dabengals12 Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 I'm hoping that the FO gets there heads out of their butts and sign Geno to an extension before the price gets to steep. And I just saw that he tweeted that he was on his way back to Cincy, and someone asked why, snd he hash tagged A good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 [quote name='dabengals12' timestamp='1326328302' post='1088724'] I'm hoping that the FO gets there heads out of their butts and sign Geno to an extension before the price gets to steep. And I just saw that he tweeted that he was on his way back to Cincy, and someone asked why, snd he hash tagged A good thing. [/quote] actually, he was responding to someone else who said they were coming back to cincy. [url="https://twitter.com/#!/GenoSacks"]GenoSacks[/url] [color=#999999][size=3]Geno Atkins[/size][/color] [color=#999999][size=2] [/size][/color] [font=Arial,] What you coming up here for? RT "[url="https://twitter.com/#!/MrStephens_"][s]@[/s][b]MrStephens_[/b][/url]: Headed back to Cincy... [url="https://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23agoodthing"][s]#[/s][b]agoodthing[/b][/url]"[/font] [url="https://twitter.com/#!/GenoSacks/status/157244106026917888"]49 minutes ago [/url][size=2][url="https://twitter.com/#"][b]Favorite[/b][/url] [url="https://twitter.com/#"][b]Retweet[/b][/url] [url="https://twitter.com/#"][b]Reply[/b][/url][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabengals12 Posted January 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Then he is still here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewdog Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Geno has the chance to be the next Warren Sapp. I hope Cincy can lock him with at least a 4 year deal. Finding interior pass rushers is like finding a $20 in a washed pair of jeans. You are surprised as hell and you find a good place to put it to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDawgBengal Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 [quote name='dabengals12' timestamp='1326328957' post='1088730']Then he is still here?[/quote] Are you asking if he still in Cincinnati or still on the team? He is not a free agent till 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elijah15 Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Man we better resign him Hes not the biggest but his strength and speed is unbelieveable He causes pressure amazingly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabengals12 Posted January 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 I mean in Cincy, and I would sure hope they get him extended before its too late, or too expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDawgBengal Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 [quote name='dabengals12' timestamp='1326330472' post='1088743']I mean in Cincy, and I would sure hope they get him extended before its too late, or too expensive.[/quote] Who knows if he is still in Cincinnati? It really does not matter as far as an extension goes. His agent will do all the work and he can just sign next time he is here. I don't expect him to be extended till next season. Right now the focus is on free agency and the draft. If money is left over after free agency and the draft, they will use it to extended people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldcat Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 [quote name='Lewdog' timestamp='1326329183' post='1088734'] Geno has the chance to be the next Warren Sapp. [/quote] You mean I will see him in Bengals slippers on NFLN promotional commercials? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewdog Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 [quote name='Oldcat' timestamp='1326331542' post='1088756'] You mean I will see him in Bengals slippers on NFLN promotional commercials? [/quote] No I mean when his contract is up he'll use the Bengals as a bargaining tool to sign with the Raiders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldcat Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 [quote name='Lewdog' timestamp='1326332180' post='1088767'] No I mean when his contract is up he'll use the Bengals as a bargaining tool to sign with the Raiders. [/quote] More like he will use the Raiders as a tool and sign with Tampa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 2 years in the league is premature imo to talk about a new contract yet, lets wait till next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.A.B. Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 [quote name='Jamie_B' timestamp='1326334338' post='1088789'] 2 years in the league is premature imo to talk about a new contract yet, lets wait till next year. [/quote] is he not a FA this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 [quote name='B.A.B.' timestamp='1326334960' post='1088792'] is he not a FA this year? [/quote] Geno? After 2 years? I'd be surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewdog Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 [quote name='Jamie_B' timestamp='1326335063' post='1088793'] Geno? After 2 years? I'd be surprised. [/quote] He signed a 4 year contract in 2010. [quote]The Cincinnati Bengals have struck a four-year, $2.26 million contract with fourth-round rookie defensive lineman Geno Atkins, according to a league source. The 6-foot-1, 290-pound defensive lineman's deal included a signing bonus slightly higher than $472,000. He was named Georgia's Most Valuable Defensive Player as a senior with three sacks and 36 tackles, 10 1/2 for losses. Atkins is the son of former NFL safety Gene Atkins.[/quote] http://gridironfans.com/forums/latest-nfl-headlines/134592-bengals-sign-dt-geno-atkins-four-year.html So during this year would be the best time to sign him to an extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalsOwn Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Why would you want to do that? Keep him cheap for as long as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabengals12 Posted January 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 So with that logic, keep him unhappy for another season? Then it festers all next offseason, then he says tata. Do you think that we are the ones seeing the All Pro hype? What happens when a player outperforms his contract and is made to wait? You get a disgruntled player who will use any little injury to sit out extended stretches to bide their time to get to FA... ala Forte.Correction... We are the only ones... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coup000 Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 [quote name='BengalsOwn' timestamp='1326335648' post='1088797'] Why would you want to do that? Keep him cheap for as long as possible. [/quote] Funny that someone who hates Mike Brown so much apparently prescribes to his theory of contract extensions. The best teams in the league lock up their best players long before they become free agents. You get a discount for doing it early and you keep them throughout their prime. As a side note, MB has actually been pretty decent at doing this lately, except with JJ and some guys who got overpaid (steinbach etc). Edit: it looks like he has made much more than a million or 2 at this point in his career. You throw a $5-10M bonus at him, escalate the salaries and add 3 years on the deal and you've got a great young DT locked up for 5 more years at a fairly modest salary cap #. No brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewdog Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 [quote name='coup000' timestamp='1326336617' post='1088805'] Funny that someone who hates Mike Brown so much apparently prescribes to his theory of contract extensions. The best teams in the league lock up their best players long before they become free agents. You get a discount for doing it early and you keep them throughout their prime. As a side note, MB has actually been pretty decent at doing this lately, except with JJ and some guys who got overpaid (steinbach etc). [/quote] I read somewhere that Steinbach might get released because of injury concerns with his back. If he is healthy enough to come back, and hasn't gotten a staph infection from playing in Cleveland, I would welcome him back with open arms. Whit and Steiny on the same side would be unreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalsOwn Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 [quote name='coup000' timestamp='1326336617' post='1088805'] Funny that someone who hates Mike Brown so much apparently prescribes to his theory of contract extensions. The best teams in the league lock up their best players long before they become free agents. You get a discount for doing it early and you keep them throughout their prime. As a side note, MB has actually been pretty decent at doing this lately, except with JJ and some guys who got overpaid (steinbach etc). [/quote] All you do is sign them to another under-valued contract, and they hold out again (ala Chad Johnson). Or you overpay them thinking that they haven't reached their full potential (see Carson Palmer). The best teams in the league don't sign their rookies to an extension when they have another two years left on their deal. There's a thing called the salary cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Montana Bengal| Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 I read somewhere else suggesting Steinbach could come back. I can't remember...maybe Reedy? Did he leave on bad terms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewdog Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 [quote name='Montana Bengal' timestamp='1326336951' post='1088809'] I read somewhere else suggesting Steinbach could come back. I can't remember...maybe Reedy? Did he leave on bad terms? [/quote] I don't think so. Just was too big of a contract for Mike Brown to match. Besides Steiny loves him some Budweiser and Ohio River fish'n! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coup000 Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 [quote name='BengalsOwn' timestamp='1326336769' post='1088807'] All you do is sign them to another under-valued contract, and they hold out again (ala Chad Johnson). Or you overpay them thinking that they haven't reached their full potential (see Carson Palmer). The best teams in the league don't sign their rookies to an extension when they have another two years left on their deal. There's a thing called the salary cap. [/quote] Yes, they do. And you do realize that the contract structure I described adds, at most, $3M to any individual years salary cap. For a soon to be pro bowl and likely all pro DT. Not worth it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Can someone tell me a non-qb that got signed to a long term deal like that after 2 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewdog Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 [quote name='Jamie_B' timestamp='1326337673' post='1088815'] Can someone tell me a non-qb that got signed to a long term deal like that after 2 years? [/quote] I'm thinking they do it in the middle of next year...so technically it will be during his third year. They'll have to do it before a certain point so that they can put Cap money on the up coming year instead of future years. It would be really smart to do, because if AJ and Dalton continue doing what they are, they will eventually eat a lot of cap soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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