sois Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 ahah sheldon adelson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 [quote name='Jamie_B' timestamp='1352380658' post='1178617'] Two wrongs don't make a right. I was watching CNN yesterday and of all people Van Jones was saying something similar [/quote] More on what I was talking about Van Jones saying... [url="http://cnsnews.com/news/article/van-jones-democratic-party-becoming-party-where-you-can-be-spiritual-not-religious"]http://cnsnews.com/news/article/van-jones-democratic-party-becoming-party-where-you-can-be-spiritual-not-religious[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewdog Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 [quote name='Jamie_B' timestamp='1352427884' post='1178838'] More on what I was talking about Van Jones saying... [url="http://cnsnews.com/news/article/van-jones-democratic-party-becoming-party-where-you-can-be-spiritual-not-religious"]http://cnsnews.com/n...l-not-religious[/url] [/quote] They quoted what you said about Van Jones on CNN, damn. I'm still trying to get this guy's point. Is Van Jones saying it's ok to be whatever religion you need to be to get votes in the areas you go? Actually to me it seems like the Democratic party is trying to steal Republican votes by putting the word "God" into there party platform. Its pretty silly really. Is this just one of many steps in the next 4 years to try and become more middle ground, while already hearing Conservatives say they are going back to old school politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewdog Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 Can a father and son run together on a Presidential ticket? It looks like Jeb Bush's son is ready to stake his claim in politics. [url="http://news.yahoo.com/next-bush-makes-campaign-filing-texas-041025927.html"]http://news.yahoo.com/next-bush-makes-campaign-filing-texas-041025927.html[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sois Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 Fuck yeah, George P. Bush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Lucid| Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 The biggest thing with me and the Republican party as it stands now are exactly the social issues on their platform. For a party that claims to be about liberty and small government they sure do put a lot of emphasis on people's private lives. There is an important place in our politics for a conservative party. The fact that ours has gotten so far from practicality is dangerous. Our system depends on coming to rational consensus through mutual compromise between divergent philosophies. It keeps things moving in a roughly central path. When one side gets too far out of whack, you get the sort of grid lock that we see now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange 'n Black Posted November 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/11/11/how-the-republicans-got-stuck-in-the-past.html Here's another good article on the issue that makes a lot of the same points I did in the OP. Is the crux of the problem really the elderly ultra conservative base? I hate to use anecdotal evidence, but I am a white, Catholic raised, college educated, fiscally conservative, fraternity-affiliated male. If you asked a GOP party leader to describe the party's base, that person would give you those adjectives and some similar ones too. Plenty of my peers fit into this category too, but I can't think of anyone that actually opposes if company health insurance covers birth control, or if gays can get married, or if women can get abortions, or if immigrants have a reasonable path to become citizens, or any of these other social issues that are sinking the GOP. Conservative social platforms just don't resonate with Millennials, the generation that will be leading our country much sooner than later. I hope it doesn't take that long to fix the party's issues, but I do believe that one way or another, the party's collective head will be out of its ass by the time this generation runs the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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