Palestine and Israel

[claptonrocks]

2 hours ago, T-Dub said:

 

 

The person who beheaded that woman did it because he thought she was an "animal" or "savage".

 

Every time you repeat that sort of talk you're helping to perpetuate the mutual hatred that causes that kind of horrible shit. I'd like to believe that's not your intention.

I say what I believe and that's the Hamas and other terrorist need exterminated.

 

Iran is behind this is yet your potus

gave them 6 bil to fund and destroy Western world with Israel first on the list.

 

 

[T-Dub]

1 hour ago, claptonrocks said:

I say what I believe and that's the Hamas and other terrorist need exterminated.

 

 

With "terrorist" being whoever you say it is. Convenient.

 

The fight over Jerusalem is older than Alexander the Great's conquest of what we now call Iran. Your timeline is way, way off.

[claptonrocks]

10 minutes ago, T-Dub said:

 

With "terrorist" being whoever you say it is. Convenient.

 

The fight over Jerusalem is older than Alexander the Great's conquest of what we now call Iran. Your timeline is way, way off.

I understand all the that.

With all the technology and more money they now have, it's escalated to all out 

war on Israel.

To think otherwise is naive..

 

 

 

 

 

[T-Dub]

7 minutes ago, claptonrocks said:

I understand all the that.

With all the technology and more money they now have, it's escalated to all out 

war on Israel.

To think otherwise is naive..

 

 

 

 

 

 

Consider which one has fighter jets, smart bombs, anti-aircraft missiles and battle tanks and which one is building rockets out of drain pipe and throwing literal rocks.

 

Now consider which one you've decided are the good guys. You're just bloodthirsty.

[claptonrocks]

13 minutes ago, T-Dub said:

 

Consider which one has fighter jets, smart bombs, anti-aircraft missiles and battle tanks and which one is building rockets out of drain pipe and throwing literal rocks.

 

Now consider which one you've decided are the good guys. You're just bloodthirsty.

If that's what you think fine.

We have huge disagreements on what you perceive as evil.

[Jamie_B]

1 hour ago, claptonrocks said:

I say what I believe and that's the Hamas and other terrorist need exterminated.

 

Iran is behind this is yet your potus

gave them 6 bil to fund and destroy Western world with Israel first on the list.

 

 

 

 

Once again, our own intelligence has said they have no proof that Iran has been involved in this. 

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/us-intelligence-indicates-iranian-leaders-surprised-hamas-attack-rcna119946

 

The more you repeat this the more you are being used as a propaganda piece. Follow the evidence not the things you may want to believe.

[claptonrocks]

11 minutes ago, Jamie_B said:

 

 

Once again, our own intelligence has said they have no proof that Iran has been involved in this. 

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/us-intelligence-indicates-iranian-leaders-surprised-hamas-attack-rcna119946

 

The more you repeat this the more you are being used as a propaganda piece. Follow the evidence not the things you may want to believe.

Our intelligence is lying their ass off as they do many times.

Who's foolin who?..

[Jamie_B]

1 minute ago, claptonrocks said:

Our intelligence is lying their ass off as they do many times.

Who's foolin who?..

 

What purpose does it serve for them to lie about that?

[claptonrocks]

16 minutes ago, Jamie_B said:

 

What purpose does it serve for them to lie about that?

Dont want to ruffle Iranian feathers.

 

You know who's to blame for this war beside Iran?

Your POS potus.

Giving rhem billions enabled them to fund terrorists..

 

He's a lowlife pacifist that's ruined this country.

 

No borders. Wtf

Inflation killing families here. Wtf

Spending bllllions on nonsense  like it's His money. Wtf.

Running  like the a wimpy ass in Afghanistan like the coward he is ..wtf

 

Will go down as the worst leader of America Ever.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Jamie_B]

1 minute ago, claptonrocks said:

Dont want to ruffle Iranian feathers.

You know who's to blame fir this war beside Iran.

Your POS potus.

Giving rhem billions enabled them to fund terrorists.

 

He's a lowlife pacifist thats ruined this country.

No borders. Wtf

Inflation killing families here. Wtf

Spending bllllions on nonsense the like it's His  money. Wtf.

Running  like the coward in Afghanistan

like the coward he is ..wtf

 

Will go down as the worst leader of America Ever.

 

 

When you ignore evidence because it doesn't confirm your beliefs......

 

At this point, I have to agree with @T-Dub. You are looking more and more bloodthirsty.

 

You have only your own soul to search on why that might be.

[claptonrocks]

9 minutes ago, Jamie_B said:

 

When you ignore evidence because it doesn't confirm your beliefs......

 

At this point, I have to agree with @T-Dub. You are looking more and more bloodthirsty.

 

You have only your own soul to search on why that might be.

That was not evidence..just their report.

They lie alot you know or don't you?

 

Not bloodthirsty .just understand when your at war with these savages you call "resistance fighters" you take them All out to save your country.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Jamie_B]

3 minutes ago, claptonrocks said:

That was not evidence..just their report.

They lie alot you know or don't you?

 

Not bloodthirsty .just understand when your at war with these savages you call "resistance fighters" you take them All out to save your country.

 

 

 

Unless you can bring forth evidence showing that Iran is involved in this attack, then all you have is your belief. That should never be enough to pursue anything with regard to any action toward Iran. If you have evidence bring it forth and maybe that will change my mind. Until then I will continue to be concerned for your soul.

[claptonrocks]

14 minutes ago, Jamie_B said:

 

Unless you can bring forth evidence showing that Iran is involved in this attack, then all you have is your belief. That should never be enough to pursue anything with regard to any action toward Iran. If you have evidence bring it forth and maybe that will change my mind. Until then I will continue to be concerned for your soul.

Tks for the concern my friend.

[T-Dub]

14 hours ago, claptonrocks said:

If that's what you think fine.

We have huge disagreements on what you perceive as evil.

 

I think the disagreement lies in deciding one side is entirely evil and the other side entirely perfect in order to justify wholesale slaughter of innocent civilians in a place you've never been and don't seem to know much about. Then casually reject the opinion of experts whenever it doesn't match your halfbaked opinion on the subject.

 

Almost like a war movie is still too nuanced for you and you want to enjoy the vicarious surge of righteous anger in seeing someone not exactly like you getting bombed.

 

You want to talk about evil? I don't think you do.

 

 

[T-Dub]

Also let me add to all this "Biden this Biden that" stuff.. Hardly anyone really likes Joe Biden as President. You don't see a lot of Biden bumper stickers.

 

He's only in office because he was running against an absurd traitor. You think there's some big Biden cult because your own politics are a cult. Fact is, everyone kind of hates Biden. But the alternative right now is some idiotic, flat- earth-stupid, off-brand fascist goof shit.

 

We didn't make Biden the President. You did.

[claptonrocks]

2 hours ago, T-Dub said:

 

I think the disagreement lies in deciding one side is entirely evil and the other side entirely perfect in order to justify wholesale slaughter of innocent civilians in a place you've never been and don't seem to know much about. Then casually reject the opinion of experts whenever it doesn't match your halfbaked opinion on the subject.

 

Almost like a war movie is still too nuanced for you and you want to enjoy the vicarious surge of righteous anger in seeing someone not exactly like you getting bombed.

 

You want to talk about evil? I don't think you do.

 

 

Disagree with Everything you said .

You come  across  as a liberal socialist.

Your pacifist views are weak.

 

Allways ready to pounce if they don't agree with your rhetoric..

 

Be it's ok..we all have views

 

 

 

[T-Dub]

8 minutes ago, claptonrocks said:

Disagree with Everything you said .

You come  across  as a liberal socialist.

Your pacifist views are weak.

 

Allways ready to pounce if they don't agree with your rhetoric..

 

Be it's ok..we all have views

 

 

 

 

Right right, I am pathetic & weak but also so dangerous and threatening I must be stopped at any cost. Textbook fascism.

[claptonrocks]

1 minute ago, T-Dub said:

 

Right right, I am pathetic & weak but also so dangerous and threatening I must be stopped at any cost. Textbook fascism.

You and others love to sling the word fascist around.

 

I don't think your dangerous or threatening aside from your views.

Never used the word pathetic either.

 

Your pacifism about conflicts are a red flag of weakness .

 

Whatever.enjoy your freedom here by the veterans who fought and died to make it so.

 

[T-Dub]

14 minutes ago, claptonrocks said:

You and others love to sling the word fascist around.

 

I don't think your dangerous or threatening aside from your views.

Never used the word pathetic either.

 

Your pacifism about conflicts are a red flag of weakness .

 

Whatever.enjoy your freedom here by the veterans who fought and died to make it so.

 

 

Yes yes everyone you disagree with is weak and not a big strong man like you, something -something "the troops."

 

No one is "slinging the word" fascism. The views you are expressing are definitively fascist. That is what the word means. If you don't like how well that shoe fits you that's not my problem.

 

Imagine thinking "pacifist" is an insult instead. Get help dude.

[claptonrocks]

9 minutes ago, T-Dub said:

 

Yes yes everyone you disagree with is weak and not a big strong man like you, something -something "the troops."

 

No one is "slinging the word" fascism. The views you are expressing are definitively fascist. That is what the word means. If you don't like how well that shoe fits you that's not my problem.

 

Imagine thinking "pacifist" is an insult instead. Get help dude.

Likewise dude.

 

[Jamie_B]

It's wild to me that not wanting to have WW3 come or thinking that there is guilt with both Israel and Hamas in this conflict somehow equates to being "weak"

 

I suppose that when you are bloodthirsty......

 

Of course this kind of blood thirst is how we got into Iraq despite it having nothing to do with 9/11

 

And of course that whole region has been even more fucked up since....

 

Some people learn nothing from our mistakes.

[T-Dub]

46 minutes ago, Jamie_B said:

It's wild to me that not wanting to have WW3 come or thinking that there is guilt with both Israel and Hamas in this conflict somehow equates to being "weak"

 

I suppose that when you are bloodthirsty......

 

Of course this kind of blood thirst is how we got into Iraq despite it having nothing to do with 9/11

 

And of course that whole region has been even more fucked up since....

 

Some people learn nothing from our mistakes

 

 

Loudly hating what they perceive as weak is what frightened weak people try to project as strength.  Compassion is toughness, not this sad assed rageaholic display of parroted propaganda we're witnessing.

 

It's hard to reason with an "us vs them" mentality when anyone attempting to inject some sense of nuance is a "them" by default.

 

I don't think I know near everything about this situation either but at least I'm aware of my ignorance. I can try to educate myself instead of being angry & defensive about it.

[claptonrocks]

2 hours ago, T-Dub said:

 

 

Loudly hating what they perceive as weak is what frightened weak people try to project as strength.  Compassion is toughness, not this sad assed rageaholic display of parroted propaganda we're witnessing.

 

It's hard to reason with an "us vs them" mentality when anyone attempting to inject some sense of nuance is a "them" by default.

 

I don't think I know near everything about this situation either but at least I'm aware of my ignorance. I can try to educate myself instead of being angry & defensive about it.

You've reduced yourself to name calling attacks which means nothing to me.

 

You talk about compassion but you 

sidestep any compassion for Israel.

Typical liberal socialist propaganda out of you... nothing new there.

 

You only educate yourself with what coincides with your beliefs.

 

 

 

 

[T-Dub]

3 hours ago, claptonrocks said:

You've reduced yourself to name calling attacks which means nothing to me.

 

You talk about compassion but you 

sidestep any compassion for Israel.

Typical liberal socialist propaganda out of you... nothing new there.

 

You only educate yourself with what coincides with your beliefs.

 

 

 

 

 

Not too concerned with the opinions of someone who keeps calling people animals and savages. You clearly don't know what "liberal" or "socialist" means, they're just more scare words to throw at people. 

 

My beliefs are based on my education, not the other way around. You should try it instead of projecting your glaring insecurities on others.

[Go Skins]

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