Pope Francis died

[Jamie_B]

2 hours ago, T-Dub said:

 

 

The MAGAts sure seem mad about it, which is probably good, but they're mad about anything that's not sucking Trump's balls or hate crimes so the bar couldn't be much lower.  Already see them calling him a Marxist, which seems to be their new scare word after running liberal/socialist/communist/progressive into the ground.

 

You'd think a bunch of weird old white men in gaudy costumes sending smoke signals as a form of governance might appeal to them but they're also foreign so it must be bad.

 

 

This is the new Pope, he tweeted this a few weeks ago. 

 

 

[T-Dub]

1 hour ago, Jamie_B said:

 

 

This is the new Pope, he tweeted this a few weeks ago. 

 

 

 

 

Oh, well that makes perfect sense for people that think a Marxist is anyone that's not a fawning sycophant for JD fuckin' Vance, of all people.  Praise Trump. Amen.

 

[T-Dub]

[Jamie_B]

1 hour ago, T-Dub said:

 

 

Oh, well that makes perfect sense for people that think a Marxist is anyone that's not a fawning sycophant for JD fuckin' Vance, of all people.  Praise Trump. Amen.

 

 

 

 

When you kill one Pope and God answers you with the guy that was critical of you weeks before.

 

God 1 

Vance 0

[claptonrocks]

8 hours ago, T-Dub said:

 

 

The MAGAts sure seem mad about it, which is probably good, but they're mad about anything that's not sucking Trump's balls or hate crimes so the bar couldn't be much lower.  Already see them calling him a Marxist, which seems to be their new scare word after running liberal/socialist/communist/progressive into the ground.

 

You'd think a bunch of weird old white men in gaudy costumes sending smoke signals as a form of governance might appeal to them but they're also foreign so it must be bad.

Our Great President Trump gave his approval to this moderate thinking Pope..

Hope all works out for the Catholics after suffering this last evil Pope.

Work on pedofilia under a new regimen instead of the weak nonsense rhetoric the last idiot preached or served to.

Sure wasn't Christianity...

 

[T-Dub]

3 hours ago, claptonrocks said:

Our Great President Trump gave his approval to this moderate thinking Pope..

Hope all works out for the Catholics after suffering this last evil Pope.

Work on pedofilia under a new regimen instead of the weak nonsense rhetoric the last idiot preached or served to.

Sure wasn't Christianity...

 

 

Trump is on Lolita Express flight records of his "good friend" Epstein at least 7 times.  One of their most outspoken victims was recruited as a teen working at his resort.  He produced teen beauty pageants and openly bragged about barging into their dressing rooms. He's a rapist that gloated about getting away with sexual assault because he's famous. You voted for and devotedly serve an obvious pedophile.

 

Anyone that challenges your master you call "evil".   The rest of the world can see where true evil lies, and those that follow it without hesitation.

 

Your opinions on what qualifies as Christianity are as useless as everything else you post here.  You are no Christian.

 

If there is such a thing as an Antichrist, you are in service to him. 

 

Figure your shit out or continue to ride Trump's dick into the abyss.

[claptonrocks]

5 hours ago, T-Dub said:

 

Trump is on Lolita Express flight records of his "good friend" Epstein at least 7 times.  One of their most outspoken victims was recruited as a teen working at his resort.  He produced teen beauty pageants and openly bragged about barging into their dressing rooms. He's a rapist that gloated about getting away with sexual assault because he's famous. You voted for and devotedly serve an obvious pedophile.

 

Anyone that challenges your master you call "evil".   The rest of the world can see where true evil lies, and those that follow it without hesitation.

 

Your opinions on what qualifies as Christianity are as useless as everything else you post here.  You are no Christian.

 

If there is such a thing as an Antichrist, you are in service to him. 

 

Figure your shit out or continue to ride Trump's dick into the abyss.

Once again you go nowhere with any credibility 

waa waa waa...

U still suck a pacifier?...

Demented you are.

 

[Jamie_B]

8 hours ago, claptonrocks said:

Our Great President Trump gave his approval to this moderate thinking Pope..

Hope all works out for the Catholics after suffering this last evil Pope.

Work on pedofilia under a new regimen instead of the weak nonsense rhetoric the last idiot preached or served to.

Sure wasn't Christianity...

 

 

Ah yes the protect the poor and immigrant, not Christianity.

 

You sure you want to get into this? I'm pretty well equipt here.

[Jamie_B]

Personally I love this about the new "moderate" Pope.

 

[Jamie_B]

7 hours ago, T-Dub said:

 

Trump is on Lolita Express flight records of his "good friend" Epstein at least 7 times.  One of their most outspoken victims was recruited as a teen working at his resort.  He produced teen beauty pageants and openly bragged about barging into their dressing rooms. He's a rapist that gloated about getting away with sexual assault because he's famous. You voted for and devotedly serve an obvious pedophile.

 

Anyone that challenges your master you call "evil".   The rest of the world can see where true evil lies, and those that follow it without hesitation.

 

Your opinions on what qualifies as Christianity are as useless as everything else you post here.  You are no Christian.

 

If there is such a thing as an Antichrist, you are in service to him. 

 

Figure your shit out or continue to ride Trump's dick into the abyss.

 

 

It's not evil when Dear Leader does it.

[Homer_Rice]

8 hours ago, claptonrocks said:

Our Great President Trump gave his approval to this moderate thinking Pope..

Hope all works out for the Catholics after suffering this last evil Pope.

Work on pedofilia under a new regimen instead of the weak nonsense rhetoric the last idiot preached or served to.

Sure wasn't Christianity...

 

Lookit, you don't know shit about shit. I'm gonna say it plainly: You Are A Fascist. Not in the doctrinal sense, but in the fawning, illiterate, and immoral sense. You are not the guy who thought up the SS, you are the type of bestial excuse for a human that joins the SS. You think your voice matters. It does not. You are an enemy of the human species.

[claptonrocks]

29 minutes ago, Homer_Rice said:

Lookit, you don't know shit about shit. I'm gonna say it plainly: You Are A Fascist. Not in the doctrinal sense, but in the fawning, illiterate, and immoral sense. You are not the guy who thought up the SS, you are the type of bestial excuse for a human that joins the SS. You think your voice matters. It does not. You are an enemy of the human species.

I'm so done with you .

 

[Homer_Rice]

1 hour ago, Jamie_B said:

Personally I love this about the new "moderate" Pope.

I was baptized and raised as an Episcopalian. Altar boy, all that stuff. Over time, I've since changed my theological views to something more akin to Platonism: I consider myself a hylozoic monist who does not believe that there is an anthropomorphic aspect to divinity. In other words, I don't believe there is a "Being in the Sky" who pays any attention to human affairs--collectively or individually-- and hence, all attempts to propitiate such a divine being are futile, juvenile, and essentially pagan. As Shakespeare said: "The fault, Dear Brutus..." But then again, Cassius was an oligarch. So, he identifies the problem, but misses the point.

 

My mother is 91 this month. Feeble, frail, I'm now (and have been for some years) taking care of her. Her mind is pretty gone, sadly. She is but a shadow of the woman who instilled in me the desire to learn, to improve my understanding, and whom is responsible for much of that within me is good (and it's my fault alone for the bad.) She is still a pretty devout Episcopalian and I take her to church as often as she feels like going. It's a nice church, the people are mostly honorable and fine folks, some of whom are my friends. So I occasionally take part when my Mom goes to church dinners, etc... .But I do not attend the services. Every once in a while someones asks me why. So I tell them it is a matter of principle. The Anglican Church renounced the filioque within the Nicene Creed in the 70s, although it did allow for individual churches to keep it. But if you look in the Episcopalian Book of Common Prayer, you'll find brackets around this part of the Nicene Creed.

 

It is my belief that the concept of the filioque is an essential element of any form of Christianity for philosophical reasons. There is a long history of debate on this, going back to the early days of Christianity. After a lot of research and thought, I chose my side long ago.

 

Now Jamie is right, new Popes often select a name which gives some indication of their philosophical leanings and in this case, it's pretty interesting. I'll be reading through Leo XIII's papal bulls in the coming weeks, but I already know of this letter from my earlier consideration of the filioque: It is Apostolicae curae and it has many of the same objections about Anglicanism that I do.

 

Are you a human, or not? And what does that mean? As Socrates said; "The unexamined life is not worth leading."

[Homer_Rice]

13 minutes ago, claptonrocks said:

I'm so done with you .

 

Of course you are. But I haven't forgotten your response to the genocide in Gaza, you murderous bastard. Unforgivable. That people even talk to you like you are a normal human being is because they haven't thought of holding you accountable for your views. I do.

[Jamie_B]

12 hours ago, Homer_Rice said:

I was baptized and raised as an Episcopalian. Altar boy, all that stuff. Over time, I've since changed my theological views to something more akin to Platonism: I consider myself a hylozoic monist who does not believe that there is an anthropomorphic aspect to divinity. In other words, I don't believe there is a "Being in the Sky" who pays any attention to human affairs--collectively or individually-- and hence, all attempts to propitiate such a divine being are futile, juvenile, and essentially pagan. As Shakespeare said: "The fault, Dear Brutus..." But then again, Cassius was an oligarch. So, he identifies the problem, but misses the point.

 

My mother is 91 this month. Feeble, frail, I'm now (and have been for some years) taking care of her. Her mind is pretty gone, sadly. She is but a shadow of the woman who instilled in me the desire to learn, to improve my understanding, and whom is responsible for much of that within me is good (and it's my fault alone for the bad.) She is still a pretty devout Episcopalian and I take her to church as often as she feels like going. It's a nice church, the people are mostly honorable and fine folks, some of whom are my friends. So I occasionally take part when my Mom goes to church dinners, etc... .But I do not attend the services. Every once in a while someones asks me why. So I tell them it is a matter of principle. The Anglican Church renounced the filioque within the Nicene Creed in the 70s, although it did allow for individual churches to keep it. But if you look in the Episcopalian Book of Common Prayer, you'll find brackets around this part of the Nicene Creed.

 

It is my belief that the concept of the filioque is an essential element of any form of Christianity for philosophical reasons. There is a long history of debate on this, going back to the early days of Christianity. After a lot of research and thought, I chose my side long ago.

 

Now Jamie is right, new Popes often select a name which gives some indication of their philosophical leanings and in this case, it's pretty interesting. I'll be reading through Leo XIII's papal bulls in the coming weeks, but I already know of this letter from my earlier consideration of the filioque: It is Apostolicae curae and it has many of the same objections about Anglicanism that I do.

 

Are you a human, or not? And what does that mean? As Socrates said; "The unexamined life is not worth leading."

 

 

My parents met at Mt. Vernon Nazarene College in Mt. Vernon, Ohio (after Dad turned down a full ride to Eastman School of Music in Rochester NY, one of the top Music Schools in the country, for his voice. Didn't like the big city of Rochester, ironically, he would go on to join the Army and go to many big cities). So we grew up having a Nazarene background, but with Dad being in the Army, all the on-base churches were typically non-denominational. My formative years when we lived in Nuremberg we would go to the Army Hospital behind the apartments we lived in and go to those services, so I had no real connection to being a Nazarene or even understood the differences between it and other denominations growing up, would only later find out the main differences after going to a Baptist college when I first went off to school (would later drop out and go to George Mason, and glad I did) here in Virginia. Yes, that one. I had no idea about the founder, and who he was or their political ideals, I was just a naive 19-year-old who wanted to avoid all the worldly partying that went on on normal college campuses (ironically I would partake in at least some of that later after leaving the university). That experience formed my pushback on the ideals that people like Clapton and other right-wing ideologues. It's ironic when you are forced to spend time in the word to only find out much of what these people preach is Anti-Jesus. Much like the Pharisees there are good people there but they should be pushed back against like Jesus did to the Pharisees, but there are also some very evil and manipulative people there that are entirely about having power (also like the Pharisees). It's why I say people like Ralph Reed and his ilk are pure evil. 

These days I've all but left the weekly Baptist church in favor of a men's bible Study with a bunch of millennials here in DC, one of the guys who was in it at one time went to an even more conservative university than I did, much of us call ourselves "recovering", because as it turns out when you pay particular attention to the Red Letters, this Jesus guy was far more radical than the modern church and alot more radical than these "moderate" Popes, so when I see the ones like Francis and now Leo remind us about Jesus' charge to defend the poor and the immigrant, I am heartened. Hell if Clapton really wants to get into it I can point out a verse that sounds like some of the early Christians were basically Communists before that word existed, but like I said he doesn't really want to get into this.

[HereSince68]

On 5/8/2025 at 2:02 PM, Jamie_B said:

New Pope is American. 

 

Cardinal Robert Prevost, will be named Pope Leo XIV

AND HE'S BLACK!!! Even more of a reason for that trump guy in the group to hate him

 

https://www.ncronline.org/news/white-smoke-black-pope-genealogist-says-leo-xiv-has-louisiana-african-roots

[Jamie_B]

11 hours ago, HereSince68 said:

AND HE'S BLACK!!! Even more of a reason for that trump guy in the group to hate him

 

https://www.ncronline.org/news/white-smoke-black-pope-genealogist-says-leo-xiv-has-louisiana-african-roots

 

I'd be interested in how much of the world's population is black if we trace things back far enough. It is the birthplace of civilization. 🙂

[T-Dub]

8 hours ago, Jamie_B said:

 

I'd be interested in how much of the world's population is black if we trace things back far enough. It is the birthplace of civilization. 🙂

 

 

Affordable genetic testing is almost as troublesome for white supremacists as their inability to separate race from nationality or being within 500 feet of a school or playground.

[T-Dub]

 

[claptonrocks]

On 5/14/2025 at 6:17 PM, T-Dub said:

 

Lay the fuck down ..

God your such an evil demonic being.

No humanity in your lifeless soul.

Your dead inside.

 

Your an atheist but follow Muslim as a crutch for your simpleton mind.

You really are a pathetic creature..

[T-Dub]

2 hours ago, claptonrocks said:

Lay the fuck down ..

God your such an evil demonic being.

No humanity in your lifeless soul.

Your dead inside.

 

Your an atheist but follow Muslim as a crutch for your simpleton mind.

You really are a pathetic creature..

 

 

LMAO triggered much?  It's your holy book, I didn't write it.  Maybe you should pray on it IDK

[Jamie_B]

8 hours ago, claptonrocks said:

Lay the fuck down ..

God your such an evil demonic being.

No humanity in your lifeless soul.

Your dead inside.

 

Your an atheist but follow Muslim as a crutch for your simpleton mind.

You really are a pathetic creature..

 

 

I've posted the same video elsewhere and posted it as a Jesus loving man.

 

Because that is the version of Jesus the GOP is now. 

 

Certainly not Christan.

 

Which would be fine as we are supposed to keep our Church and State separate, but when the GOP wants to court Christian Nationalist, expect pushback because Christian Nationlism..... IS. NOT. CHRISTIAN.

[T-Dub]

6 hours ago, Jamie_B said:

 

 

I've posted the same video elsewhere and posted it as a Jesus loving man.

 

Because that is the version of Jesus the GOP is now. 

 

Certainly not Christan.

 

Which would be fine as we are supposed to keep our Church and State separate, but when the GOP wants to court Christian Nationalist, expect pushback because Christian Nationlism..... IS. NOT. CHRISTIAN.

 

I don't adhere to any particular religion but the Bible contains a lot of wisdom. The scriptures misquoted in that video are some of the highlights IMO.

 

Dude's unhinged reaction to it speaks volumes. Suddenly I'm a Muslim! Like that's some kind of insult!

 

Way to prove their point.