Jason Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Per ESPN. http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7371843/ncaa-announce-ohio-state-buckeyes-decision-tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 [url="https://twitter.com/#!/PDBuckeyes"]PDBuckeyes[/url]Doug Lesmerises On overall penalties, my take remains same as always. Don't expect much/any beyond what OSU has self-imposed, and do not expect bowl ban. [url="https://twitter.com/#!/PDBuckeyes/status/149136004652089345"]10 minutes ago[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewdog Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Wait a second...is this some kind of April fool's thread? I thought Ohio State got rid of their football program after last year. I sure as heck didn't hear anything about them all season long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 [quote name='Lewdog' timestamp='1324396608' post='1077370'] Wait a second...is this some kind of April fool's thread? I thought Ohio State got rid of their football program after last year. I sure as heck didn't hear anything about them all season long. [/quote] Just a brief hiatus. Now with Urban Renewal in Columbus you will hear a lot about them the next several years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 urban renewal is such an awful pun that it makes me feel uncomfortable when I hear it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Word is OSU is going to get a 1 year bowl ban for 2012 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 9 schollies and Jim Tressell is going to get knocked too. Cheaters.Any Juniors going pro now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Elflocko| Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 One year bowl ban (2012), cut additional scholarships. [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-ncaa-ohiost"]Ouch.[/url].. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 [quote name='MichaelWeston' timestamp='1324408798' post='1077421'] 9 schollies and Jim Tressell is going to get knocked too. Cheaters.Any Juniors going pro now? [/quote] There are 3 who might, but I'd be surprised if any did. Travis Howard didn't really play as well as he thought he would, but he's an athletic CB. He has the most to gain from coming back, but he would surprise me least if he came out. Zach Boren's stock probably would not change much with another year and he would be one of the top fullbacks coming out, but I think he returns. John Simon is the most draftable junior on the team, but he strikes me as a guy who will be back as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Simon is so undersized for a DT can he play End? Does he project to a 3-4 end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 [quote name='MichaelWeston' timestamp='1324414390' post='1077466'] Simon is so undersized for a DT can he play End? Does he project to a 3-4 end? [/quote] He played DE most of this season. And he may not be big, but he's strong as an ox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 [url="https://twitter.com/#!/PDBuckeyes"]PDBuckeyes[/url]Doug Lesmerises Meyer: "The NCAA penalties will serve as a reminder that the college experience does not include the behavior that led to these penalties" [url="https://twitter.com/#!/PDBuckeyes/status/149233460802879488"]20 seconds ago[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewdog Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 I guarantee Terrell Pryor goes pro as a junior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 [quote name='Jason' timestamp='1324414520' post='1077468'] He played DE most of this season. And he may not be big, but he's strong as an ox. [/quote] I dont remember him being especially athletic either. I do remember him being active and good but teams won't be clamoring over a 270lb slow DE. Ithink he actually might fit a team in a Jon Fanene role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 [quote name='MichaelWeston' timestamp='1324416049' post='1077485'] I dont remember him being especially athletic either. I do remember him being active and good but teams won't be clamoring over a 270lb slow DE. Ithink he actually might fit a team in a Jon Fanene role. [/quote] He's actually got decent speed and quickness (CBS lists him at 4.78 40 time). But, while his measurables (other than his strength) may not be elite, he's "a football player" and I wouldn't underestimate him. He is also absolutely relentless with his motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumble In the Jungle Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 OSU got screwed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 [quote name='Jason' timestamp='1324416444' post='1077491'] He's actually got decent speed and quickness (CBS lists him at 4.78 40 time). But, while his measurables (other than his strength) may not be elite, he's "a football player" and I wouldn't underestimate him. He is also absolutely relentless with his motor. [/quote] He always seemed like the typical college DL to me. Good enough to play anywhere on the line and make a difference. Too small and not quick enough to do anything special on the next level. Teams need Jon Fanenes though. From what I have seen that seems to be his ceiling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 [quote name='Rumble In the Jungle' timestamp='1324416741' post='1077492'] OSU got screwed! [/quote] Penn State will not receive any bowl bans for covering up years of child molestation. I guess the NCAA draws the line at free tattoos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewdog Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 [quote name='oldschooler' timestamp='1324475607' post='1077637'] Penn State will not receive any bowl bans for covering up years of child molestation. I guess the NCAA draws the line at free tattoos. [/quote] Maybe he was just recruiting? Is there a minimum age a recruit can be? ok ok...yeah what Sandusky did is morally reprehensible, but it didn't have anything to do with Penn State athletics. I think the negative attention it has brought Penn State alone will cause negative side effects for recruiting, advertising, and revenue. They will suffer punishment in one way or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Ethics v Laws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Elflocko| Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 [quote][b]Why doesnt Ohio State get it?[/b] [i]Updated Dec 21, 2011 10:42 AM ET[/i] FoxSports.com Why doesn't Ohio State get it? The Ohio State University still doesn’t get it. That’s the only way to explain athletic director Gene Smith’s asinine response Tuesday to the NCAA’s Committee on Infractions slapping the Buckeyes with a one-year post-season ban, the loss of nine scholarships over the next three years and three years of probation along with other penalties for football players receiving more than $16,400 in impermissible benefits. “We are surprised and disappointed with the NCAA’s decision,” Smith said in a statement. “However, we have decided not to appeal the decision because we need to move forward as an institution. We recognize that this is a challenging time in intercollegiate athletics. Institutions of higher education must move to higher ground, and Ohio State embraces its leadership responsibilities and affirms its long-standing commitment to excellence in education and integrity in all it does.” Hey, Gene, enough with the empty rhetoric, OK? As usual, you are in denial more than a third-world leader with eroding power. [img]http://o.static.foxsports.com/content/fscom/img/2011/12/20/122011-CFB-Ohio-State-Buckeyes-JW_20111220165410486_202_97.JPG[/img] You see, Ohio State’s Dumb (Smith) and Dumber (university president Gordon Gee) brain trust wanted the Committee on Infractions to accept its meager self-imposed penalties of vacating the 2010 season, returning approximately $340,000 in money from last season’s Sugar Bowl, going on probation for two years and having five fewer scholarships over the next three seasons, all conveniently WITHOUT A POSTSEASON BAN. Of course now that the Buckeyes can’t even compete for a Big Ten championship next season let alone a BCS title under new coach Urban Meyer, the clueless Smith is devastated by the much-deserved harsher penalties. A former member of the Committee on Infractions, he had maintained there was no way his program’s football team would receive any type of postseason ban. So instead of withdrawing itself from bowl consideration this season with the hope that would lessen its NCAA penalties, like the University of Miami smartly did under a storm of NCAA problems, Ohio State played on during a turbulent 6-6 campaign under interim coach Luke Fickell to claim a spot against Florida in the meaningless Gator Bowl on Jan. 2. Brilliant move, Dumb and Dumber, but it’s what we have come to expect from the dynamic duo of Smith and Gee. They have always been reactionary instead of proactive when it came to Tattoo-gate, a scandal in which players sold and traded sports memorabilia for more than $14,000 in cash and tattoos. And worst of all, Gee and Smith were arrogant throughout the embarrassing debacle. Don’t forget they still allowed former quarterback Terrelle Pryor and five other Buckeyes to play in last season’s insignificant Sugar Bowl after they were implicated in the scandal, even though the players were suspended for games this season. Gee and Smith also refused to fire former coach Jim Tressel and instead let him resign more than two months after he admitted to lying about his knowledge of players’ involvement in Tattoo-gate. (Cue Gee’s infamous, “I'm just hoping the coach doesn't dismiss me.”) Just like they let scandal poster boy Pryor leave the team instead of kicking him off it. So spare me all of Smith’s propaganda about Ohio State not appealing the NCAA’s ruling in light of this “challenging time.” If that’s a reference at all to the Penn State child sex-abuse scandal, it’s a disgusting insult to the victims. Smith’s talk of “institutions of higher education must move to higher ground” is hot air just like Ohio State’s “long-standing commitment to excellence . . . in integrity in all it does.” Hopefully, it’s true now, but it wasn’t as recently as five months ago. If it were, Ohio State wouldn’t have tried to low-ball the NCAA then with its self-imposed sanctions. NCAA president Mark Emmert though for the first time during his underwhelming tenure didn’t cower to power, profit and prestige, even though slightly harsher penalties for the Buckeyes wouldn’t have been out of line. For all of Dumb and Dumber’s follies, they did finally get something right by hiring Meyer last month. Based on Smith's word, he told recruits not to expect more penalties than what Ohio State had self-imposed. But even with NCAA uncertainty hanging over the Buckeyes, Meyer stole a couple of highly touted recruits from Big Ten foes and recently landed Noah Spence, the nation’s top defensive end according to Scout.com. Now, Meyer is forced to sacrifice next season to put Dumb and Dumber’s mistakes behind him. But beyond that, the man who won two BCS titles at Florida will be just fine managing the loss of scholarships and the negative stigma of probation. And unlike his bosses, Meyer does get it as evidenced by his statement Tuesday after Ohio State’s penalties were announced. “The NCAA penalties will serve as a reminder that the college experience does not include the behavior that led to these penalties,” Meyer said. “I expect all of us to work hard to teach and develop young student-athletes to grow responsibly and to become productive citizens in their communities upon graduation.” In Meyer’s second seasons of new jobs, he has done well. He won the Fiesta Bowl at Utah and his first national championship at Florida also came in his second season. That’s something for Ohio State fans to remember during the next year of sacrifice. Maybe by then, Dumb and Dumber will have finally gotten it — and lost their jobs.[/quote] I would agree with this article, particularly the last sentence, and have always thought Gee was a fucking idiot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 [quote name='Elflocko' timestamp='1324491618' post='1077704'] I would agree with this article, particularly the last sentence, and have always thought Gee was a fucking idiot... [/quote] Why is Gee an idiot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Elflocko| Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 [quote name='MichaelWeston' timestamp='1324492086' post='1077708'] Why is Gee an idiot? [/quote] [color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3] 3-8 bowl record and 2–10–1 vs Michigan. He never should have let Cooper stay as long as he did.[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3]That and the folks at Brown think he's a dipshit as well... [/size][/font][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewdog Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 [quote name='Elflocko' timestamp='1324493095' post='1077711'] [color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3]3-8 bowl record and 2–10–1 vs Michigan. He never should have let Cooper stay as long as he did.[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3]That and the folks at Brown think he's a dipshit as well... [/size][/font][/color] [/quote] I thought it was his Dahani Jones bow ties and those Mathew Lesko rimmed glasses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 [quote name='MichaelWeston' timestamp='1324491126' post='1077702'] Ethics v Laws [/quote] The players recieved FREE TATTOOS. This shit of you calling them cheaters and talking about ethics is asinine. All of the "culprits" are gone. Why punish everyone else for such a minor "crime"? Tressel will probably never coach again. I think everyone has been more than punished for their "crimes". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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