Marvin Posted November 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 As you point out, he's a large guy and therefore no ballerina. But similar to Glenn he's playing out of position and could move inside to RG and fill Bobbie's role. I've only seen 10-15 of ISU's offensive series this year, so I'll defer to your opinion but I've been impressed with his ability to move people when run blocking. Against pass rushers, his long arms and even longer kick step seem to mitigate some of the foot speed issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egg Shen Posted November 4, 2011 Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 [img]http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Vontaze-Burfict.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Posted November 4, 2011 Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 That's a BA picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jungletiger Posted November 4, 2011 Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 Egg you get a +1 I totally man crush him to be a Bengal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted November 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 That is a sweet picture. It'll be ironic, though, if we draft him, put him at SLB while he learns to stop over pursuing (which he does) and learns how to call the defenses and then call for his ouster seven games into his third season and first back at his natural position. Give Rey a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 4, 2011 Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 I just don't see linebacker as a big enough need to take Burfict where he is projected to go. Rey has been solid at MLB and getting better. Lawson played better and I expect him to continue improving. And we still have Moch. Plus we have not had a lot of success with position changes. If he somehow slides to our second round pick I'd think about it just for the value. But LB is low on my priority list, and would prefer a "natural" SLB if we do take one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alleycat Posted November 4, 2011 Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 Just to stir the pot. Found this on another board. Very interesting metrics on our CB's this season: [size=3]From STATS LLC, Nate Clements: Targets: 55 Completions: 23 Yards 299 TDs 2 YPA 5.43 Leon Hall: Targets: 36 Completions: 21 Yards 300 TDs 2 YPA 8.33 [/size]Contrary to popular opinion, and more in line with what my eyes have been telling me, Leon is our 2nd best corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted November 4, 2011 Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 [quote name='Jason' timestamp='1320438282' post='1055938'] I just don't see linebacker as a big enough need to take Burfict where he is projected to go. Rey has been solid at MLB and getting better. Lawson played better and I expect him to continue improving. And we still have Moch. Plus we have not had a lot of success with position changes. If he somehow slides to our second round pick I'd think about it just for the value. But LB is low on my priority list, and would prefer a "natural" SLB if we do take one. [/quote] agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egg Shen Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 [quote name='Jason' timestamp='1320438282' post='1055938'] I just don't see linebacker as a big enough need to take Burfict where he is projected to go. Rey has been solid at MLB and getting better. Lawson played better and I expect him to continue improving. And we still have Moch. Plus we have not had a lot of success with position changes. If he somehow slides to our second round pick I'd think about it just for the value. But LB is low on my priority list, and would prefer a "natural" SLB if we do take one. [/quote] Well a lot Bengals fans didn't want AJ Green because we had Simpson, Caldwell, and Shipley, but that has turned out well. I think Rey is set in stone in the middle, but Burflict could be an upgrade at either outside linebacker position within a few seasons. Plus it would give us depth and a killer rotation right away, kind of like what we have with the D-line. Plus, he would give us some attitude like what Harrison gives the Steelers, or Ray gives Ravens, or Suh gives the Lions. I think he would be Burflict for our defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 [quote name='Egg Shen' timestamp='1320456025' post='1056106'] Well a lot Bengals fans didn't want AJ Green because [b]we had Simpson, Caldwell, and Shipley,[/b] but that has turned out well. I think Rey is set in stone in the middle, but Burflict could be an upgrade at either outside linebacker position within a few seasons. Plus it would give us depth and a killer rotation right away, kind of like what we have with the D-line. Plus, he would give us some attitude like what Harrison gives the Steelers, or Ray gives Ravens, or Suh gives the Lions. I think he would be Burflict for our defense. [/quote] Simpson and Caldwell had done almost nothing, and Shipley isn't remotely a #1. WR was a need. LB is not. Guard, RB, SS, and possibly CB are all ahead of LB on my list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 [quote name='Jason' timestamp='1320499226' post='1056192'] Simpson and Caldwell had done almost nothing, and Shipley isn't remotely a #1. WR was a need. LB is not. Guard, RB, SS, and possibly CB are all ahead of LB on my list. [/quote] Rey hasn't done too much yet either. Not that I would want to replace him, but Caldwell had about the same success as Rey. If Vontaze is BPA, I think they take a long hard look. He brings some nastiness that we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted November 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 Davin Megget-RB-Maryland Marvin McNutt-WR-Iowa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 Boom is running really good today and from everything I've heard, Boom is a GREAT kid. Big-time team player and really approachable on campus, the anti-Pryor. Great vision. I just wish he had the size and speed to go with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egg Shen Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 [quote name='Jason' timestamp='1320499226' post='1056192'] Simpson and Caldwell had done almost nothing, and Shipley isn't remotely a #1. WR was a need. LB is not. Guard, RB, SS, and possibly CB are all ahead of LB on my list. [/quote] Well I don't think you'll have to worry about Burflict anyway because unless the Raiders flop, I think we'll be drafting too late to get him. Besides that, I like Courtney Upshaw better anyway. He's somebody that can fill that Peter Boulware role that Marvin has been looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 anyone else stuck with crappy games this week? I haven't had a single SEC game and have had the likes of louisville/west virginia on TWO channels, ball state vs eastern michigan, no ESPN2, ABC or Fox game, Texas/Texas Tech on FX and I don't even know what was on fox sports ohio. Some division 3 game or something. Now I'm getting army/air force on CBS instead of a SEC game. Do a lot of teams have byes this week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted November 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 Firstrowsports has every game. Though, some of the feeds are unwatchable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 Secretly, I hope Trent has a quite game tonight. If he blows up, his stock is going to skyrocket. This is practically the natty game tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 [quote name='JC' timestamp='1320526550' post='1056267'] Secretly, I hope Trent has a quite game tonight. If he blows up, his stock is going to skyrocket. This is practically the natty game tonight. [/quote] I'm not sure it can really go any higher at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 Sure it could. Go off on the number 1 team in the nation to basically put your team into the Natty ship would put a lot more spotlight on him. Could make him the frontrunner for the heisman. Could solidify himself as a top 10 for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 Bama's kicker is killing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted November 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 Burfict is a complete maniac. I'm warming to him, need or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 [b]Arkansas[/b] RB Dennis Johnson WR Jarius Wright [b]LSU[/b] WR Rueben Randle [b]Alabama[/b] DT Josh Chapman DE/DT Jess Williams LT Barrett Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 I haven't watched him play live, but NFP just tweeted that they liked this guy more than Broyles. Hot Damn, they may be right. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faqfXBtF50I[/media] Ran a 4.25 before he missed the 2010 season with a foot injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted November 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Griff Whalen-WR-Stanford- Luck's favorite target is named Whalen again. Catches everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Kuwann Short, DT Purdue Tavon Austin, WR West Virginia Isiah Pead, RB Cincinnati Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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