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[quote name='BengalsCat' post='345615' date='Sep 21 2006, 09:11 AM']Greetings Fellow Delegates,

Currently Hamiltonian has taken a favorable stand on this UN resolution to aprove hemp growth. If you have any questions for me please feel free to USE THE POSTINGS UNDER GO-BENGALS section of our Region....... :)

Best Regards,

Prime Minister of Hamiltonian[/quote]


Correct me if Im wrong, but the resolution is to REPEAL the resolution allowing hemp growth.

New BengalinNaples has just applied for membership to the UN. New BengalinNaples is a peaceful country that believes in the sanctity of personal freedoms including the recreational use of hemp and poppy.

This resolution does nothing to outlaw or stop production of hemp, but rather is against the UN giving financial backing to all countries that produce it. I am in agreement with this resolution for the main reason that my hemp farmers are already getting government subsidies. If all countries adopt this policy I will see a decrease in the demand for New BengalinNaples Hemp err what I meant to say is that it is NOT the purpose of the United Nations to support farmers! Yeah, thats it! Keep the UN OUT of our backyards and fields! If they pursue this course, whats next? Telling our hard-working farmers what they can or can't grow??? No sir! I cannot be a party to such action!

Most Respectfully,

The Grand Poobah of BengalinNaples

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[quote name='Jamie_B' post='345382' date='Sep 20 2006, 10:24 PM']How would my fellow UN Delegates prefer to vote on this Hemp law?[/quote]

I re-read the FAQ, and realize I was incorrect earlier. There only can be one UN delegate. That being, whichever nation has the most endorsements. So, the Rouge Nation of Jamie_B, with two endorsements, is currently the only delegate, and now carries three votes. Any other nation with less than that will still only carry a single vote. It does not appear to say what happens in the event of a tie (i.e. two nations with the same number of endorsements). Might be interesting to find out one day, but that's besides the point.

That said, this is our current position on the latest proposal:

We recognize the difference between industrial hemp and marijuana (marijuana usage is legal in our country. Just not in public, so this is not an issue for us, but think it might be for other nations where the drug is outlawed). We also recognize the many benefits of industrial hemp. We do however, feel that United Nations and individual nations' funds could be better spent elsewhere.

We agree with most of the problems this proposal points out with Resolution #85 and believe that it should be repealed. Noting the final line:

[quote]2. AFFIRMS that this repeal [b]will not prohibit any nation from continuing such programs on a national level should they choose to do so[/b], noting that their right to implement such schemes would remain protected by the UN under Resolution #128, "Representation in Taxation".[/quote]

If any nation wishes to pursue Industrial Hemp production as a resource, we say all power to them, but we do not believe that UN funds should be used to support this. Nor do we beleive, that individual nations (especially poorer nations, or nations where hemp growing might not be as feasible) should be forced to use their tax money to subsidize such programs.

So, as I said, we plan to vote in favor of repealing #85, and are willing to give our endorsement to any nation that plans to vote likewise.

That is... unless we can all agree on some sort of regional democratic pact. :whistle:

Boomer07
Prime Minister
The Democratic States of Boomerstan

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Off of UN topics for now:

[quote]The Democratic States of Boomerstan
"Auribus teneo taxideinae"


UN Category: Inoffensive Centrist Democracy
Civil Rights:
Excellent Economy:
Good Political Freedoms:
Excellent

Location: Go Bengals Regional Influence: Instigator


The Democratic States of Boomerstan is a very large, socially progressive nation, notable for its compulsory military service. Its hard-nosed, intelligent population of 50 million have some civil rights, but not too many, enjoy the freedom to spend their money however they like, to a point, and take part in free and open elections, although not too often.

It is difficult to tell where the omnipresent government stops and the rest of society begins, but it juggles the competing demands of Healthcare, Education, and Law & Order. The average income tax rate is 47%, but much higher for the wealthy. A large private sector is dominated by the Beef-Based Agriculture industry.

Reporters often lose their jobs over fact-checking errors, all guns must be registered, a government program is underway to revitalize Boomerstan's beaches, and [b]hundreds of thousands of convicts work as slaves in Boomerstan's many privately-owned prisons[/b]. Crime -- especially youth-related -- is relatively low, thanks to the all-pervasive police force and progressive social policies in education and welfare. Boomerstan's national animal is the badger, which is also the nation's favorite main course, and its currency is the boom.

Boomerstan is ranked 10th in the region and 58,387th in the world for Largest Public Transport Department.[/quote]

:angry:

Motherfucking big corporations. They said that if we privatized our prison system, they could do it more efficiently and cheaply. They didn't say anything about fucking [b]slavery[/b]! This knocked me way off from "Scandinavian Liberal Paradise", down to "Inoffensive Centrist Democracy" and now this sentence pops up:

[quote]Its hard-nosed, intelligent population of 50 million have some civil rights, but not too many, enjoy the freedom to spend their money however they like, to a point, and take part in free and open elections, although not too often.[/quote]

Those cocksuckers fucked up my whole liberal paradise! :rant:

Just warning the rest of you if the issue comes up about privatizing prison the system, dismiss it. That is, unless you promote slavery and/or are an evil corrupt dictator, in which case, go for it.

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Look through our region and notice the different UN Categories us Go-Bengals reps have. It's funny, because many of us have the opposite of what I would normally assume from us.

For instance, Jamie is a Democratic Socialist? I have a Civil Rights Lovefest nation? What exactly is that? Does that mean my peoples get to do whatever the hell they want? Because that's normally how I lean.

But I seem to appear as a Socialist Libertarian, with taxes, government programs, yet tons of freedom. Weird stuff, but I'm liking my nation, very balanced, with superb civil rights and political freedoms, and a strong economy.
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[quote name='Jamie_B' post='352671' date='Sep 27 2006, 06:32 PM']UN Vote, should we outlaw necrophilia? Im of the yes opinion, I mean we dont want stealers fans in our area.[/quote]

I'm all for outlawing it too. We're a very liberal people, but that's just gross.

The Democratic Republic of The ChosenOne is the new Regional Delegate (but hasn't been active in 5 days).

I'd like to hear how they are planning to vote.
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i was having problems with corporations running things and dominating politics... i decided to ban political contributions from all corporations...

that did the trick!!! B) they can't even advertise in papers now... i wish that was the case now :thumbsup:

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[quote name='BengalsCat' post='353137' date='Sep 28 2006, 09:27 AM']Fuck. We need a new Deligate.... Who is still active at a good pace once everyday to 2 days??

Can I get a sound off and lets take a vote?[/quote]

I usually check my nation at least once a day (even if briefly)... every two on the very outside.

Anyone else?
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[quote name='Boomer07' post='353161' date='Sep 28 2006, 09:42 AM']I usually check my nation at least once a day (even if briefly)... every two on the very outside.

Anyone else?[/quote]

usually every day... but then again, i'm not in the UN [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/19.gif[/img]
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I check my nation, Abandejo's status, every day, usually twice a day.
It is quite interesting how convoluted the results of your decisions can make your country's outlook if you don't read them carefully. many are smokescreens that have a legitimate subject, but then are hijacked in the last sentence.
Why do we need a new delegate? I thought Jamie B was ours?
Well, if we need a new one, I'm in the UN and run my country pretty fairly.
And i vote NO on necrophelia. I can't even believe that it's an issue, quite frankly.
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The Kingdom of Skinnee
"It's all we got to give, so we give it all we got"


UN Category: Democratic Socialists
Civil Rights:
Below Average Economy:
Fair Political Freedoms:
Very Good

Location: Go Bengals Regional Influence: Minnow

The Kingdom of Skinnee is a tiny, environmentally stunning nation, renowned for its compulsory military service. Its hard-nosed, intelligent population of 5 million are fiercely patriotic and enjoy great social equality; they tend to view other, more capitalist countries as somewhat immoral and corrupt.

The government -- a sprawling, bureaucracy-choked morass -- juggles the competing demands of Law & Order, Healthcare, and Social Welfare. The average income tax rate is 41%, but much higher for the wealthy. A small private sector is dominated by the Retail industry.

Crime -- especially youth-related -- is relatively low, thanks to a well-funded police force. Skinnee's national animal is the bengal tiger, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests, and its currency is the jay.
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[quote name='Bunghole' post='353171' date='Sep 28 2006, 09:50 AM']I check my nation, Abandejo's status, every day, usually twice a day.
It is quite interesting how convoluted the results of your decisions can make your country's outlook if you don't read them carefully. many are smokescreens that have a legitimate subject, but then are hijacked in the last sentence.
Why do we need a new delegate? I thought Jamie B was ours?
Well, if we need a new one, I'm in the UN and run my country pretty fairly.
And i vote NO on necrophelia. I can't even believe that it's an issue, quite frankly.[/quote]

Yeah i know. I did one on gay marriage and it was really a smokescreen for the anti gay marriage people. It basically said that people were fuckign there pets because 2 dudes could share health insurance.
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[quote name='Bunghole' post='353171' date='Sep 28 2006, 09:50 AM']I check my nation, Abandejo's status, every day, usually twice a day.
It is quite interesting how convoluted the results of your decisions can make your country's outlook if you don't read them carefully. many are smokescreens that have a legitimate subject, but then are hijacked in the last sentence.
Why do we need a new delegate? I thought Jamie B was ours?
Well, if we need a new one, I'm in the UN and run my country pretty fairly.
And i vote NO on necrophelia. I can't even believe that it's an issue, quite frankly.[/quote]

We are willing to give you our endorsement for now, if you're up for it.

If you do become the delegate, please keep us up to date on how you are planning on voting on current proposals.

I believe that the delegate also has unique ability to vote on whether an issue goes to vote in the UN at all. We would also be interested to hear what proposals are up for debate amongst the all of the UN Delegates throughout the world.
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Since The Democratic Republic of The ChosenOne has not yet voted on the necrophelia resolution.

We have joined The Republic of Abandejo in endorsing The Rogue Nation of Jamie_B to be our Regional Delegate (again, for now).

That gives Jamie_B two endorsements to The ChosenOne's single endorsement. The change of power is pending a UN update, so hopefully that will go through before the voting on this resolution closes, so our regional voice can be heard. -_-

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[quote name='Boomer07' post='354479' date='Sep 29 2006, 09:26 PM']Since The Democratic Republic of The ChosenOne has not yet voted on the necrophelia resolution.

We have joined The Republic of Abandejo in endorsing The Rogue Nation of Jamie_B to be our Regional Delegate (again, for now).

That gives Jamie_B two endorsements to The ChosenOne's single endorsement. The change of power is pending a UN update, so hopefully that will go through before the voting on this resolution closes, so our regional voice can be heard. -_-[/quote]
I am quite interested to see how much of a regional influence we can become. I wish there was some actual way to interact with other nations, like trading, alliances, wars, etc, etc. I don't really want to read their forums, I already spend two hours a day here.

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[quote name='Bunghole' post='354834' date='Sep 30 2006, 05:54 PM']I am quite interested to see how much of a regional influence we can become. I wish there was some actual way to interact with other nations, like trading, alliances, wars, etc, etc. I don't really want to read their forums, I already spend two hours a day here.[/quote]

Trading aliances, wars etc are all done by Role-playing in the Nationstates forums. I'm not really all that interested in doing that either. However, it could be done, on a regional level, here in this forum.


I think our regional influence is based on not only the size of our countries, but how strong of a voice we have in the UN.

If all of the UN nations in our region (now six) were to endorse a single Delegate, that Delegate would carry six votes in the UN (his own, plus the five endosements). Then, if all of our UN nations voted likewise individually, we would, as a region, carry eleven votes in the UN (the missing twelfth vote would be whoever the Delegate has endorsed). Still small potatoes, for the time being, but hopefully, we could encourage more nations in the region to join the UN and get more involved in world affairs.

Go Bengals Nations Unite!

Anyway, here's the latest resolution up for debate:

[quote]Freedom of Assembly
A resolution to increase democratic freedoms.


Category: The Furtherment of Democracy
Strength: Mild
Proposed by: Mikitivity

Description:
The NationStates United Nations,

CONVINCED that the expression of different political opinions is crucial to the democratic process,

TAKING NOTE of article 3 of its resolution The Universal Bill of Rights, which grants individuals the right to peacefully assemble,

APPALLED that in some extreme cases the expression of these opinions has moved from political expressions into actual physical acts, sometimes resulting in harm to other people or the destruction of public or private property,

AWARE that the reaction towards the harm of others or the destruction of public or private property has been to not only restrict these acts, but to also discourage the expression of extreme differences in opinion and to prohibit the formation of political opposition groups,

1. REAFFIRMS the equal right of individuals to freely express any opinions in a political process, provided that these opinions do not result in harm to other people or to public or private property without consent,

2. ASSERTS that individuals should have the right to freely assemble with others who share even extreme political views in appropriate venues, in order to better work within domestic and international political systems in a peaceful way,

3. CONFIRMS that the right to assembly includes the formation and coordination of political opposition organizations, which should be permitted to advocate radical changes in their existing government or political system,

4. CONDEMNS any political organization that advocates harm to other people or to public or private property as a means to spread terror or to gain political influence,

5. CALLS UPON political organizations to seek political change through peaceful means, and

6. ENCOURAGES national governments to open their elections and political process to any political organization that is seeking to voice its opinions through peaceful means.

Votes For: 687

Votes Against: 196

Voting Ends: Thu Oct 5 2006[/quote]

We certainly intend to vote in favor of this resolution. I hope we can get more UN members involved this time around.
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