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[b] This Reds Media Guy [i]Really [/i] Wanted To Kick Someone’s Ass After Today’s Loss [UPDATE][/b]


[img]http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17h8z6st1oianpng/avt-small.png[/img][b]Erik Malinowski[/b]

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Jamie Ramsey is the [url="https://twitter.com/jamieblog"]Reds' assistant director of media relations[/url], and he's very protective of his team, like any good p.r. person. However, Cincinnati has had kind of a rough week and was on its way to losing its fourth straight game. That's when Ramsey started getting into it on Twitter with some Reds fans. Eventually, things got a little out of hand. Let's take a look at how things unraveled over the course of a couple hours.


(click the link for the twitter postings and meltdown)

http://deadspin.com/5933159/this-reds-media-guy-really--wanted-to-kick-someones-ass-after-todays-loss?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow




[b]UPDATE (1:18 EDT):[/b] Jamie Ramsey has [url="http://ramsey.mlblogs.com/2012/08/09/a-message-from-the-author/"]released a statement[/url] on his blog. It reads:
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It is with a terrible sense of regret that I come to you tonight to apologize for my embarrssing inability to control my emotions on Twitter and more importantly, my failure to properly represent myself as an employee of the Cincinnati Reds.[/indent]
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As you may have saw (or read), I sent an inappropriate "direct message" to a person who tweeted some pretty nasty things to me. I shouldn't have done it and I'm sorry to those of you I've let down. I also want to apologize to the Reds who for years have trusted me with the keys to @Jamieblog and Better Off Red. They have every reason to feel betrayed tonight by my poor judgment. The Cincinnati Reds organization has worked so hard in developing a culture within the company called the "Reds Way." My actions today are a complete failure to that development.[/indent]
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To those of you who know me or have "followed" me for a while, you know that no one is more loyal to this team than me. "Expect good news" has always been the blog's mantra, more so to get through the rough patches than during a first-place division-title run. In the end, however, that loyalty and my failure to act like a civilized adult is basically what has me in this unfortunate predicament.[/indent]
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Moving forward, I'm terminating the @jamieblog Twitter account effective immediately.[/indent]
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I'm humiliated and I'm sorry.[/indent]
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Jamie[/indent]

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I dunno what he said, or what the heckler said, but I just don't see getting that worked up about a loss (especially in baseball where even the best teams still lose 40% of their games).


I dunno, maybe I'm a bad fan, but ever since I've had kids and seen a bigger picture of life, losses just don't hit me as hard anymore. It's just sports. I give myself a few minutes to be upset and then just go play with my kids.

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What is the world coming to when you can't threaten to kick someone's ass on Twitter for fear of losing your job? I'm going to go tweet random ass kicking requests.

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[quote name='Bengals1181' timestamp='1344520120' post='1144260']
I dunno what he said, or what the heckler said, but I just don't see getting that worked up about a loss (especially in baseball where even the best teams still lose 40% of their games).


I dunno, maybe I'm a bad fan, but ever since I've had kids and seen a bigger picture of life, losses just don't hit me as hard anymore. It's just sports. I give myself a few minutes to be upset and then just go play with my kids.
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some guy called him a Dusty dick rider, so he sent a direct message about kicking his ass, and the guy they took a screenshot and sent it to the reds to get him in trouble.

Jamie shouldn't get anything more than a slap on the wrist. He got trolled.

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[quote name='gatorclaws' timestamp='1344526975' post='1144289']
[color=#ff0000]some guy called him a Dusty dick rider[/color], so he sent a direct message about kicking his ass, and the guy they took a screenshot and sent it to the reds to get him in trouble.

Jamie shouldn't get anything more than a slap on the wrist. He got trolled.
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T-Dubb??

:P

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[quote name='gatorclaws' timestamp='1344526975' post='1144289']
[b]some guy called him a Dusty dick rider, so he sent a direct message about kicking his ass, and the guy they took a screenshot and sent it to the reds to get him in trouble.[/b]

Jamie shouldn't get anything more than a slap on the wrist. He got trolled.
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I fucking hate people that do shit like this.

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[b]UPDATE #2 (1:40 pm):[/b][color=#333333][font=Georgia, Times,] Ramsey has now reopened his Twitter account at [/font][/color][url="https://twitter.com/jamieblog"]@Jamieblog[/url][color=#333333][font=Georgia, Times,] and started tweeting again.[/font][/color]


[color=#333333][font=Georgia, Times,]The guy that called him a Dusty Dick Rider has had his account suspended. [/font][/color][url="http://stats.storify.com/record/click?sid=50231fec14692013535f1b56&redirect=http://twitter.com/DaRedsWinPOW"]Big Mike[/url]

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[b]From Mo Egger's blog ....[/b]



[b]This is making the rounds this morning. [/b] Jamie Ramsey, Assistant Media Relations Director for the Reds, made a big mistake. He sent a regrettable direct message on Twitter to a follower. [b][url="http://deadspin.com/5933159/this-reds-media-guy-really--wanted-to-kick-someones-ass-after-todays-loss"]Deadspin has the summary of the events[/url][/b]. [b][url="http://ramsey.mlblogs.com/2012/08/09/a-message-from-the-author/"]Jamie has addressed it on his blog[/url][/b].

I know Jamie on a professional level. He is among the best media relations pros in the city. I also know him on a personal level, and while things I might say or write about the Reds could make that uncomfortable at times, I know that Jamie is a really, really, good dude.

Jamie has a public role as a representative of the Reds. This means a couple of things....unlike you and I, he's naturally only going to spin things in a positive direction on his Twitter feed and his blog. I've even joked publicly that Jamie has made being negative about the Reds uncool. It also means that he has a responsibility to represent the Reds in a positive way.

Clearly what he did yesterday isn't how a Major League team wants its employees to behave. It reflects poorly on the organization, and if I think it'd be fair to expect some sort of internal discipline for Jamie.

What happens is between Jamie and the Reds, though I think terminating his employment would be a severe overreaction. Jamie has worked for the Reds for well over a decade, in a few different capacities, and has put together a very, very, good body of work. He's represented the team well, and has served the players, media, and fans with respect while often going above and beyond.

What's troubling is how many in the Twitter world have resorted to reactionary character assassination of a good guy who made a big mistake. What I've learned in following the reaction of many is that we are surrounded by perfect people, who despite their perfection, hide beyond the anonymity of a Twitter handle.

We are in a day and age where people are not only taking sports waaaaay too seriously, but are using social media and the internet to bully. I see it, and yes, I've been baited by it. I've also sent one or two tweets and/or emails I regret. I'd like to think I learned from them. I hope Jamie learns from this. And maybe instead of anonymously destroying someone's good name and hoping to dance on their professional grave, we learn from it.
But it was, ultimately, a mistake. It was a lapse in judgment fueled by emotion and one person pushing another over a tipping point. We've all done that, whether it be a text, email, or simply saying something you later regret. Emotions get high, people do dumb things. That's how people are wired.

Now yes, it's different when you're acting on behalf on an employer, which Jamie is. But he and his employer will discuss it and I'm assuming some sort of action will be taken. Maybe the rest of us can take a deep breath, stop the virtual frothing at the mouth that is starting to ruin Twitter, Facebook, talk radio, the internet, and people's basic ability to have rational discussions, and re-examine things just a bit.

Everyone's opinion has merit. And we should be able to share them without being bullied, harassed, or threatened.

And people are taking sports, life, and themselves a shade too seriously.

Jamie got pushed over the edge by someone, and what he did was wrong. I'm sure he feels awful about it. I can't imagine the Reds are happy about it.

But to take delight in a relatively harmless mistake by one person and point and laugh at him while he twists in the wind is both wrong and a nod to the idiots who are ruining otherwise useful 21st century tools.

Jamie's Twitter account is closed, I fear his blog will be shut down, and I worry about his future employment with the Reds. For either of them to meet their demise would be a victory for the bullies.

[i][b]Update:[/b] [b][url="https://twitter.com/jamieblog"]Jamie has since re-opened his Twitter account[/url][/b].[/i]


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Ill put this here, likely to cause T-Dubb's head to explode.

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[color=#333333][font=verdana, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]Reds manager Dusty Baker has long been a punching bag to of his many critics. The offenses that are most often cited: Dusty's supposed skill at ruining arms, his preference for veterans and his tendency to give far too many at-bats to the likes of [url="http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/3541/neifi-perez"]Neifi Perez[/url] and [url="http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/4239/corey-patterson"]Corey Patterson[/url]. Even his repeated references to the fact that he played with Hank Aaron have become a running joke.

That's all in good fun, and there's some justification for that criticism. But perhaps we should take a closer look at Baker's performance this year. With the Reds six games ahead of second-place Pittsburgh, I think the case can be made that Dusty is -- wait for it -- somewhat underrated as a manager.

Yes, that suggestion is going to be met with laughter in some quarters. After all: [url="http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/3821/kerry-wood"]Kerry Wood[/url]! [url="http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/4936/mark-prior"]Mark Prior[/url]! Hank Aaron! I've been guilty of repeating those punch lines and, let's be honest, Dusty remains pretty deficient in many of the areas that are obvious to people who actually, you know, watch the games.



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[img]http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2012/0712/mlb_u_dbaker_sy_200.jpg[/img][/url]Frank Victores/US PresswireDusty Baker's Reds have won 23 of 31 games (.742) since the All-Star break.[/background][/background][/b][/size][/font]Baker's in-game management has not improved one iota over the years. He insists on using leadoff hitters with sub-.300 OBPs. His catcher must always bat eighth and his shortstop must always hit first or second. Those are his rules, and Baker rarely wavers, no matter the personnel at his disposal.

Further, his bullpen usage has been curious, to put it lightly. He uses [url="http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/6489/sean-marshall"]Sean Marshall[/url] -- one of the best relievers in either league over the past three years -- as a situational lefty, and Baker has a bizarre predilection for using guys like [url="http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/30393/logan-ondrusek"]Logan Ondrusek[/url] in the eighth inning. Plus …

Wait. Wasn't I supposed to be defending Dusty?

The point, of course, is that Baker's weaknesses as a manager are on full display each and every day while his strengths may not be as visible to the naked eye. Baker is reputed to have a talent at managing the individual players and the atmosphere in the clubhouse.

All available evidence suggests that the reputation is well-deserved.

Players clearly love playing for him, and he's very vocal about standing up for his guys. No, we can't quantify it, but it's a real skill, in my opinion.

What can be quantified is the fact that this year's Reds have overachieved, and Baker has to be given some credit for getting the most out of this club. Since [url="http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/28670/joey-votto"]Joey Votto[/url]'s surgery, Baker has mixed and matched, plugged holes and led the Reds to 20 wins in 28 games. I dare say no one on earth could have predicted, with an offense that had been struggling all season even with Votto, that Cincinnati could have extended its lead in the NL Central by five games [i]without[/i] their MVP.

Baker also takes heat because, purportedly, he doesn't play some players enough ([url="http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/29950/devin-mesoraco"]Devin Mesoraco[/url], specifically), or he sits some players too often, or rests them at odd times (during important games, for example). Much of that criticism is overblown. Mesoraco is a talented rookie, but it's reasonable to ease him into more playing time when you have another catcher ([url="http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/28899/ryan-hanigan"]Ryan Hanigan[/url]) who plays great defense and gets on base at a good clip.

As noted [url="http://news.cincinnati.com/article/AB/20120808/SPT04/308080117/Baker-looking-keep-Reds-healthy"]by one of the Reds' beat reporters[/url], there's a rhyme for Baker’s reason.

He keeps guys rested ([url="http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/3507/scott-rolen"]Scott Rolen[/url] is the best example of recent years), and he gets everyone enough playing time to keep them sharp. (Importantly, he hasn't given anyone more playing time than they deserve; there are no Corey Patterson/[url="http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/5895/willy-taveras"]Willy Taveras[/url] disasters on this year's club.)

Even more interesting, one data point in favor of Baker’s ability to keep players fresh is that his teams have traditionally finished strong. The overall winning percentage of Baker's teams is .524. The winning percentage of those same teams during September is .558. The September winning percentage of Baker's five previous playoff teams: .621.

Finally, even his critics will be forced to admit that most of the well-worn accusations leveled at Baker largely don't apply to this year's Reds team.

He abuses pitchers? Well, Baker has used the same five starters all season long, without injuries or overuse. Four of those starters are age 26 or younger. This is the single biggest clichéd criticism of Baker over the years, but evidence of pitcher abuse during his Cincinnati years has been almost nonexistent.

He prefers veterans? Well, at times this season, Baker has had three rookies -- Mesoraco,[url="http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/30466/zack-cozart"]Zack Cozart[/url], and [url="http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/30004/todd-frazier"]Todd Frazier[/url] -- in the starting lineup together. Cozart has more at-bats than anyone on the team and Frazier has emerged as, perhaps, the most important player on the club (Non-Votto/Cueto Division). Okay, Frazier is at least the most important former Little League World Series star on the current roster.

Dusty Baker isn't perfect, by any means, but if you can see past the goofy stuff he does every night, you might find that, overall, he's done a pretty good job with this year's Reds, under some difficult circumstances.

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