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  1. Dalton: "I thought we had a good day out there" Ross: "I'm getting back to where I should be" Jackson on OTAs and advice he's given to John Ross Iloka shares how he uses OTAs as an opportunity to get better 2018 OTA Highlights: Vol. 1
  2. Heads up; Bengals eye NFL edicts Posted 22 hours ago Geoff HobsonEditorBengals.comFollow Me Blog A A While the Bengals continued to implement their off-season changes during this week’s voluntary practices, the NFL owners were giving the teams some significant involuntary changes to the playbook with the passage of two major items this week in Atlanta. Exhibit A is Alex Erickson's new kick return. Alex Erickson eyes the NFL's new kickoff. While the Bengals continued to implement their off-season changes during this week’s voluntary practices, the NFL owners were giving the teams some significant involuntary changes to the playbook with the passage of two major items this week in Atlanta. As they gathered for the first of three weeks of voluntary practices leading into next month’s mandatory minicamp, the Bengals were unclear of the impact of one rule change and one point of emphasis. Special teams coordinator Darrin Simmons, who was one of the coaches who consulted with the league on re-configuring the kickoff to make it safer, has spent the offseason preparing his players for the changes. The other major rule, the more murkier point of emphasis covering players who initiate contact with their helmets are now subject to ejection after an in-game video review, has them convinced nothing has changed. “It’s what we always teach,” said head coach Marvin Lewis. “You tackle with your eyes.” “It’s going back to when I played. Its how I was taught and what I teach,” said linebackers coach Jim Haslett, the 1979 NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year. “Head up. Keep the head up. Get out the old neck collars.” “What has always been illegal is illegal now,” said safety George Iloka. But eyebrows were raised when the league put offensive and defensive line play under the umbrella, igniting questions about the ability of offensive lines to fire off the ball in the running game. Some have even predicted the demise of the three-point stance or off-tackle football. Offensive line coach Frank Pollack and left guard Clint Boling, dean of the line in his eighth season, don’t see it. Boling said the team has been shown clips of the dos and don’ts, but none on line play. “It’s going to be really hard to regulate interior play,” Boling said. “If they’re going to enforce that, I can promise you there’s a lot you can go find on tape and they weren’t on the cutup. I haven’t heard anything about O-line play or D-line play. I don’t think we’re changing what we’re doing up front. “It’s not like it’s a huge rule change. It’s just see what you hit. Now they’re going to be enforcing things like that. But that’s the way we’re taught. You’re supposed to keep your head up. I don’t see it being a huge change up front … It’s not like they’re coaching guys to put their heads down.” Pollack, who played guard for the 49ers in the ‘90s, doesn’t see the death of the three-point stance. “I don’t,” he said. “I don’t teach guys to head butt with the top of the crown. That’s dangerous. Head up and hands. See your target. Punch with your hands.” It remains to be seen how the officials call it. But when it comes to the new kickoff, it remains to be seen how the dust is going to clear now that wedge blocking is outlawed, the kick-off team can’t get a running start, eight of the return team’s players must start out in a 15-yard zone near midfield and any kick that hits the ground in the end zone is an automatic touchback. Clayton Fejedelem hopes the new rule adds to his tackles total. “There might be bigger hits on it now,” said third-year safety Clayton Fejedelem, a Pro Bowl teams alternate last season who led the Bengals’ specialists with 15 tackles. “You can’t have a wedge. So if you beat your first-level block, then you’re running scot free at the returner.” “There’ll be a lot more returns where it’s just a lot of one-on-one blocks,” said wide receiver Alex Erickson, the incumbent returner and 2016 AFC kick return champion as a rookie. “You just read it out and make cuts. It might turn into a little more of a punt play. As a returner, you’re going to have to hit it a little faster, even harder because it’s harder to sustain those single blocks across the board. Hitting it. Trusting it.” That’s a good way to get Simmons peeved. Don’t call it a punt play. “When it comes to the spacing of blockers and cover players, it is like a punt in that sense,” Simmons said. “But I view it more like an offensive play. It’s all about timing. Blocks have to be timed in relationship to the returner. It’s more like an offensive play in terms of timing and it still is.” Bottom line? No one knows what’s going to happen on the new kickoff. How are teams going to approach it and what exactly can the players get done in the new alignment? Tune in. Fejedelem says the Bengals have to rip up their schemes, like every team in the league, but he knows no one has thought about it more or is more prepared than Simmons. “It levels out the playing field,” Simmons said. “In the past the advantage has been to the kicking team. You’d see teams that hang it up short of the goal line and stop people short of the 25. But they also had the option to kick it deep and get the touchback. There’s no doubt cover players won’t get down field as fast as they did. Does that make people want to kick it deep? Maybe so. So you pick your poison on the depth of the kick.” No one knows, of course, what’s going to happen. Simmons doesn’t see traits changing, but now speed, athleticism and ability to tackle in space are even more coveted. With no wedges allowed and only three players deep, the assumption is linemen are no longer going to be on the field for fear they can’t handle the ball. Erickson, though, is OK. “Returners are returners. That’s not going to change,” Simmons said. Simmons can see the rule influencing some teams opting to change the structure of their rosters. Maybe, say, keeping an extra cover player like a safety instead of a receiver. But even though linemen now figure to be extinct on kickoffs, that won’t impact their numbers since maybe it means only about five snaps a game for them. The players appreciate the bid for safety, but Fejedelem and Erickson also know what they signed up for. “I don’t mind it,’ said a smiling Erickson of the pounding. “But I’ve never been on the wedge.” Fejedelem wonders how safe the returner is going to be now that he’s not protected by a wedge. Cover players can be doubled teamed at the first level, but not the second. “Even though you don’t have a running start, if you beat those guys up front, you’ve got free sailing,” Fejedelem said. “It’s going to be interesting. If you get to that second level and someone’s trying to block you, there’ll be a flag. But how can you let your returner get blown up? That’s going to be interesting.” Erickson doesn’t mind fending off the swarm. “That’s all right,” he said. “That’s our job back there.” http://www.bengals.com/news/article-1/Heads-up-Bengals-eye-NFL-edicts/7ff5070e-2501-4294-971f-a0b743c7f2af
  3. oldschooler

    RANDOM BENGAL THOUGHTS

    Hell, I might as well have 2 drinks tonight...
  4. oldschooler

    RANDOM BENGAL THOUGHTS

    I'll drink to that...seriously
  5. The dude seriously wants to be a Dictator. He already has the Dick part down pat.
  6. Offense feels the urgency Posted 21 hours ago Geoff HobsonEditorBengals.comFollow Me Blog A A On Tuesday, the Bengals offense looked urgent in its 2018 debut. Urgent enough that some observed it was the quickest the offense has looked since Hue Jackson ran it from 2014-2015. John Ross looked smooth Tuesday. There is plenty of time to get to the defense. But, let’s face it. The bulk of this offseason has been about reviving the worst offense in the land and on Tuesday head coach Marvin Lewis offered a limited but anticipated first glance during a session that began what is expected to be nine voluntary practices before mid-June’s mandatory minicamp. Lewis prohibited reporters from saying where his players lined up as offense met the defense for the first time this year, but given the practice went off pretty smoothly despite a new playbook it was pretty clear they were already fairly comfortable where offensive coordinator Bill Lazor put them. Andy Dalton and the quarterbacks got the ball out fast and the receivers were there to respond for the most part. Naturally, Dalton hit 2011 soulmate wide receiver A.J. Green deep a few times, but this is the spring and summer of getting Green and Dalton help. “We got the ball out quick and on time,” Dalton said, “and for a first day, that’s what you want.” And the Bengals weren't even working on tempo. That will come later. But the urgency that Lazor has instilled in the last five weeks has made the offense quick enough that some were observing it was the quickest the offense has looked since Hue Jackson ran it from 2014-2015. Much has been made of the youth of this club, but the relative smoothness of the offense’s debut is a reminder Dalton in his eighth season. Not only that, new backup is Matt Barkley in his sixth season. Lazor is on his second team as a coordinator. New quarterbacks coach Alex Van Pelt is in his 13th NFL season and Hall-of-Famer Aaron Rodgers is still miffed he left Green Bay in January. New receivers coach Bob Bicknell has coached three different 1,000-yard receivers in the league. Of course, there were moments. Dalton had routes jumped by two cornerbacks, veteranDre Kirkpatrick and rookie Darius Phillips. But other than that ... “I think we’re headed in the right direction,” Barkley said. “A pretty good first day.” And there was something old (tight end Tyler Eifert) and something new (wide receiver John Ross) bouncing about on Tuesday that reflected their efforts to unite their weapons in a marriage of points. Plus, new O-line authoritarian Frank Pollack has decreed everyone on his beleaguered unit has a clean slate and on Tuesday he offered the much-maligned Cedric Ogbuehi as proof playing both tackle spots while planning to also put him at guard down the road. But that slate needs to include versatility and Pollack vowed that everyone would switch sides on Wednesday. “The speed at which we practiced in the first phases really helped us,” Eifert said. “We were running a lot in the first two phases and it was good to see there was not a lot of mental errors.” Just to see Eifert in what they like to call a Phase Three of the off-season workouts is a breath of fresh air. It’s believed to be the first time since his rookie season of five years ago he’s romping around in 11-on-11. He agrees. It’s the best he’s felt since he tore tendons in his ankle in the Pro Bowl after the 2015 season. New defensive coordinator Teryl Austin urges on his six-time Pro Bowl tackleGeno Atkins. Although Lazor has built a different offense than the one that gave him 13 touchdown catches that season, Eifert doesn’t see an enormous difference. Except for how the plays are called and that the running game is different with the same plays blocked with different technique. But Eifert sees what everybody else sees and probably better. Pollack has changed the culture up front and since Eifert’s brother-in-law is Cowboys guard Zack Martin with three Pro Bowls under Pollack in Dallas, he had a sneak preview. “(Martin is) a big fan,” Eifert said. “With his success in Dallas you can see he knows what he’s talking about. He brings an energy. He’s hard-nosed, he’s got a gritty attitude. That’s what he passes on to the players. He’s tough on the guys, but the guys respect him.” That’s exactly what Lewis sought as he attempted to re-build a unit that yielded the worst rushing season in franchise history. There had been whispers from among even their own coaches the previous two seasons that the line had been “soft,” the kiss of death for any line. But Pollack, who started six games during eight seasons with the 49ers, is anything but. “We’re not here playing chess, I know that,” Pollack said after practice. “The last time I checked its football and you have to kick the guy’s ass who’s across from you. Nothing’s changed … I don’t care what we do with the rules … at the end of the day it’s a physical, violent game and you have to be mentally tough. I can get a lot of drunk fraternity guys to start fights, but that’s not football, that’s mentally weak.” Lewis is seeing why he and Lazor didn’t want Pollack getting out of the building back in January when he came in for an interview. “He’s a very aggressive, physical person,” Lewis said. “He’s an excellent teacher, He’s very detailed. Every single step, every single movement has been broken down piece, piece, piece, piece, piece, piece.” Ross, another much-maligned young player who also seems to be getting a clean slate, is another guy that doesn’t see a whole lot of difference in the offensive scheme. But there is something clearly different with him. “Confident,” Kirkpatrick said. “He looks a lot more confident.” Ross looked relieved, if not exhausted. The 2017 first-round pick who only caught flak last season (he didn’t have a line but a rhombus with 17 snaps, two targets, one fumble, no catches) caught a little bit of everything Tuesday. Some balls over the middle. A swing pass on the edge. A deep ball where he made a nice adjustment, contorted his body to come back to the pass, and caught it before he kept going. “It’s my first (OTA), so I really didn’t know what to expect,” Ross said. “It’s a real big workload. I thought it was going to be like the workouts we had the last couple of weeks, but it was a lot of harder than that. It was good. You can always do better. I’ll watch the film tonight.” Last year he was famous for a fumble on his first NFL carry. On Tuesday, it looked like he caught everything. But a high pass in one-on-one. Maybe it was too high. But when he leaped, he touched it. “That’s on me. I touched it,” Ross said. “I should have had it. That drop hurt me bad.” But on a first day that was pretty good, that was OK. http://www.bengals.com/news/article-1/Offense-feels-the-urgency/47ff3562-44af-4f64-a3bb-56b5538abf8c
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    Billy Price signs

    Price's roller coaster takes another turn Posted May 21, 2018 Geoff HobsonEditorBengals.comFollow Me Blog A A Here's the deal behind the deal Billy Price signed Monday. Billy Price signs his deal Monday. This is the deal behind the deal. David Cole, born on the first day of 1943 and gone before Billy Price played in a New Year’s Week bowl for Ohio State, still loomed on Monday’s scene. His grandson signs an NFL contract before lunch and among the matters scrolling through his mind (lunch, finding a house, a 1:30 rookies meeting, offensive line coach Frank Pollack’s assignments) his grandfather is on the list. “When I lost him my senior year in high school, it re-structured your world around what actually happened,” Price says over said lunch. “I know he’s looking down and he’s happy and he’s proud of what’s been going on. The roller coaster of life itself, there are moments when you wish you could take that back, or you wish you could say something or wish you didn’t do something, but in the end, things work themselves out.” Just because you start 55 straight games for David Cole’s beloved Buckeyes and you get drafted in the first round by one of the hometown teams in Cincinnati’s Bengals and are anointed immediately as the Opening Day center and you put down an envelope worth $11.7 million over the next four years next to your Stromboli doesn’t mean you’re exempt from the roller coaster. Even though his parents divorced young, Price had everyone in his life growing up on the outskirts of Youngstown, Ohio. But it was the punch-the-General-Motors-clock-work ethic of his grandfather that Price modeled. Two days before Christmas Price drove from his side of Austintown to the other to check on his grandfather in his home. After finding him dead of a heart attack spawned by Arrhythmia a week shy of 70, Price recalls going into “a dark place.” The roller coaster doesn’t care if you’re a star or a fan, rich or poor, offense or defense, center or guard. It took time, but Price emerged because his grandfather demanded it. As if he were supervising Billy around the house with those outside chores. Cutting the lawn. Trimming the yard. Raking the leaves. There would be no half-assing it, is the way his grandson recalls it. “You don’t slack off because your house is a representation of you,” Price says. “If you’re going to do it, put your best effort into it.” Marvin Lewis is smiling because he and his coaches coveted Price's intangibles. This is the reason the Bengals coveted Price in last month’s draft. Sure, they loved his athleticism and his experience and his versatility at all three inside spots. All that was great. But it was the intangibles that won them over. The daily commitment to the job. The knack for leadership. The David Cole stuff. The 10 voluntary on-field practices start Tuesday and Price doesn’t figure to be practicing until the start of training camp as they take it slowly with his surgically- repaired shoulder. But in last week’s rookie minicamp he had been as advertised. Rambunctious in drills. Making sure he’s in the middle of the walk-throughs. Leaning hard into his fellow offensive players. Full tilt. Expect more of the same in Tuesday’s non-scrimmage looks. “I’m going to do as much as I can during this time,” he says. “Going to see if the trainers will cut me loose more this time.” Cole returned to Youngstown from Texas to retire when Price was about eight or nine, just when he and his brother and sister were reaching the formative years. He had worked his way through GM from shift manager to foreman to plant manager. He then began developing plants and they sent him to Laredo, Texas as a project head taking the lead in building factories and working on both sides of the border. “He dealt with all kinds of people. It was incredible,” Price says. “He got to be 60 and me and my brother and sister were starting to play sports and growing up and I just think he wanted to experience being a grandad and being around us.” Even though he was retired, that didn’t stop Price from watching him live. “Anything he put his name to was a 100-percent effort,” Price says. “That’s something I really I admired. “I said, ‘OK, if I’m going to represent, it better be the best version I can make it.’” Cole was a three-sport star at Fitch High School 50 years before his grandson would go there and win the football scholarship to Ohio State. His game was baseball, a shortstop and pitcher who didn’t go to the next level. He went into the Army, served in Germany, and returned home to begin the climb through GM with a young family. “It was a different time,” Price says. “He had a household to support.” He didn’t tell his grandkid what to play or how to play. “He was just there to support me.” He made every recruiting visit with Price and, well, he may have tipped his hand there. “He loved Ohio State. It made it easy for me,” Price says. “I knew where I wanted to go. He did to. It was easy. What is it about Ohio State? Best university on the map.” The line in David Cole’s obit said it all. “He was so proud and excited that his grandson, Billy was starting this coming season with the Ohio State Buckeyes.” “He would be excited now,” Price says. “When you put your name on something to represent something, do it to your best ability. Make sure it’s done and it’s done the best. So when folks say, ‘OK, who did that? I’m proud to say, hey it was me. Not just someone skating through life and half-assing things.” Price is finishing his lunch. He looks at the clock. That 1:30 rookies meeting. “It’s 27,” he says. “Got to go.” David Cole is going to. “He’d be very proud and he’d be all over me about making sure I’m not spending my money and doing all kinds of stuff and how he was,” Price says. That’s the deal behind the deal. The roller coaster keeps moving. http://www.bengals.com/news/article-1/Prices-roller-coaster-takes-another-turn/cf7edd33-a130-4166-85a6-5ba11e547dfd
  8. OTA quick hits: No Carlos; Pretty sharp for first day; Ross smooth Posted May 22, 2018 Geoff HobsonEditorBengals.comFollow Me Blog A A It wasn’t exactly Tom Brady being a no-show up in Foxboro, but when Bengals Pro Bowl left end Carlos Dunlap wasn’t on the premises Tuesday for the first of 10 voluntary practices of the spring it looked to be the Bengals’ most high-profile OTA absence since Dunlap was a rookie and wide receiver Chad Ochocinco was filming his dating show in 2010. It’s unknown what Dunlap’s reasons are (he couldn’t be reached for comment via text), but the assumption is he’s in his contract year. So is six-time Pro Bowl defensive tackle Geno Atkins and he was on Tuesday’s first line. Head coach Marvin Lewis says he’s talked to Dunlap and hasn’t asked him if he’ll be at next month’s mandatory minicamp. “He’s busy. He’s working out,” said Lewis, when asked what the reasons are after Tuesday’s workout. “It’s not a story. It’s not a big deal.” … Dunlap’s snaps went to right ends such as veteran Michael Johnson and third-rounderSam Hubbard …. Also moving around is Cedric Ogbuehi, backing up both left and right tackle, and offensive line coach Frank Pollack says he’ll move into guard at some point. And Pollack says he won’t be the only guy that has to play multiple spots … Since Lewis doesn’t allow reporters to say where his players line up it can be assumed Bobby Harttook a lot of snaps because right tackle Jake Fisher (shoulder) didn’t practice. It’s believed Fisher’s injury isn’t major and he could be back late in OTAs, but he should be ready for training camp …. Pretty sharp for a first practice with Bill Lazor’s new offense against new defensive coordinator Teryl Austin’s men. New backup quarterback Matt Barkley said it best. The Bengals didn’t work on a quick tempo Tuesday but it looked like they were because of what Barkley called “urgency,” at the line of scrimmage. For at least one veteran, it was the most urgent they’ve looked at the line and getting rid of the ball since Hue Jackson ran the offense in 2014-15 …. Yes, wide receiver John Ross looked good in his first OTA practice ever. It will be recalled that last year’s No. 1 pick couldn’t do anything until the second week of training camp because of shoulder surgery, a major reason he had no catches, one fumble, and one blown route in just 17 targets and three games. “I didn’t know what to expect because I’d never been in one, but the workload was heavy. I was feeling it,” Ross said. “It was good, though. I felt comfortable.” In stark contrast to that deep route in Tennessee he cut short that got him benched back in November, he made a nice adjustment Tuesday on a deep ball where he slowed down to come back and haul it in. He hooked up with Barkley several times over the middle. “He’s really improved his route running, just in the (five weeks) we’ve been here,” Barkley said. Lewis, who said after that game in Tennessee that Ross let the team down, was a bit more charitable after Tuesday’s practice. He did remind him to buckle his chin strap when Ross was back there catching punts, but he also said he’s confident in Ross’ confidence. “John grew up in Long Beach, California. I have no questions about his confidence,” said Lewis, who coached at Long Beach State in the ‘80s. “I know where he went to school. I know where he grew up. I know the block he lived on. I don’t worry about John and his confidence. You have to be confident just to walk every day.” …. One of the debates of the offseason is how much is Austin going to change the Zimmer-Guenther defense of the last ten seasons. Back in March, Lewis said a lot. Last month the players said it might just be a little more multiple. On Tuesday safety George Iloka said not much. “Sorry, I know you’re looking for a story,” Iloka said. “But from what I can see there are just some things he wants to be played differently.” … Tight end Tyler Kroft and rookie wide receiver Auden Tate were on the rehab field with minor injuries ...Quarterback Jeff Driskel, in the last stretches of healing a broken non-throwing arm, was on the field but didn't take snaps ... Former Giants head coach Ben McAdoo was a visitor to practice. He coached with Bengals quarterbacks coach Alex Van Pelt in Green Bay ... The NFL owners are meeting this week but Bengals president Mike Brown missed his second straight session with club vice presidents Katie and Troy Blackburn attending in his place. He's recovering from the artificial hip surgery that forced him out of the March meeting, but he chose to stay home to watch this week's practices. http://www.bengals.com/news/article-1/OTA-quick-hits-No-Carlos-Pretty-sharp-for-first-day-Ross-smooth/33429a7b-32ce-4473-aeef-362de0f43e25

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