The Ben tapes

[Jeb]

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Updated: June 9, 2010, 3:16 PM ET


ESPN.com news services

MILLEDGEVILLE, Ga. -- The college student who accused Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger of sexually assaulting her said she didn't try to fight him off because he appeared to anger easily.

"I noticed throughout the night he kind of had like a short temper, like he would get really, like, defensive," she told police in her second interview with them on March 5, about 12 hours after she said the assault took place. She didn't elaborate further on what made her think the quarterback had a short temper.

The accuser's interview is among more than 50 audio and video recordings released Wednesday by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation. The prosecutor determined there wasn't enough evidence to warrant criminal charges after the investigation concluded, and he said the woman ultimately asked him not to prosecute the quarterback.

The new videos include the first extensive comments by the woman that have been made public, though written statements she gave investigators have been released. She has declined interview requests. Authorities haven't released her name.

One of the new videos shows Roethlisberger smiling, giving people high-fives and pumping his fist at the club where the woman said she was assaulted.

The 20-year-old accuser was interviewed twice by police -- the first time shortly after she made the accusation early March 5 in the small college town of Milledgeville, about 80 miles southeast of Atlanta. The second interview was about 12 hours later at the Milledgeville police station.

The woman sounded intoxicated when she spoke with Milledgeville officer Jason Lopez in the first interview. Her words were slurred and she even says at one point, "Obviously, I'm drunk." An audio recording of that interview was made.

During the first interview, she said she repeatedly told Roethlisberger, "I really don't think this is OK," but couldn't stop him from having sex with her in the bathroom of a bar.

"I don't know what I can ... do," she said. "I'm a little girl and he's a big boy."

The victim told police she is 5-foot-4 and weighs 145 pounds. Roethlisberger is listed at 6-5 and 241 pounds.

Lopez asked the woman if she knew of any reason why Roethlisberger would feel "it was OK to do this to you."

While the accuser acknowledged wearing an explicit name tag, which was left over from a friend's birthday party earlier in the night, she denied leading him on.

"I wasn't forward in any way," she said. "I wasn't like, 'Oh my gosh, have sex with me because you're an NFL superstar.' I really don't know why [it happened]."

The next afternoon, the woman went to the police station for a follow-up interview that was videotaped. She was calm and matter-of-fact when discussing the previous night, struggling to remember a few details but adamant that she had been raped by Roethlisberger.

In the video, the woman's face was blurred. She told police she didn't think trying to fight Roethlisberger would stop the assault.

"I figured it wouldn't help anything," she said. "I didn't want, obviously, him to hurt me any more than he was going to."

In Pittsburgh, Roethlisberger took part in a Steelers practice session but didn't talk with the media. He was escorted off the field by a team spokesman.

The new videos include the first extensive comments by the woman that have been made public, though written statements she gave investigators have been released. She has declined interview requests. The Associated Press generally doesn't name those who say they were sexually assaulted, and authorities haven't released her name.

The quarterback was suspended for the first six games of the upcoming season, though commissioner Roger Goodell said he could reduce it to four games if Roethlisberger shows he is committed to improving his off-the-field behavior.

Roethlisberger also is being sued in Nevada by a woman who says he sexually assaulted her there in 2008. There were no charges brought in that case.

His attorney has denied he did anything wrong in Georgia, where he owns a lake house near Milledgeville.

In suspending Roethlisberger, Goodell has said the 28-year-old failed to meet the league's expectations for player behavior with his carousing.

One of the new videos shows the quarterback partying at the club where the accusation was made. The shaky 49-second video, shot by a member of Roethlisberger's entourage, shows the quarterback, wearing a black Nike baseball cap and black T-shirt with a devil's face on it.

Most of what Roethlisberger is saying is drowned out by loud music in the club, but he can be heard asking a girl what her drink tastes like.

He repeatedly gives high fives to people off camera. When the friend shooting the video asks him to say hi, he strikes a pose, punches his fist twice in the air and flashes a huge grin at the camera.

Several of Roethlisberger's teammates said they didn't even know the DVDs were being released.

"It's not even something that's being discussed," backup quarterback Charlie Batch said. "It has nothing to do with football."

Offensive lineman Willie Colon -- the only teammate with Roethlisberger at the Georgia nightclub -- said he hasn't had a chance to speak with Roethlisberger about the case since the tapes were made public.

"I had no idea that it was going to be released to the public," Colon said. "All I can do is just deal with whatever comes along with it. I just want to let everybody know I have a family and I'm a good man and I spoke freely in my interview" with Georgia investigators.

Colon's hourlong interview with a GBI agent was one of the videos released Wednesday. He shed little light on the case, saying he didn't even know anything had occurred until he saw police at the club. He wasn't with Roethlisbgerer afterward, leaving in a separate car, though he was concerned about what impact the accusations would have.

"I'm a player, too," Colon told the agent in his interview. "I can't get in trouble. We've got to be more cautious about putting [ourselves] in situations where people can harm us."

Roethlisberger spoke to reporters briefly last week after a Steelers voluntary practice. He said he's ready to make major changes to a lifestyle that cast him as an example of behavior by privileged pro athletes with a sense of entitlement.

"I've put a lot of thought into my life, the decisions that I've made in the past," Roethlisberger said last week. "I've been sitting at home thinking about things, and I've been working closely with the commissioner on ways to make changes, corrections.

"I'm looking forward to the second chance and the second opportunity -- not just in football, because I think everybody knows what you're going to get [from me] in football, but in life. I think that's kind of what's more important."[/quote]


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5267443

[fredtoast]

[size="3"][i]"Lopez asked the woman if she knew of any reason why Roethlisberger would feel "it was OK to do this to you."

[b]While the accuser acknowledged wearing an explicit name tag[/b], which was left over from a friend's birthday party earlier in the night, she denied leading him on."[/i][/size]




The name tag said DTF for "Down to Fuck".

I hate to defend Ben in any way, but what did this girl think would happen if she got shit-faced drunk wearing a tag like that.

[KoKaine7777]

[quote name='fredtoast' date='09 June 2010 - 04:24 PM' timestamp='1276115098' post='892349']
[size="3"][i]"Lopez asked the woman if she knew of any reason why Roethlisberger would feel "it was OK to do this to you."

[b]While the accuser acknowledged wearing an explicit name tag[/b], which was left over from a friend's birthday party earlier in the night, she denied leading him on."[/i][/size]




The name tag said DNF for "Down to Fuck".

I hate to defend Ben in any way, but what did this girl think would happen if she got shit-faced drunk wearing a tag like that.
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[b]Why should she think anything? DNF could have meant anything.If she was naked with her legs open, still means nothing until she says let's fuck or jumps on your dick.[/b]

[Xombie]

[quote name='fredtoast' date='09 June 2010 - 04:24 PM' timestamp='1276115098' post='892349']
[size="3"][i]"Lopez asked the woman if she knew of any reason why Roethlisberger would feel "it was OK to do this to you."

[b]While the accuser acknowledged wearing an explicit name tag[/b], which was left over from a friend's birthday party earlier in the night, she denied leading him on."[/i][/size]




The name tag said DNF for "Down to Fuck".

I hate to defend Ben in any way, but what did this girl think would happen if she got shit-faced drunk wearing a tag like that.
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How does DNF stand for 'Down to Fuck? Clearly, literacy is not Ben's strong suit? Couldn't it be better said to mean 'Does Not Fuck' as a sign to avoid awkward come on lines?

[TheBeaverHunter]

[quote]"I don't know what I can ... do," she said. "I'm a little girl and he's a big boy."

[b]The victim told police she is 5-foot-4 and weighs 145 pounds[/b]. Roethlisberger is listed at 6-5 and 241 pounds.[/quote]

Not too little.

[Vol_Bengal]

[quote name='fredtoast' date='09 June 2010 - 04:24 PM' timestamp='1276115098' post='892349']
[size="3"][i]"Lopez asked the woman if she knew of any reason why Roethlisberger would feel "it was OK to do this to you."

[b]While the accuser acknowledged wearing an explicit name tag[/b], which was left over from a friend's birthday party earlier in the night, she denied leading him on."[/i][/size]




The name tag said DNF for "Down to Fuck".

[b]I hate to defend Ben in any way, but what did this girl think would happen if she got shit-faced drunk wearing a tag like that.[/b]
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fred... come on man... I hope you said this with a strong sense of sarcasm involved.

I mean shit, if only I'd known that all it took was a name tag on your shirt that said various things and you were open season - gawd, high school would have been sooooo much better!

[|Bunghole|]

That motherfucker is a dirty, raping shitbag.

[fredtoast]

[quote name='Xombie' date='10 June 2010 - 06:27 AM' timestamp='1276165645' post='892432']
How does DNF stand for 'Down to Fuck?
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Actually it was a typo. I meant to type "DTF"

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2010/0415101roethlisberger1.html

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When Roethlisberger asked about the initials, "Garofalo explained that 'DTF' stood for 'down to fuck' [/i]


Again, I hate to defend Ben in any way, and I don't believe that any girl who dresses sexy is asking to get raped, but I have a hard time being sympathetic to a girl who wears a tag like that and then gets out-of-control drunk.

[fredtoast]

[quote name='Vol_Bengal' date='10 June 2010 - 08:18 AM' timestamp='1276172289' post='892444']
fred... come on man... I hope you said this with a strong sense of sarcasm involved.

I mean shit, if only I'd known that all it took was a name tag on your shirt that said various things and you were open season - gawd, high school would have been sooooo much better!
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Really? Girls in my high school didn't wear "Down to Fuck" signs.

[Abu-Zayd]

[quote name='KoKaine7777' date='09 June 2010 - 04:31 PM' timestamp='1276119112' post='892374']
[b]If she was naked with her legs open, still means nothing until she says let's fuck or jumps on your dick.[/b]
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are you serious?

if there is a girl getting crazy drunk with a sign this like, it does not surprise me this happened. if it was someone else this happened with, which it very well could have considering the circumstances, there is no lawsuit and no charges... perhaps some regret, perhaps not...

i don't like the guy, but a nightclub is not a library and this sort of occurrence is not too uncommon at a "good" club on a busy weekend...

[Vol_Bengal]

[quote name='fredtoast' date='10 June 2010 - 11:51 AM' timestamp='1276185119' post='892495']
Really? Girls in my high school didn't wear "Down to Fuck" signs.
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did it say "DTFY"

as in Down to Fuck You?...


Otherwise, that is quite an assumption by Mr. Roethlisberger... oh, and I guess the DTF "nametag" on a paper sticker on her shirt trumps her telling him to stop, correct? Just so I understand protocol in the event I'm ever in similar circumstances...

[Vol_Bengal]

[quote name='fredtoast' date='10 June 2010 - 11:51 AM' timestamp='1276185119' post='892495']
Really? Girls in my high school didn't wear "Down to Fuck" signs.
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If they had would you have taken em into the bathroom and raped em? That is what you're saying...

[Hooky]

[quote name='fredtoast' date='09 June 2010 - 04:24 PM' timestamp='1276115098' post='892349']
[size="3"][i]"Lopez asked the woman if she knew of any reason why Roethlisberger would feel "it was OK to do this to you."

[b]While the accuser acknowledged wearing an explicit name tag[/b], which was left over from a friend's birthday party earlier in the night, she denied leading him on."[/i][/size]




The name tag said DTF for "Down to Fuck".

I hate to defend Ben in any way, but what did this girl think would happen if she got shit-faced drunk wearing a tag like that.
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So you're saying that she had it coming? Are you serious? It's her fault? It's the same idiotic logic that you shouldn't havebeen in a bad neighborhood late at night or left your house or car unlocked. It's a criminal act. Nobody is at fault except the criminal. That's what she gets for trusting people not to take advantage of her?

[Farbeyonddriven]

I hate to say this, but that girl in the video's story sounds really fishy.(i.e) She didn't know if he came in her, she said it was pitch black, but she says she saw his penis when he walked into the room, and also says he wasn't wearing protection. Not saying he is innocent, but her story doesn't really add up.

[|Bunghole|]

[quote name='Farbeyonddriven' date='15 June 2010 - 05:01 PM' timestamp='1276635696' post='893147']
I hate to say this, but that girl in the video's story sounds really fishy.(i.e) She didn't know if he came in her, she said it was pitch black, but she says she saw his penis when he walked into the room, and also says he wasn't wearing protection. Not saying he is innocent, but her story doesn't really add up.
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Well, since the police allegedly "collected evidence" from her, I would assume that means some kind of rape kit swab where they try to scoop up some of his man goo out of her cootchie. If there wasn't enough there to prove he fucked her, there's not much else in the way of evidence they can collect.

[Farbeyonddriven]

[quote name='Bunghole' date='15 June 2010 - 06:47 PM' timestamp='1276642068' post='893182']
Well, since the police allegedly "collected evidence" from her, I would assume that means some kind of rape kit swab where they try to [b]scoop up some of his man goo out of her cootchie.[/b] If there wasn't enough there to prove he fucked her, there's not much else in the way of evidence they can collect.
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So eloquent lol!

Anywho, I didn't know that they collected his "man goo" from her...ewww, Imagine something like that procreating. If they did collect semen, then why isn't that s.o.b sitting in jail? money fucking talks.