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[quote name='BlackJesus' post='462149' date='Mar 25 2007, 11:34 AM'][size=3][color="#008080"][center][b]I am sure Lawmans head almost explodes with fury when he watches this video ...[/b][/color][/size]
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My head explodes with fury whenever I see John Lennon with Yoko "Oh No!" AROUND....
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[color="#48D1CC"][b][size=5]Great Picture ... [/size][/b][/color]


[center][img]http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j318/Tredcrow/Illusion/Single01.jpg[/img][/center]
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[center][color="#A0522D"][img]http://www.szilagyi.us/images/shocked.jpg[/img]

[size=6][i]"Quick Lawman ... save us ... the Commies are now sending for help in Space !!!! "[/i][/size]







[img]http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j318/Tredcrow/Illusion/Peace_symbol_sized.jpg[/img]



[img]http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j318/Tredcrow/Illusion/Aerial20Peace20Sign20Best.jpg[/img]



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[img]http://www.chicagoist.com/attachments/chicagoist_justin/Crystal%20shocked.jpg[/img][img]http://www.chicagoist.com/attachments/chicagoist_justin/Crystal%20shocked.jpg[/img]



[img]http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j318/Tredcrow/Illusion/RedParkaPeaceSign.jpg[/img]



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[img]http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/images/0825-02.jpg[/img]

[size=6][i]"Throw these Pinkos in the Gulag !!! "[/i] [/size][/color][/center]
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These arent commies or peaceniks they are capitalist pigs in disguise promoting Mercedes Benz


[img]http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j318/Tredcrow/Illusion/Aerial20Peace20Sign20Best.jpg[/img] [size=4]=[/size] [img]http://www.mercedes-benz-chrysler-jeep-dodge.cz/obr/mercedes_benz.jpg[/img]






:ninja:

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[quote name='Jamie_B' post='462203' date='Mar 25 2007, 03:17 PM']These arent commies or peaceniks they are capitalist pigs in disguise promoting Mercedes Benz[/quote]

[img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//24.gif[/img]


[b]Since they are little kids ... I will forgive them for forgetting the middle line ...



or was it intentional [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//39.gif[/img]





:ninja: [/b]

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[quote name='BlackJesus' post='462204' date='Mar 25 2007, 03:19 PM'][img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//24.gif[/img]
[b]Since they are little kids ... I will forgive them for forgetting the middle line ...
or was it intentional [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//39.gif[/img]
:ninja: [/b][/quote]


:whistle:

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[color="#808000"][size=5][b]Buddy of mine sent me this picture of me that he said he found on a website ... [/b][/size][/color]



[center][img]http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j318/Tredcrow/Illusion/CIMG1091.jpg[/img]



:afropic: [/center]

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[quote name='BlackJesus' post='462216' date='Mar 25 2007, 04:17 PM'][color="#808000"][size=5][b]Buddy of mine sent me this picture of me that he said he found on a website ... [/b][/size][/color]
[center][img]http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j318/Tredcrow/Illusion/CIMG1091.jpg[/img]
:afropic: [/center][/quote]


dude, that is a really cool picture man :headbang:

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[quote name='BlackJesus' post='462216' date='Mar 25 2007, 04:17 PM'][color="#808000"][size=5][b]Buddy of mine sent me this picture of me that he said he found on a website ... [/b][/size][/color]
[center][img]http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j318/Tredcrow/Illusion/CIMG1091.jpg[/img]
:afropic: [/center][/quote]

[i]It is a cool picture and yes I understand the message.

I am only saying, how do you expect to be taken seriously running araound in mask of a fictitous character.[/i]

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[quote name='Jamie_B' post='462140' date='Mar 25 2007, 01:25 PM']Lawman you said you had 15 photographers there, did any of them manage a picture of either group that was more than a close up? Rather a shot of the crowds ie: some sort of ariel shot?[/quote]

[i]That was the number from this area alone, there were more from the DC and FT. Meade area's.

I have not seen any from the latter; waiting to hear back from a couple people.

In my younger days, that is what I did (Aerial photography).[/i]
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[quote name='BlackJesus' post='462201' date='Mar 25 2007, 03:13 PM'][center][color="#A0522D"][img]http://www.szilagyi.us/images/shocked.jpg[/img]

[size=6][i]"Quick Lawman ... save us ... the Commies are now sending for help in Space !!!! "[/i][/size]
[img]http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j318/Tredcrow/Illusion/Peace_symbol_sized.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j318/Tredcrow/Illusion/Aerial20Peace20Sign20Best.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j318/Tredcrow/Illusion/dayofpeace3.jpg[/img]
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[img]http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j318/Tredcrow/Illusion/peace.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j318/Tredcrow/Illusion/HumanPeaceSign.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.chicagoist.com/attachments/chicagoist_justin/Crystal%20shocked.jpg[/img][img]http://www.chicagoist.com/attachments/chicagoist_justin/Crystal%20shocked.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j318/Tredcrow/Illusion/RedParkaPeaceSign.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j318/Tredcrow/Illusion/bekejel-04marc20.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j318/Tredcrow/Illusion/peace_sign_jac.jpg[/img]
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[img]http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/images/0825-02.jpg[/img]

[size=6][i]"Throw these Pinkos in the Gulag !!! "[/i] [/size][/color][/center][/quote]



[i]I have no problems with pacifist, I understand their sincerity. I have a problem with groups that disguise themselves to be something other than what they really are.

I have said before, it will be a great day in this country when: The troops can come home and the closing of GITMO.

We are just not there yet.[/i]
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[quote name='Lawman' post='462298' date='Mar 25 2007, 07:55 PM'][i]That was the number from this area alone, there were more from the DC and FT. Meade area's.

I have not seen any from the latter; waiting to hear back from a couple people.

In my younger days, that is what I did (Aerial photography).[/i][/quote]


I ask because you and BJ are pretty far apart on what these numbers where and thus I would like to see some sort of shot that could give us an idea for ourselves.
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[quote]Lawman,
Maybe I can help, I disagree with your logic. Saddam and his Bathist (socialist) regime is gone and that is why anti-war (anti-american) activist are out. They are pissed that there socialist buddies have been removed.[/quote]

[quote]Blackjesus
:rant: OH FUCK YOU ASSHOLE !!!! Saddam was a Stalinist Dictator ... [b]he was not a Socialist[/b].[/quote]

Looking past the personal attack, I will not venture down to the gutter with you;

[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baath_Party"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baath_Party[/url]


[color="#000080"]The Arab Socialist Baath Party (also spelled Ba'th or Ba'ath; Arabic: حزب البعث العربي الاشتراكي Ḥizb al-Ba`ṯ al-`Arabī al-IÅ¡tirāki) was founded in 1947 as a radical, secular Arab nationalist political party. It functioned as a pan-Arab party with branches in different Arab countries (Yemen, Lebanon, Sudan), but was strongest in Syria and Iraq, coming to power in both countries in 1963. In 1966 the Syrian and Iraqi parties split into two rival organizations. Both Baath parties retained the same name, and maintain parallel structures in the Arab world.

The Baath Party came to power in Syria on 8 March 1963 and attained a monopoly of political power later that year. The Baathists ruled Iraq briefly in 1963, and then from July 1968 until 2003. After the overthrow of President Saddam Hussein's Baathist regime in the course of the 2003 invasion of Iraq, the occupying authorities banned the Iraqi Baath Party on May 16, 2003[1]. The Iraqi party has since then been associated with armed resistance to US, UK and cooperating Iraqi government forces. However, in a televised speech on January 10, 2007, US President George W. Bush told the American people that "to allow more Iraqis to re-enter their nation's political life, the government will reform de-Baathification laws - and establish a fair process for considering amendments to Iraq's constitution" [2].

The Arabic word Ba'th means "resurrection" or "renaissance" as in the party's founder Michel Aflaq's published works "On The Way Of Resurrection". Baathist beliefs combine Arab Socialism, nationalism, and Pan-Arabism. The motto of the Party is "Unity, Freedom, Socialism". "Unity" refers to Arab unity, "freedom" emphasizes freedom from foreign control and interference in particular, and "socialism" refers to what has been termed Arab Socialism rather than to Marxism.[/color]

[i]The NAZI's were Socialist and not fascist, that was Mussolini.[/i]

[quote]And NONE of the people there were speaking out in support of Saddam.[/quote]

[i]Never said that, actually they say nothing about Saddam at all, it would mute their argument.[/i]

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[quote name='Jamie_B' post='462302' date='Mar 25 2007, 08:04 PM']I ask because [u]you [/u]and BJ are pretty far apart on what these numbers where and thus I would like to see some sort of shot that could give us an idea for ourselves.[/quote]


[color="#000080"]... and Sarah and Jack Langer.

additionally there are other bloggers, but I haven't and will not use them.

I think the point is being missed,The Gathering of Eagles made a call out to defend the monuments and that call was heard. Again,this stemmed from the January march, when all the vandalism occured.

BJ has been unable to distuingish the fact that I have said the vandalism occured in January (not the one on March 17th), by some whom joined him in his march.[/color]
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[quote name='Jamie_B' post='462302' date='Mar 25 2007, 08:04 PM']I ask because you and BJ are pretty far apart on what these numbers where and thus I would like to see some sort of shot that could give us an idea for ourselves.[/quote]

***Update: Heidi at Gathering of Eagles reports on the [b]National Park Service [/b]estimate of the GoE turnout: 30,000 strong. The silent majority no more.***
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[quote name='Lawman' post='462356' date='Mar 25 2007, 09:52 PM']***Update: Heidi at Gathering of Eagles reports on the [b]National Park Service [/b]estimate of the GoE turnout: 30,000 strong. The silent majority no more.***[/quote]


Link?

As I found this... (Just trying to get some sort of realism, as GOE's #s and BJ's are drasticly different and much like what I am doing with my paper I'd like to see something from an unbias authority)

[url="http://sadlyno.com/archives/5434.html"]http://sadlyno.com/archives/5434.html[/url]

[quote]Dear Mr. […]:

I am the spokesperson for the National Park Service in Washington, D.C. I never issued any statement of any kind about anything related to this past weekend’s events, let alone anything about crowd size. In fact, I was never asked that question by anyone.

Anyone who gives any crowd size number or figure for this past weekend is making the figure up and does not have any authorization whatsoever to attribute those figures to the National Park Service. Since I never issued any such statement nor was ever the question raised in the first place, it is impossible to attribute any figures to the National Park Service for this past weekend’s events.

Lastly, Congress prohibits the National Park Service from giving or providing any crowd estimate for any permitted event on the National Mall.

I hope this is of help and clarification for you.

Bill Line
Communications & Tourism Officer
National Park Service
National Capital Region
1100 Ohio Drive, SW
Washington, D.C. 20242[/quote]



Also Im not sure as to this Bloggers creditability, but Bill Line does exist and works for the NPS, so Im sure it wouldnt take much to find out if that letter above was indeed sent out by him.

[center]NATIONAL CAPITAL REGION (DC, MD, VA)
Bill Line 202.619.7177 202.619.7302
William_Line@nps.gov[/center]

[url="http://www.nps.gov/pub_aff/pressrm.htm"]http://www.nps.gov/pub_aff/pressrm.htm[/url]
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Also of note. (Scroll to bottom)

It appears the National Park Service no longer does "crowd counting" (at least not officially).

[url="http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0121-08.htm"]http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0121-08.htm[/url]

[quote]Crowd counting in the capital used to fall under the auspices of the [b]National Park Service[/b]. Congress stopped that after the park service estimated the 1995 Million Man March at 400,000 people and were threatened with a lawsuit and charged with racism.[/quote]



Like I said Im just trying to get a honest number here from a unbias authority.
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[quote name='Lawman' post='462309' date='Mar 25 2007, 08:17 PM'][color="#000080"]... and Sarah and Jack Langer.



I think the point is being missed,The Gathering of Eagles made a call out to defend the monuments and that call was heard. Again,this stemmed from the January march, when all the vandalism occured.

BJ has been unable to distuingish the fact that I have said the vandalism occured in January (not the one on March 17th), by some whom joined him in his march.[/color][/quote]


Also I dont disount that vadilism probabally did occour in Jan, and may have been planned by some of the "more our there" elements. It certinally would explain why BJ was confronted like he was when he was at the Wall in his V mask.
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[quote name='Lawman' post='462309' date='Mar 25 2007, 08:17 PM']BJ has been unable to distuingish the fact that I have said the vandalism occured in January (not the one on March 17th), [u]by some whom joined him in his march[/u].[/color][/quote]


[b]How do you know that the vandals from January ... were present at this march on the 17th ? Do you have anything viable to base this on ... other than your opinion ? [/b]
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[quote name='Lawman' post='462306' date='Mar 25 2007, 08:11 PM']Looking past the personal attack, I will not venture down to the gutter with you;

[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baath_Party"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baath_Party[/url]
The Arab Socialist Baath Party (also spelled Ba'th or Ba'ath; Arabic: حزب البعث العربي الاشتراكي Ḥizb al-Ba`ṯ al-`Arabī al-IÅ¡tirāki) was founded in 1947 as a radical, secular Arab nationalist political party. It functioned as a pan-Arab party with branches in different Arab countries (Yemen, Lebanon, Sudan), but was strongest in Syria and Iraq, coming to power in both countries in 1963. In 1966 the [size=4]Syrian and Iraqi parties split into two rival organizations.[/size][/quote]



[size=4][b] :contract: read your own posting !!! [/size]


Also nice selective editing of words from your own damn link [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//30.gif[/img]


too bad you didn't finished reading the entry ... which clearly states [/b]



:contract: [quote]Iraqi and Syrian Baathism today differ widely and partially oppose each other,[/quote]


:contract: [quote]Saddam Hussein Iraq also moved away from Baathist principles.[/quote]

[b][color="#008000"]Saddam was a Stalinist ... hell he even grew out his mustache to look like Stalin and modeled his statues after Stalins. [/color]


[center][img]http://www.ucg.org/commentary/imagescommentary/beyondslaves.jpg[/img][img]http://www.sammonsays.com/artman/uploads/stalin.jpg[/img][/center]


The Syrian Bathists - who are enemies of the Iraqi Bathists believe in Arab Socialism = Iraqs Baathists have abandoned it --- just like Saddam did. [/b]

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[quote name='rudi32' post='462391' date='Mar 25 2007, 11:57 PM']law man u cant call nazis socialist, cause I did and bj blew up.

but u were correct, the nazis were socialist, the italians were fascist[/quote]

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[quote name='Lawman' post='462306' date='Mar 25 2007, 08:11 PM'][i]The NAZI's were Socialist and not fascist, that was Mussolini.[/i][/quote]



[b]What the fuck are you dipshits talking about ? What the hell does the Baathist party in Iraq have to do with the Nazis ? What the hell does the March on the Pentagon have to do with the Nazis ? Are you really going to argue that Nazis are on the left in this country and not on the right ? :crazy: Yeah I am sure the Nazis just love hanging out with the Vegans, Homosexuals, Hippies, and don't forget all the minorities.

Idologically ... Nazis are on the right in this country ... and believe me they favor Republicans far more than Democrats.


Even still ... what the fuck does this have to do with what we are talking about ? [/b]

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[quote name='Jamie_B' post='462360' date='Mar 25 2007, 09:00 PM']As I found this... (Just trying to get some sort of realism, as GOE's #s and BJ's are drasticly different and much like what I am doing with my paper I'd like to see something from an unbias authority)

[url="http://sadlyno.com/archives/5434.html"]http://sadlyno.com/archives/5434.html[/url]

[quote]Dear Mr. […]:

I am the spokesperson for the National Park Service in Washington, D.C. I never issued any statement of any kind about anything related to this past weekend's events, let alone anything about crowd size. In fact, I was never asked that question by anyone.

Anyone who gives any crowd size number or figure for this past weekend is making the figure up and does not have any authorization whatsoever to attribute those figures to the National Park Service. Since I never issued any such statement nor was ever the question raised in the first place, it is impossible to attribute any figures to the National Park Service for this past weekend's events.

Lastly, Congress prohibits the National Park Service from giving or providing any crowd estimate for any permitted event on the National Mall.

I hope this is of help and clarification for you.

Bill Line
Communications & Tourism Officer
National Park Service
National Capital Region
1100 Ohio Drive, SW
Washington, D.C. 20242[/quote]

Also Im not sure as to this Bloggers creditability, but Bill Line does exist and works for the NPS, so Im sure it wouldnt take much to find out if that letter above was indeed sent out by him.[/quote]

Very interesting, Jamie...Thanks.

I don't know what is more crazy...The cooking of numbers for these Blogs, or the fact that Lawman is ready and willing to fight here over them when he was never there.

Discarding a blatant lie is easy enough...But what do you do with a blatant lie that people will continue to stand up, pull their hair out, and shred their credibility over??

BZ
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[color="#0000FF"][b]

Also Lawman … your little obsession with branding Nazi’s “Socialists” lacks the appropriate context. Yes they referred to themselves as “National Socialists” --- but just calling yourself “Socialist” does not mean that you are following the tenants of “Socialism” (which themselves have a lot of variation).

:contract: As an analogy I would assume you would object to the branding of Hitler as a “Christian” = Even though he indeed saw himself as one.

Thus would it be fair to lay Christianity at the doorsteps of the Nazi death camps … just because the Fuhrer had a twisted view of Christianity – or called himself one.

Hell Nazi’s were in favor of ethnic cleansing and believed in racial superiority – these are not “socialist” precepts. Not to mention that the Nazi’s biggest enemy = were Communists who they despised.

[img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//37.gif[/img] I understand it makes you feel better to think that all Commies & Socialists are evil … and that they are all either Hitler or Stalin … but this view is flawed … and one could even argue correctly that Hitler/The Nazis nor Stalin/Communist Russia = did not follow anything that had to do with Socialism or Communism.


Also look at this way …. At one time the Republicans in America were located in the Northern Liberal areas --- and the Democrats were mostly in the south. At one time Republicans were the party of the big cities – and Democrats were the party of rural whites. Now it is the exact opposite with the Southern Strategy being utilized by Republicans (Which is really their only hope anymore to even be relevant and have a chance).

The point being that using titles for historical parties or people is semantically dangerous --- because so many things change overtime … and [u]labels usually do not work.[/u] [/b][/color]

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[quote name='BengalBacker' post='461718' date='Mar 24 2007, 04:44 AM']Is there no middle ground with any of you?

You extremists on all sides are ruining the world. You've all lost your fucking minds.[/quote]

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no one heard you BB... they were too busy trying to yell louder than the other person...
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