MichaelWeston Posted October 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 The current OSU team is not all that talented. There is not a player on this current OSU team that would be on an All Decade team for OSU. Its a down year but for some reason people ignored that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 [quote name='MichaelWeston' timestamp='1287362238' post='931532'] and now they arent. [/quote] and no who aren't? Are you trying to say Wisconsin isn't better than South Carolina? You're out of your mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 [quote name='MichaelWeston' timestamp='1287362326' post='931535'] The current OSU team is not all that talented. There is not a player on this current OSU team that would be on an All Decade team for OSU. Its a down year but for some reason people ignored that. [/quote] it's certainly a down year on the defensive side of the ball, particularly in the secondary. Everyone knew that coming into the season. As for your "All-Decade" comment, that speaks to the level of talent OSU has had. A down year by your standards and they were still #1. As for the "All-Decade team", Cameron Heyward would definitely make it. He's the best DT the team has had probably since Dan Wilkenson. I also think Dane Sanzenbacher would make the team, though OSU has had some great WR's this decade. Justin Boren would be another viable option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted October 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 [quote name='Bengals1181' timestamp='1287368432' post='931561'] it's certainly a down year on the defensive side of the ball, particularly in the secondary. Everyone knew that coming into the season. As for your "All-Decade" comment, that speaks to the level of talent OSU has had. A down year by your standards and they were still #1. As for the "All-Decade team", Cameron Heyward would definitely make it. He's the best DT the team has had probably since Dan Wilkenson. I also think Dane Sanzenbacher would make the team, though OSU has had some great WR's this decade. Justin Boren would be another viable option. [/quote] Dane Sanzenbacher is not in the top 10. Cameron Heyward plays DE and would not be above Gholston or Will Smith and the OL is not very good for the Bucks. They have had a ton of talent and this is not one of those talented teams. Its a top 15 team that was ranked number one for some reason. That was my entire point. Their is a known commodity bias. OSU played nobody and made it to number 1 while all of their fans were screaming about Boise States schedule.[quote name='Bengals1181' timestamp='1287368432' post='931561'] it's certainly a down year on the defensive side of the ball, particularly in the secondary. Everyone knew that coming into the season. As for your "All-Decade" comment, that speaks to the level of talent OSU has had. A down year by your standards and they were still #1. As for the "All-Decade team", Cameron Heyward would definitely make it. He's the best DT the team has had probably since Dan Wilkenson. I also think Dane Sanzenbacher would make the team, though OSU has had some great WR's this decade. Justin Boren would be another viable option. [/quote] Dane Sanzenbacher is not in the top 10. Cameron Heyward plays DE and would not be above Gholston or Will Smith and the OL is not very good for the Bucks. They have had a ton of talent and this is not one of those talented teams. Its a top 15 team that was ranked number one for some reason. That was my entire point. Their is a known commodity bias. OSU played nobody and made it to number 1 while all of their fans were screaming about Boise States schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 [quote name='MichaelWeston' timestamp='1287372117' post='931569'] Cameron Heyward plays DE and would not be above Gholston or Will Smith and the OL is not very good for the Bucks. [/quote] Heyward lines up both inside and outside, but more often than not he's lining up at DT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted October 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 My current ranking of 1 and no loss teams. 1 LSU 7--0 #18 NC 30-24 Vandy 27-3 Miss St 29-7 #22 WV 20-14 Tenn 16-14 #14 Florida 33-29 McNeese St 32-10 2 Auburn 7--0 Ark St 52-26 Miss St 17-14 Clemson 27-24 #12 SC 35-27 La Monroe 52-3 UK 37-34 #12 Arkansas 65-43 3 Michigan St 7--0 W Michigan 38-14 Fl Atlatnic 30-17 ND 34-31 N Colorado 45-7 #11 Wisconsin 34-24 #18 Michigan 34-17 Illinois 26-6 4 Boise State 6--0 #10 Va Tech 33-30 Wyoming 51-6 #24 Oregon St 37-24 N Mexico St 59-0 Toledo 57-14 San Jose St 48-0 5 Oklahoma 6--0 Utah St 31-24 #17 FSU 47-17 Air Force 27-24 Cincinnati 31-29 #21 Texas 28-20 Iowa St 52-0 6 Oregon 6--0 N Mexico 72-0 Tenn 48-13 P State 69-0 A State 42-31 #9 Stanford 52-31 Wash St 42-23 7 TCU 7--0 #24 Oregon St 30-21 Tenn Tech 62-7 Baylor 45-10 SMU 41-24 C State 27-0 Wyoming 45-0 BYU 31-3 8 Utah 6--0 #15 Pitt 27-24 UNLV 38-10 N Mexico 56-14 S Jose St 56-3 Iowa St 68-27 Wyoming 30-6 9 Alabama 6--1 S Jose St 48-3 #18 Penn St 24-3 Duke 62-13 #10 Arkansas 24-20 #7 Florida 31-6 #19 XSC 35-21 Ole Miss 23-10 10 Florida St 6--1 Samford 59-6 #10 XOklahoma 47-17 BYU 34-10 Wake 31-0 Virginia 34-14 #13 Miami 45-17 BC 24-19 11 Wisconsin 6--1 UNLV 41-21 S Jose St 27-14 A State 20-19 Austin Peay 70-3 #24 XMSU 34-24 Minnie 41-23 #1OSU 31-18 12 OSU 6--1 Marshall 45-7 #12 Miami 36-24 OU 43-7 E Michigan 73-20 Illinois 24-13 Indiana 38-10 X #18 Wisconsin 31-18 13 Iowa 5--1 E Illinois 37-7 Iowa St 35-7 #24 XArizona 34-27 Ball State 45-0 #22 Penn State 24-3 Michigan 38-28 14 Arizona 6--1 Toledo 41-2 Citadel 52-6 #9 Iowa 34-27 California 10-9 XOregon St 29-27 Washington St 24-7 15 Missourri 6--0 Illinois 23-13 McNeese St 50-6 SD State 27-24 Miami 51-13 Colorado 26-0 Texas AnM 30-9 16 Oklahoma St 6--0 Washington St 65-17 Troy 41-38 Tulsa 65-28 Texas AnM 38-35 La Lafayette 54-28 Texas Tech 34-17 17 Stanford 5--1 Sac State 52-17 UCLA 35-0 Wake 68-24 ND 37-14 #4 XOregon 52-31 USC 37-35 18 Kansas St 5--1 UCLA 31-22 Missouri St 48-24 Iowa State 27-20 UCF 17-13 #7 XNebraska 48-13 Kansas 59-7 19 West Virginia 5--1 C Carolina 31-0 Marshall 24-21 Maryland 31-17 #15 XLSU 20-14 UNLV 49-10 USF 20-6 20 Nebraska 5--1 W Kentucky 49-10 Idaho 38-17 Washington 56-21 S Dakota St 17-3 Kansas St 48-13 X Texas 20-13 21 Northwestern 5--1 Vandy 23-21 Illinois State 37-3 Rice 30-13 C Michigan 30-25 Minnie 29-28 XPurdue 20-17 22 Nevada 6--1 E Wash 49-24 C State 51-6 California 52-31 BYU 27-13 UNLV 44-26 S Jose St 35-13 X Hawaii 27-21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sois Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 [code] 1. OKLAHOMA 0.960260 6-0 0.613680: 13 3 4 W: #15 FLORIDA ST 2. LSU 0.946359 7-0 0.573890: 28 3 4 W: #19 MISSISSIPPI ST 3. AUBURN 0.933798 7-0 0.557740: 33 1 3 W: #19 MISSISSIPPI ST 4. MICHIGAN ST 0.906234 7-0 0.522301: 53 1 4 W: #17 WISCONSIN 5. MISSOURI 0.904204 6-0 0.538939: 44 0 3 W: #43 ILLINOIS 6. TCU 0.875905 7-0 0.483307: 77 0 2 W: #36 BAYLOR 7. BOISE ST 0.864251 6-0 0.485668: 73 0 3 W: #30 VA TECH 8. OKLAHOMA ST 0.849674 6-0 0.466232: 89 0 0 W: #57 TEXAS TECH 9. OREGON 0.808041 6-0 0.410722: 113 1 1 W: #10 STANFORD 10. STANFORD 0.804781 5-1 0.573042: 29 0 2 W: #33 SOUTHERN CAL [/code] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 it's a crime that Oklahoma and LSU are anywhere near the top 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted October 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 [quote name='Bengals1181' timestamp='1287429249' post='931731'] it's a crime that Oklahoma and LSU are anywhere near the top 5. [/quote] The info is in front of you. If you are going to say that make your own top five. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 [quote name='MichaelWeston' timestamp='1287493271' post='931925'] The info is in front of you. If you are going to say that make your own top five. [/quote] or else what? Anywho: 1. Oregon 2. Boise State 3. Auburn 4. Alabama 5. TCU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted October 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 I might agree with some there. Auburn and Oregon have been the teams I ahve seen that impressed me the most. I have not seen much of LSU or Oke. LSU is the undefeated team that has played the most ranked teams. So I base it on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 lol I wasn't even commenting on your post, but rather the BCS rankings. LSU is lucky they aren't 4-2, and by all rights should be. Oklahoma's struggling against average teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vol_Bengal Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 [quote name='Bengals1181' timestamp='1287494596' post='931945'] 1. Oregon 2. Boise State 3. Auburn 4. Alabama 5. TCU [/quote] I'd agree with this for the most part... Although, like to see Oregon play a team with a strong defense and see what happens. Same with Boise State. I'm not hugely impressed with Auburn - they're two stephen garcia fumbles in the fourth quarter, at home, from having that loss. And, still had to have a stop late in the game against a freshman quarterback to win it. For my money, I still like Alabama at the end. Their only weakness is pass defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 [quote name='Vol_Bengal' timestamp='1287501560' post='931990'] I'd agree with this for the most part... Although, like to see Oregon play a team with a strong defense and see what happens. Same with Boise State. I'm not hugely impressed with Auburn - they're two stephen garcia fumbles in the fourth quarter, at home, from having that loss. And, still had to have a stop late in the game against a freshman quarterback to win it. For my money, I still like Alabama at the end. Their only weakness is pass defense. [/quote] Yea I'll admit that I'm not that high on Oregon (can't play defense) and am not sold on Auburn, but at this point you have to put them up there. I have concerns about Boise State's defense as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted October 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 [quote name='Bengals1181' timestamp='1287501695' post='931991'] Yea I'll admit that I'm not that high on Oregon (can't play defense) and am not sold on Auburn, but at this point you have to put them up there. I have concerns about Boise State's defense as well. [/quote] Cam newton is the best player in the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 [quote name='MichaelWeston' timestamp='1287542000' post='932158'] Cam newton is the best player in the country. [/quote] Cam Newton is a monster. I wonder how he is going to do in the Pro's. Does he project to be a good QB? Or is he just a good college player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vol_Bengal Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 [quote name='MichaelWeston' timestamp='1287542000' post='932158'] Cam newton is the best player in the country. [/quote] He may be... but he doesn't play defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted October 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 1 LSU 7--0 2 Auburn 7--0 3 Michigan St 7--0 4 Boise State 6--0 5 Oklahoma 6--0 6 Oregon 7--0 7 TCU 7--0 8 Utah 6--0 9 Oklahoma St 6--0 10 Missourri 6--0 11 Alabama 6--1 12 Florida St 6--1 13 Wisconsin 6--1 14 OSU 6--1 15 Iowa 5--1 16 Arizona 6--1 17 Stanford 5--1 18 Kansas St 5--1 19 West Virginia 5--1 20 Nebraska 5--1 21 Northwestern 5--1 22 Nevada 6--1 Some great games this weekend that should clear up some stuff. Oke v Mizzou both 6-0 Auburn v LSU 7-0 MSU 7-0 v Northwestern 5-1 Wisconsin 6-1 v Iowa 5-1 Nebraska 5-1 v Oke State 6-0 Atleast 2 teams will drop out of the undefeated ranks leaving at most 8. Atleast 1 tam will drop out of the 1 loss group leaving the total number at 21. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted October 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 New Rankings So this is fascinating the only Undefeated teams that play each other are Utah and TCU. All the others control their own destiny. My rankings based off quality wins. Auburn 8--0 Michigan St 8--0 Boise State 6--0 Missouri 7--0 Oregon 7--0 TCU 8--0 Alabama 7--1 Wisconsin 7--1 LSU 7--1 Oklahoma 6--1 Utah 7--0 Florida St 6--1 OSU 7--1 Nebraska 6--1 Arizona 6--1 Stanford 6--1 Oklahoma St 6--1 Nevada 6--1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 Auburn v. Alabama would be the best title game right now. I would actually probably watch that. Cam Newton vs. Trent Richardson/Julio Jones/Mark Ingram. Fascinating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted October 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 That game is still on the schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 very glad Oklahoma and LSU got exposed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vol_Bengal Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 [quote name='JC' timestamp='1287899760' post='933021'] Auburn v. Alabama would be the best title game right now. I would actually probably watch that. Cam Newton vs. Trent Richardson/Julio Jones/Mark Ingram. Fascinating. [/quote] Actually... Oregon is pretty damn good. These two will play the week of Thanksgiving with the winner going to SEC Championship and provided they win it, which they should, they could play Oregon. I'd take that. I just like Oregon's offense and would like to see it play a great defense and see what it could do. Oregon will beat USC by about 24 points or better this weekend.[quote name='Bengals1181' timestamp='1287937818' post='933093'] very glad Oklahoma and LSU got exposed. [/quote] and, this. Mizzou's defense is nothing to sneeze at, that is for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBandJoeyV Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 [quote name='JC' timestamp='1287899760' post='933021'] Auburn v. Alabama would be the best title game right now. I would actually probably watch that. Cam Newton vs. Trent Richardson/Julio Jones/Mark Ingram. Fascinating. [/quote] No way that would happen. They are both in the SEC and play each other in November. My hope is Alabama beating Auburn and Oregon losing to USC. Mizzou and Michigan State both losing as well. Only undefeated teams being Boise and TCU. See how messed up that could make stuff and then hopefully get the system changed. Ideally for me as an OSU fan it would be Boise TCU as the only undefeated teams with OSU and Alabama as the two best 1 loss team, so either 1. they have to mess with the system by putting a non BCS team or 2 in the NC or put OSU back in it and people will be upset either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 [quote name='Vol_Bengal' timestamp='1288028918' post='934529'] Actually... Oregon is pretty damn good. These two will play the week of Thanksgiving with the winner going to SEC Championship and provided they win it, which they should, they could play Oregon. I'd take that. I just like Oregon's offense and would like to see it play a great defense and see what it could do. [/quote] Oregon and Auburn would be awesome too. I just think Alabama and Auburn are the best two teams right now. Too bad one of them is going to knock the other one out. Really can't beat SEC football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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