[/i][/quote] [b]well no shit more people are employed .... we have illegals streaming into the country ... and they don't even realize the jobs are low paying when compared to Guatemala [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//23.gif[/img] so now we have more people - making less than ever ... Yeah [/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlackJesus Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 [center][b]Reagan fucked us .... but then again the memory loss might have kicked in by 85 [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/23.gif[/img] [/b] [img]http://citizenship.typepad.com/isebrandcom/images/us_debt_1.gif[/img][/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlackJesus Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 [center][img]http://truthout.org/imgs.art_01/3.bush_debt_chart_big.jpg[/img] [b]I hope Chinese girls don't have vaginas that smell like soy sauce [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/23.gif[/img] [/b][/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlackJesus Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 [center][img]http://zfacts.com/metaPage/lib/531-Bush-Job-Loss.gif[/img] [b]Maybe I can get a job sweeping the great wall [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/39.gif[/img] [/b][/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawman Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 [quote name='sneaky' post='444393' date='Feb 22 2007, 04:15 PM'][color="#FF0000"][b]I'm suprised a Christian like yourself, watch that show. The violence and worst of all....... the nudity !!!! Dont you know that HBO is the devil? [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//33.gif[/img] [/b][/color] [/quote] [i]It's history, I love how it's all done by British actor's, BBC[/i]. [i]If you go to the website there is trivial information related to scenes in the show. They did some crazy stuff back then [/i] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlackJesus Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 [center][img]http://www.moneyfiles.org/fortherug.gif[/img] [/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawman Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 [quote]we have [u]illegals[/u] streaming into the country[/quote] [i]Then they [u]would not [/u] be listed in those statistics.[/i] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlackJesus Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 [quote name='Lawman' post='444421' date='Feb 22 2007, 04:40 PM'][i]Then they [u]would not [/u] be listed in those statistics.[/i][/quote] [b]trust me I live in South Florida ... most illegals have "legal paperwork" ... hell I can buy you whatever document you need and fedex it to you in a week. They are part of those numbers. [/b] [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/23.gif[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlackJesus Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 [center][b][img]http://toopoortovoterepublican.com/interestpayments2.jpg[/img] I hope little Huhang doesn't make me eat dog [/b][/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlackJesus Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 [center][img]http://toopoortovoterepublican.com/reconciliation.gif[/img] [b]W.W.J.D. right Bush ? [/b][/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Actium Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 [quote name='BlackJesus' post='444426' date='Feb 22 2007, 03:46 PM'][center][img]http://toopoortovoterepublican.com/reconciliation.gif[/img] [b]W.W.J.D. right Bush ? [/b][/center][/quote] Some of these charts don't make any sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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