Homer_Rice Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 [quote name='Actium' post='630938' date='Feb 8 2008, 08:42 AM']The guy is going to fall apart before the election...he's a codger. I don't like his policy iniatives and I think he's unstable.[/quote] Agree with you on this, though I think he makes it through the election. If elected, I suspect the Manchurian Candidate will break down at some point. So, watch the VP nominee. If it's a guy like Bloomberg--get ready to head for the hills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hocuspocus Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 [quote name='Homer_Rice' post='630961' date='Feb 8 2008, 09:32 AM']Agree with you on this, though I think he makes it through the election. If elected, I suspect the Manchurian Candidate will break down at some point. So, watch the VP nominee. If it's a guy like Bloomberg--get ready to head for the hills. [/quote] Please dear God - not Bloomberg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LudwigVan Kubrick Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 [quote name='Jamie_B' post='630858' date='Feb 7 2008, 06:14 PM']Am I missing something? Where is this McCain hates asians thing coming from?[/quote] Do you want a link to the "burkas" comment, the "gooks" comment, or do you just want to google "racism"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LudwigVan Kubrick Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 [quote name='STRAYCAT' post='630856' date='Feb 7 2008, 06:07 PM']Do ya blame him after the way he was treated in the pow camp. Still scary. [/quote] I understand why he feels that way after being tortured. But I don't think our president should be that unstable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 [quote name='LudwigVan Kubrick' post='630993' date='Feb 8 2008, 10:46 AM']Do you want a link to the "burkas" comment, the "gooks" comment, or do you just want to google "racism"?[/quote] humor me as I havent seen this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatScratchFever Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 [quote name='Actium' post='630887' date='Feb 7 2008, 10:10 PM']Personality does matter a lot to me. Furthermore, I don't want McCain in there, as he is cantankerous and will blow his top before the election. He will further damage the Republicans by dint of his policies, which in many cases are Democrat-leaning. I'd rather not see the country move closer to a mere 1 party state, at least a 1 party state in which the remaining group is the Democrat.[/quote] So you'd rather vote for a smooth talker with socialist ideals and a cheery personality than a guy who believes in capitalism and the American way but has a chip on his shoulder? (Not comparing current candidates, just an example) You put a higher value on whether the candidate gives great speeches than whether you agree with what he says in those speeches? Funny, those who believe in the Rapture say that's exactly how the Antichrist will rise to power. For the record, I don't like McCain either. I see him as the Republican version of Bill Clinton. He's a flip-flopper, a smooth talker who will say whatever you want him to say to get your vote. He is every bit as unprincipled and slimy as Clinton. This is going to be a really tough election for me. Hillary and McCain's stances on issues change with whichever way the wind is blowing, and I don't agree with any of Obama's stances on major issues. So my choice is vote for someone who I don't really know where they stand, or vote for someone I completely disagree with. Too bad it's not warmer in Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalrick Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 [quote name='Jamie_B' post='631020' date='Feb 8 2008, 12:18 PM']humor me as I havent seen this[/quote] if he is ever asked about what he thinks about the people that held him prisoner in Vietnam, he will say something to the effect of "i will never forgive those gooks"... He says he is talking about those particular guards, and not vietamese people in general... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LudwigVan Kubrick Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 [quote name='bengalrick' post='631029' date='Feb 8 2008, 12:45 PM']if he is ever asked about what he thinks about the people that held him prisoner in Vietnam, he will say something to the effect of "i will never forgive those gooks"... He says he is talking about those particular guards, and not vietamese people in general...[/quote] Yeah... try that logic with any derogatory term... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalrick Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 [quote name='LudwigVan Kubrick' post='631048' date='Feb 8 2008, 01:49 PM'] Yeah... try that logic with any derogatory term... [/quote] hard to not see why he would dispise those that held him captive and tortured him for a few years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 [quote name='bengalrick' post='631029' date='Feb 8 2008, 12:45 PM']if he is ever asked about what he thinks about the people that held him prisoner in Vietnam, he will say something to the effect of "i will never forgive those gooks"... He says he is talking about those particular guards, and not vietamese people in general...[/quote] hasnt he since been back to 'Nam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Actium Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 [quote name='CatScratchFever' post='631028' date='Feb 8 2008, 11:43 AM']So you'd rather vote for a smooth talker with socialist ideals and a cheery personality than a guy who believes in capitalism and the American way but has a chip on his shoulder? (Not comparing current candidates, just an example) You put a higher value on whether the candidate gives great speeches than whether you agree with what he says in those speeches? Funny, those who believe in the Rapture say that's exactly how the Antichrist will rise to power. For the record, I don't like McCain either. I see him as the Republican version of Bill Clinton. He's a flip-flopper, a smooth talker who will say whatever you want him to say to get your vote. He is every bit as unprincipled and slimy as Clinton. This is going to be a really tough election for me. Hillary and McCain's stances on issues change with whichever way the wind is blowing, and I don't agree with any of Obama's stances on major issues. So my choice is vote for someone who I don't really know where they stand, or vote for someone I completely disagree with. Too bad it's not warmer in Canada.[/quote] As someone who believes that the system will not allow for meaningful reform, and that while powerful the President is very limited in implementing major policy shifts here at home (foreign policy is heavily impacted by the President), I would rather have someone with whom I disagree but can tolerate than someone with whom I largely agree but can't stand. If we were choosing a dictator or something I would feel differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nati Ice Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 [quote name='Actium' post='630801' date='Feb 7 2008, 03:32 PM']Bummer, I was going to vote for Romney. I really don't like McCain, so I will probably vote Obama. Just because he is the most palatable to me, and I like his burgeoning cult of personality.[/quote] [img]http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95/jrod9927/4984838.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer_Rice Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 [quote name='Actium' post='631091' date='Feb 8 2008, 08:23 PM']If we were choosing a dictator or something I would feel differently.[/quote] [url="http://www.progressive.org/mag_rothschild0308"]That may be exactly what we are doing.[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Elflocko| Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 I'll be voting for Ron Paul if I have to do so as a write-in candidate.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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