sparky151

Yes, either one would replace Hubbard's skill set. Sawyer measured with really short arms at the combine so he's dropped on most draft boards.

More details on the new contracts for Tee and Ja'Marr. If they really got roster bonuses rather than signing bonuses, that would be self-sabotage by the Bengals front office. https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/inside-the-tee-higgins-deal https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/inside-the-jamarr-chase-deal

Yes, exactly. Patrick will no doubt be inexpensive but other inexpensive options are better. Dalton Risner or Will Hernandez for instance.

He was a part time starter for the Saints last year. In 2023 he started at center for Chicago and was terrible. He didn't allow any sacks but did have 11 penalties to go with his 40.6 pass blocking grade. His grade was 30.8 the year before that. Lucas Patrick shouldn't be starting for the Bengals in 2025. Maybe they are bringing him in as the backup to Karras or something but he's certainly not starting material.

He's probably not too expensive if he's going to the Browns.

Isn't he the guy who was run out of Chicago for being so bad at center?

Bengals have had a number of departures plus some should-be departures that are currently unfilled. We don't currently have on the roster replacements for Alex Cappa, Trent Brown, Cordell Volson, Trayveon Williams, Khalil Herbert, and Eric All for the offense. I'll count Perine as a replacement for Moss when they release him and we don't need a replacement for Chris Evans. On defense we replaced Rankins with Slaton and ADG with Burks, but still need replacements for Hubbard and Tufele on the D-line, Pratt and Bachie at LB, and probably one for Stone as well.

There's a good chance both Sawyer and JTT are still on the board at 49. They both play the run well but neither are explosive, quick win pass rushers. They give good effort and can generate pressure and have good hand use.

Volson shouldn't be one of our top 4 guards next year but at the moment he's a starter. So they aren't going to release him until they find his replacement. The problem is they haven't replaced him yet despite the abundance of guard options at the start of free agency.

The level of free agents available after the draft will absolutely be worse than what's available now. Agents get their players signed before the draft so they have a seat before the music stops playing. We're in what amounts to the 4th wave of free agency, no need to dilly dally or use the Hendrickson negotiations as an excuse to ignore other needs.

Let us (and Burrow's insurer) pray that's not the case.

We should steer clear of Stewart. He dropped about 20 lbs for the combine. Vernon Ghoston at least had good tape when he busted.

You seem to be in denial that Joe drove the front office to change their modus operandi.

Lol. Joe hasn't said publicly he would go Palmer. That's why it's an "implied threat". It's why he did so many interviews this offseason putting management on notice that he expected improvements. And they finally responded. Not sure if you're trolling here or not, but the team is finally changing it's antiquated contract structure of only guaranteeing non-QB money in year 1.

Booker and Zabel don't belong in the conversation at 17. Nolen and Harmon do. Assuming Pratt isn't back, we should sign a vet LB who can give us snaps while a rookie gets up to speed. I think Kyzir White fits the bill. We could probably get him for 5 mil, he played a thousand snaps last year. He's good vs the run, not good vs the pass so he'd come out for a nickelback. That way we could wait until round 4 or 5 to draft a LB if we don't want or can't get Campbell in round 1.

Eh, BJ Hill wasn't close to being the best available DT. I didn't want to pay the $26M that Milton Williams got but he's not the only DT better than Hill who was on the market.

In the late rounds, you can sometimes find discounted talent. Lots of players get labeled as having red flags, sometimes correctly and sometimes not. If we'd drafted someone useful instead of Burton in round 3 and gotten him in round 7, nobody would care very much. It's the opportunity cost of missing on an early pick that stings more than the spectacle of a Bengal being a knucklehead.

By not going Carson Palmer on them if they didn't get the deals done. What Joe wants from the front office, Joe gets. They got Gesicki, Chase, and Higgins done. And he was thanked by Tee and Ja'Marr publicly for his help.

It was more of an implied threat. He pointed out they could easily afford to keep his big 4 and expected the team to do what it said it would do. Basically he held them to their words. But they still haven't done what Tobin said at the combine, about adding outside talent and not just paying last year's roster more money.

I think it could have happened if another team had made an offer the Bengals liked and it was agreed to before the opening of the tampering period. That would have let the Bengals redeploy their cap space toward Chase Young or Josh Sweat or whomever while adding an early pick. But it's probably for the best that no deal was made as Trey will be a key player for the Bengals in 2025.

Disagree that the Bengals are missing out on free agents because of the city. About 90+% of the time, the player will take the offer that pays the most. It's because NFL careers are short and money missed out on in 2025 won't be made up in 2035. If a player turns down a higher paying offer, it will be because of scheme fit or comfort with a coach he knows or something like that. It won't be because of nightlife. Places like Green Bay, Buffalo, and Detroit can sign free agents and the Bengals have had good free agency periods in the past. Just not this year.

What's your basis to claim Tee is lying about not being offered a multi-year contract? They should have extended him last year and saved themselves some money and drama this year. Or they could have extended Tee and Ja'Marr a month ago and been ready for the start of free agency. Bengals weren't going to touch the Banks or Fries guard contracts but could have signed a pass rusher or two.

It's 10 days into the 2025 league year and most of the top players are signed elsewhere. The Bengals have enough cap space remaining to sign some players. But the good ones are mostly gone. We should expect an extension for Hendrickson and hopefully they don't completely ignore the guard position but I doubt any other signings will be immediate starters.

He publicly said the team didn't offer him a multi-year deal. That's why he waited to July 15 to sign the 1 year tender offer. We don't know exactly what Mulugheta was asking for but Tee said he would have taken the 3 year, 70 million dollar deal that the Colts gave Michael Pittman at the beginning of the 2024 league year.

Not being available to play when needed is pretty much the definition of unreliable.