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http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/kentucky-bans-postgame-handshakes-high-school-sports-khsaa-fines-additional-penalties-100813

 

The Kentucky High School Athletic Association, the governing body for all high school sports throughout the state, on Tuesday ordered all high schools to no longer conduct postgame handshakes due to an increase in violence in these postgame events — "more than two dozen [incidents] in the last three years in Kentucky alone" according to the KHSAA.

 

In a "Commissioner's Directive" posted on its website, the KHSAA referred to the handshakes as "traditions" and said that "fights and physical conflicts have broken out" to the point that, "in our state alone, incidents in soccer, football and volleyball have occurred this fall."

 

The post went on to put more of the blame on the adults than on the players ("And this can be particularly problematic when there is a lack of an appropriate level of adult supervision, or counterproductive actions by the adults involved with the team."). So after a board meeting, the KHSAA banned postgame handshakes in baseball, basketball, football, soccer, softball, volleyball and wrestling — but with a catch.

 

While the KHSAA is announcing the ban, it is not administering its enforcement at the time the games end. Rather, opposing teams can still choose to have postgame handshakes but if a fight breaks out, it's not on the KHSAA; it's on the coaches and the officials, if they choose to stay. In fact, the statement posted in the largest, boldest font is this one:

 

Henceforth, any incidents by an individual squad member (including coaches) or group of squad members that results in unsporting acts immediately following the contest will result in a fine against the member school athletic program, and additional penalties against the individuals or schools as deemed appropriate following investigation."

 

Kentucky.com spoke with KHSAA commissioner Julian Tackett, who said the order was "much ado about nothing," but added, "You're on notice, if you're going to do this, you're going to be accountable."

 

The site also reported that the language in the directive was softened from an earlier version, citing criticism on social media. One high school coach told the site that he had already been told by his principal not to take part in postgame handshakes. "I think it's sad, but I understand," Mason County football coach David Buchanan said.

 

But is this act truly "much ado about nothing," as Tackett said, or does Kentucky have a real problem on its hands?

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The commissioner's directive;

 

http://khsaa.org/10082013-commissioners-directive-on-postgame-activity/

 

For those that may choose to read only the first few lines, it is worth reiteration. THERE IS NO BAN OR PROHIBITION ON POSTGAME HANDSHAKES. Has not been considered, contemplated or reviewed as an option.

 

Several sports have “traditions” regarding postgame handshakes, etc. by team members (both en masse and as individuals), but none of them have such action dictated by playing rules. While it is an obvious sign of sportsmanship and civility, many incidents have occurred both in Kentucky (more than two dozen in the last three years in Kentucky alone) and throughout the country, where fights and physical conflicts have broken out during these postgame handshakes. And this is not restricted to specific sports. In our state alone, incidents in soccer, football and volleyball have occurred this fall.

 

Unfortunately, the adrenaline and effort required to participate in the sport sometimes seems to deplete the supply of judgement available to participants. And this can be particularly problematic when there is a lack of an appropriate level of adult supervision, or counterproductive actions by the adults involved with the team. After consultation with the Board of Control at its last meeting, the Commissioner is issuing the following directives to officials and recommendations to the schools and officials regarding post game in baseball, basketball, football, soccer, softball, volleyball and wrestling:

Following the contests, officials are to quickly and efficiently leave the playing facility following all rules mandated duties and ensure that the rules book mandated jurisdiction ends promptly. There is no need for officials to secure the game balls, shake hands with the coaches or players, or stick around the playing area for any other reason.

Officials have no role in what goes on in postgame, including handshakes, etc. after jurisdiction has ended. Officials also have NO role in administering this policy. Officials choosing to involve themselves in postgame activities will be penalized appropriately;

Game management and the administration of the participating team(s) are solely responsible for what happens after the contest is concluded.

Certain interaction is required by the NFHS playing rules (i.e. the awarding of a bout winner in wrestling). Other postgame rituals such as handshakes, etc. must be closely monitored by school officials and are not a part of the game regulated by game officials.  However, any unsportsmanlike conduct occurring during this time will subject the coach/player to penalties and discipline; and
The coaches and administration of the teams are always responsible for the individual conduct of the members of the team following the contest and shall be held accountable for such.

 

Henceforth, any incidents by an individual squad member (including coaches) or group of squad members that results in unsporting acts immediately following the contest will result in a penalty against the member school athletic program, and additional penalties against the individuals or schools as deemed appropriate following investigation.

 

It is disappointing that this action has become necessary, but enough incidents have occurred both in our state and in others, that the necessity has arrived.

 

DIRECT COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONER (4pm Oct 8):

 

“It is regrettable that a few key individuals apparently have chosen to read small participles of the note above, versus the entirety of the directive and reminder, so I feel the necessity to add specific comments. And admittedly, two totally related paragraphs were not immediately adjacent and that may have caused some people to stop reading at one point, and then not follow through with the rest of the post.

 

Nothing about this situation is etched in stone as far as post game procedures. As the document states, the schools continue to have the option to have postgame handshakes as always, provided they are properly supervised. That was the first part of two main intentions. The first, was to reinforce the requirement for supervision. Unfortunately, for whatever reason, all involved in contests seem to be more aggressive immediately after the contests are concluded and winning with honor and dignity (and losing the same way) doesn’t seem to be being instilled across the board.

 

Sometimes, these attitudes and lack of supervision have resulted in fights/altercations/incidents during postgame periods. In Kentucky alone, this has happened more than two dozen times in the last three years. So the directive to the member schools is simple. Don’t do it, UNLESS you can properly supervise it. And if you don’t supervise it (or if you do and problems occur) then you will be held accountable.

 

Secondly, and just as critical, don’t expect the officials to police this time period. That has NEVER been the officials’ job at the high school level, and shouldn’t be now.

It’s really that simple. Sportsmanship and civility remain hallmark values. It is my hope that all schools can provide the proper supervision and accountability to continue these types of activities. But if they can’t, then stop doing them.”

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Basically this all comes down to parents and teahcers not disciplining children anymore. Spare the rod type stuff, ya know?! The further we get away from allowing parents to spank a child or allow a teacher to discipline them this shit is going to get worse and worse. I don't give a flying fuck what anyone says, teachers should be allowed to discipline the kids, even if that calls for sending them to the principals office for a swat. Fuck yeah, baby, bring back the paddle!!

MULLY

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Basically this all comes down to parents and teahcers not disciplining children anymore. Spare the rod type stuff, ya know?! The further we get away from allowing parents to spank a child or allow a teacher to discipline them this shit is going to get worse and worse. I don't give a flying fuck what anyone says, teachers should be allowed to discipline the kids, even if that calls for sending them to the principals office for a swat. Fuck yeah, baby, bring back the paddle!!

MULLY

 

 

Serious question as the topic never came up in conversation:  What is the stance on corporal punishment in Japan?

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Serious question as the topic never came up in conversation:  What is the stance on corporal punishment in Japan?

 

I know this question wasn't for me, but based on my extensive research it is traditionally administered by angry cephalopods or giant, heavily-armed robots.

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