USN Bengal Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 It would also be nice if they let Dom Capers go and we could look at him for DC. [url="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22486591/"]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22486591/[/url] Dolphins fire Cameron after 1-15 season Parcells makes move, meaning Miami will have fifth coach in five seasons updated 3 minutes ago DAVIE, Fla. - Cam Cameron is no longer coach of the Miami Dolphins after getting only one win in his first season. Cameron was fired Thursday by new Dolphins’ boss Bill Parcells, which means the reeling franchise will have its fifth head coach in five seasons in 2008. Parcells began work Thursday as executive vice president of football operations and quickly concluded the Dolphins need another fresh start. It has been 37 years since the Dolphins fired a coach. But they never finished 1-15 before. Cameron was on the job 11 months before he earned his first victory as an NFL head coach. Until Miami beat Baltimore in overtime Dec. 16, he was in danger of becoming the first coach to go 0-16. Miami has missed the playoffs six consecutive seasons, a franchise record. Cameron signed a four-year contract in January. Owner Wayne Huizenga hired him over at least 12 other candidates after a two-week coaching search, the most extensive since the franchise’s first season in 1966. The early front-runner to replace Cameron is Cowboys assistant head coach Tony Sparano. He’s schedule to interview Friday for the head-coaching vacancy in Atlanta. Other coaches — including some good ones — have been fired after only one season with a team. The list includes Cameron mentor Marty Schottenheimer (Washington in 2001), Art Shell (Oakland in 2006) and Pete Carroll (New York Jets in 1994). Cameron maintained a consistently low-key demeanor with the media and his team. The even-keel approach won praise from the locker room during training camp, but as losses mounted, players became coy when asked if they believed in Cameron. He was hired after five years as offensive coordinator for the high-scoring San Diego Chargers, and the Dolphins’ offense showed improvement early in the season. But when John Beck became the third starter at quarterback this year, the unit failed to score a touchdown in three consecutive games, and the rookie returned to the bench. Cameron took over a team that had gone 19-29 the previous three years and was in decline following a series of bad drafts. Poor depth made this year’s wave of injuries catastrophic. Running back Ronnie Brown led the league in yards from scrimmage when he was sidelined for the season by a knee injury, and Green and linebacker Zach Thomas also went on injured reserve. When 2002 NFL rushing champion Ricky Williams returned from a suspension, he lasted only six carries before a chest injury ended his season. In addition, top receiver Chris Chambers was traded after six games. The coach’s office became a revolving door in 2004, when Dave Wannstedt quit after nine games and was replaced by Jim Bates. Nick Saban became the coach in 2005 but lasted only two years before leaving for Alabama, and he was succeeded by Cameron. Seven coaches started a season with a team that went 1-15, and only two returned the following year. Jimmy Johnson went 1-15 his first season in Dallas in 1989 but soon was winning Super Bowls, and Mike Riley remained with San Diego despite winning only once in 2000. Cameron’s only other head coaching job was at Indiana, where he was fired after five seasons. His career record as a head coach is 19-52. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoBengal Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 I think Cam falls into the "good O.C. - not so good H.C." category. And if he were brought in, we'd probably see a receiving tight end taken at some point earlier than later in the draft. I don't think we'll be in the OC market this year, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USN Bengal Posted January 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 [quote name='ChicagoBengal' post='617980' date='Jan 3 2008, 09:53 AM']I think Cam falls into the "good O.C. - not so good H.C." category. And if he were brought in, we'd probably see a receiving tight end taken at some point earlier than later in the draft. I don't think we'll be in the OC market this year, though.[/quote] I can hope that we are!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 [quote name='USNBENGAL the Original' post='617975' date='Jan 3 2008, 08:47 AM']It would also be nice if they let Dom Capers go and we could look at him for DC.[/quote] They did fire Capers . . . [quote][size=5][b]Dolphins fire Cameron and all but 2 of his assistants[/b][/size] By Harvey Fialkov | Sun-Sentinel.com 9:09 AM EST, January 3, 2008 DAVIE - It's one and done for Cam Cameron after new vice president of football operations Bill Parcells fired the first-year head coach and all but two members of his assistants Thursday morning. Evidently, Cameron and Parcells' mutual friendship with iconic college basketball coach Bobby Knight wasn't enough to save Cameron from becoming the first Dolphins coach to be fired in 37 years or since George Wilson was replaced by Don Shula after the 1969 season. Jim Bates wasn't retained after serving as interim coach for the final seven games of the 2004 season. Under Cameron, the Dolphins became the eighth team in NFL history to finish 1-15, by far the worst season in franchise history. They lost their first 13 games before edging the Ravens 22-16 in overtime. The two coaches who have been retained are assistant special teams coach Steve Hoffman and linebackers coach George Edwards. All of the remaining coaches are free to seek other employment. However, when a new head coach is in place, there is a possibility that he will talk to some of those assistants. Cameron is the 19th first-year coach to not return for a second season, with the last being Bobby Petrino, who resigned from the Falcons after 13 games this season. A frontrunner for the coaching vacancy is Cowboys assistant head coach Tony Sparano, who will interview for the Falcons' job on Friday. The rest of the assistant coaches are free to seek other employment, according to the team-released press release. "This is a difficult decision and I want to thank Cam and the rest of his staff for their work this past season,'' said Dolphins General Manager Jeff Ireland, who was hired by Parcells on Wednesday. "By making this decision now, it gives all the coaches the greatest chance to pursue other opportunities.''[/quote] [url="http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-103cameronfired,0,3224398.story"]http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/footbal...0,3224398.story[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 As far as Cameron for OC, I don`t think we are in the hunt for one . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 There has been a hint from someone I saw the other day who is normally in the know (dont know if he pulled his sresources on this) that Brat isnt going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USN Bengal Posted January 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 [quote name='oldschooler' post='617990' date='Jan 3 2008, 10:02 AM']As far as Cameron for OC, I don`t think we are in the hunt for one . . .[/quote] Too bad... I think we need a better one. I wonder if we decide to give Capers a look? There are also rumors out and about that Miami is interested in trading Taylor and Thomas. Both are older... but if anyone needed a proven pass rusher, Taylor could possibly be had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-GoBengals- Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Brats not going anywhere. i think the guys leaving are gone.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoutforlife591 Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 I think if we were going to fire Bratkowski, that Cameron and Zampese would be the only two candidates. So once Cameron is gone, I think Bratkowski can exhale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 [quote name='USNBENGAL the Original' post='617996' date='Jan 3 2008, 09:17 AM']There are also rumors out and about that Miami is interested in trading Taylor and Thomas. Both are older... but if anyone needed a proven pass rusher, Taylor could possibly be had.[/quote] [quote][size=5][b]Trading Thomas, Taylor will best serve Dolphins[/b][/size] By Greg Stoda Palm Beach Post Staff Writer Thursday, January 03, 2008 It's time for Jason Taylor to go. Zach Thomas, too, if Miami can find a taker. They have been terrific players for the Dolphins - both certain future Ring of Honor members - for the whole of their careers. But the best service they now can provide a franchise as downtrodden and desperate as Miami's lies not in what they can do, but in what they can bring. Bill Parcells, the Dolphins' football czar, has to know as much, and ought to tell Jeff Ireland, Miami's new general manager, to put the Taylor-Thomas Project at or near the top of the docket. Parcells, upon introduction as vice president of football operations last week, said he's in the "talent acquisition" business. So, acquire. Maybe he could steal a first-round draft choice for a 33-year-old defensive end still as formidable as Taylor is when allowed to freelance and improvise. Probably not, but a second-rounder and perhaps another lower-rounder would do. He should also take whatever conditional pick he can get for a migraine-infected, concussion-plagued 34-year-old linebacker as brave-hearted as Thomas remains after spending too many seasons making tackle after tackle after tackle. Taylor was a third-round choice out of Akron a year after Thomas was a fifth-round pick out of Texas Tech, and never again are the Dolphins likely to make such worthwhile discoveries so deep in the panning-for-gold process. They have been gems. And, of course, talent retention is its own important element in building a strong NFL team. But here's an Exhibit A question to ask yourself: Did the Dolphins really err in trading Wes Welker (112 receptions for New England this season) when they managed to pull a starting rookie center out of the deal in second-round draft choice Samson Satele? What if the Dolphins, already well-positioned for the upcoming April draft, could hold a bundle of picks in the first two rounds by trading the top one they currently hold and Taylor in separate deals? Miami isn't going to transform itself from 1-15 doormat to anything beyond a four- or five-win team next season with or without Taylor and Thomas, which means planning for the longer-term future becomes much more important than any other consideration. It's unfortunate for both players that the Dolphins were too inept offensively to make their most dominant defensive seasons matter. But the window long ago closed on the Taylor-and-Thomas dream of playing together in a Super Bowl for the only team either of them has known. A Dolphins divorce might not be all that wrenching for either player, anyway. Thomas didn't appreciate it when Miami placed him on injured reserve this season. He was offended and insulted, in private, while maintaining proper public bearing. But if the Dolphins decide he's not worth the economic burdens accompanying the $5.6 million he's due next season? Don't count on Thomas making it easy for Miami's bean counters to fit him into their financial structure if, in fact, he'd just as soon play somewhere else (see: a contending team). Taylor is of the same mind-set. His frustrations, on the field and off, have been more apparent than anything Thomas has exhibited. Taylor seemed to enjoy playing for Nick Saban, who used him in the manner of a roving monster in Miami's defense. But he has felt shackled under Cam Cameron, who mostly has pinned him down to strict responsibilities of a defensive end. Neither has Taylor voiced support for Cameron while the rookie head coach's future with the team has been questioned. Taylor either couldn't or wouldn't even say he wanted to continue playing for the Dolphins when asked the question after Sunday's season-ending loss. The silence must have been deafening. [b]Taylor would be more attractive than Thomas in the marketplace, but money would be a greater issue. Taylor is owed $15.5 million across the next two seasons.[/b] There's a starkly harsh simplicity involved in these cases. Miami would be better off economically by trading Taylor and Thomas, and would facilitate its rebuilding process, too, by doing so. Dolphins owner H. Wayne Huizenga has a particular affection for both Taylor and Thomas, and - if he and Parcells deem reciprocity to be fair - would happily accommodate their desires for trade. Nothing wrong with sending Thomas home to the Houston Texans or Dallas Cowboys. [b]Nothing wrong, either, with sending Taylor home to the Cleveland Browns or Cincinnati Bengals.[/b] Nothing wrong with the Dolphins planning for their own future by getting younger. Taylor and Thomas will see their names among the franchise greats when the time comes no matter where they might finish their careers.[/quote] [url="http://www.palmbeachpost.com/dolphins/content/sports/epaper/2008/01/03/a1c_stoda_0103.html"]http://www.palmbeachpost.com/dolphins/cont...stoda_0103.html[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-GoBengals- Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 [quote name='Scoutforlife591' post='618003' date='Jan 3 2008, 10:22 AM']I think if we were going to fire Bratkowski, that Cameron and Zampese would be the only two candidates. So once Cameron is gone, I think Bratkowski can exhale.[/quote] why would we wit on firing anyone? he isnt going anywhere. nor should he, he has always done a good job here. anyone who makes kitna almost a playoff QB should get a nobel prize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalsfan850 Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 i'd take him in a heartbeat over brat, but i doubt it happens capers as DC interests me, and make donnie henderson the LB coach, but i'd be fine if henderson is the DC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoutforlife591 Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 [quote name='GoBengals' post='618008' date='Jan 3 2008, 10:28 AM']why would we wit on firing anyone? he isnt going anywhere. nor should he, he has always done a good job here. anyone who makes kitna almost a playoff QB should get a nobel prize.[/quote] I think they would wait for an internal review process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bunghole| Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 [quote name='GoBengals' post='618008' date='Jan 3 2008, 10:28 AM']why would we wit on firing anyone? he isnt going anywhere. nor should he, he has always done a good job here. [b]anyone who makes kitna almost a playoff QB should get a nobel prize.[/b][/quote] Hah, ain't that the truth. And there was Mike Martz in Detroit this season, thinking he could do the same! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-GoBengals- Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 [quote name='Bunghole' post='618107' date='Jan 3 2008, 12:33 PM'] Hah, ain't that the truth. And there was [b]Mike Martz in Detroit this season, thinking he could do the same![/b][/quote] sucker... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Dan_Bengals_FL- Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 [quote name='GoBengals' post='618132' date='Jan 3 2008, 01:15 PM']sucker...[/quote] And by the way, Brat is not going anywhere. Get used to it ................. and give him his nobel prize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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