claptonrocks Posted November 18, 2023 Report Posted November 18, 2023 9 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: With the Palestinians getting another free and fair election to vote out Hamas amd with Netanyahu replaced. Both sides need leadership that is serious about the peace process. And foe Isreal that might mean treating the Palestinian people as more than prisoners in their own home Fair enough.. Quote
Homer_Rice Posted November 19, 2023 Report Posted November 19, 2023 5 hours ago, Jamie_B said: With the Palestinians getting another free and fair election to vote out Hamas amd with Netanyahu replaced. Both sides need leadership that is serious about the peace process. And foe Isreal that might mean treating the Palestinian people as more than prisoners in their own home Jamie, I'm surprised at you. Who killed Yitzak Rabin? Quote
Jamie_B Posted November 19, 2023 Report Posted November 19, 2023 3 hours ago, Homer_Rice said: Jamie, I'm surprised at you. Who killed Yitzak Rabin? Many think Netanyahu, would not shock me at all. Quote
claptonrocks Posted November 19, 2023 Report Posted November 19, 2023 51 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: The UN has become a weak unit. Noone cares what the fuck they say or expect now.. Israel will continue to fight Hamas until they're certain all the vile is exterminated. Until that happens the war will go on . Quote
claptonrocks Posted November 21, 2023 Report Posted November 21, 2023 Israel and the Hamas tentatively agree to ceasefire and hostage swapping. Hamas has a 3 yr old girl hostage after killing her parents. I'd think she'd be first to be swapped . It's a start.. Quote
Jamie_B Posted November 21, 2023 Report Posted November 21, 2023 Glad to hear this. Hopefully, they get serious about the Peace process, but with Hamas and Netanyahu in charge of their respective sides, I kinda doubt it. Quote
claptonrocks Posted November 21, 2023 Report Posted November 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Jamie_B said: Glad to hear this. Hopefully, they get serious about the Peace process, but with Hamas and Netanyahu in charge of their respective sides, I kinda doubt it. Agree Their mission doesn't stop at this.. Quote
claptonrocks Posted November 24, 2023 Report Posted November 24, 2023 Today is ceasefire in Gaza to exchange hostages. Israel's humanitarian effort to get innocent victims free again. I'm hoping/praying that the 3y r old will come out first. Quote
claptonrocks Posted November 26, 2023 Report Posted November 26, 2023 19 more hostages released by Hamas today. One was the 3 yr old little girl I took notice of. Killed her parents and took her. She was Freed today God love her.. This is so beyond humane.. Quote
Go Skins Posted November 27, 2023 Report Posted November 27, 2023 https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/26/us/palestinian-students-shot-vermont-investigation-monday/index.html Quote
Jamie_B Posted November 27, 2023 Report Posted November 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Go Skins said: https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/26/us/palestinian-students-shot-vermont-investigation-monday/index.html This stuff always causes a rise in hate crimes. It's disgusting. 1 Quote
Go Skins Posted November 27, 2023 Report Posted November 27, 2023 25 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: This stuff always causes a rise in hate crimes. It's disgusting. You're not wrong. I don't get it. Why do people want to ruin their lives? Quote
Jamie_B Posted November 27, 2023 Report Posted November 27, 2023 16 minutes ago, Go Skins said: You're not wrong. I don't get it. Why do people want to ruin their lives? Because they are bigots. 1 Quote
PatternMaster Posted November 28, 2023 Author Report Posted November 28, 2023 On 11/24/2023 at 1:34 AM, claptonrocks said: Today is ceasefire in Gaza to exchange hostages. Israel's humanitarian effort to get innocent victims free again. I'm hoping/praying that the 3y r old will come out first. How do you feel about the Isrealis releasing Palenstinian hostages Quote
claptonrocks Posted November 28, 2023 Report Posted November 28, 2023 35 minutes ago, PatternMaster said: How do you feel about the Isrealis releasing Palenstinian hostages I think the present 3 to 1 ratiio in exchanges isn't right but Hamas needs Innocent souls as sheilds because once this is over Israel will annilate Gaza to a point Noone will want to live in the rubble left. Quote
PatternMaster Posted November 28, 2023 Author Report Posted November 28, 2023 1 hour ago, claptonrocks said: I think the present 3 to 1 ratiio in exchanges isn't right but Hamas needs Innocent souls as sheilds because once this is over Israel will annilate Gaza to a point Noone will want to live in the rubble left. Interesting...so did it ever occur to you that October 7th was an action that was aimed at getting back the over 2,000 women and children being held hostage by Israel? Quote
PatternMaster Posted November 28, 2023 Author Report Posted November 28, 2023 https://theintercept.com/2022/07/13/israel-rachel-corrie-shireen-abu-akleh-killings/ Quote EARLY TWO DECADES before Israeli forces killed Palestinian American journalist Shireen Abu Akleh, shooting a single bullet into her head while she was reporting from the occupied West Bank city of Jenin, an Israeli soldier drove a bulldozer over American peace activist Rachel Corrie, crushing her to death. Both killings left little real doubt about the dynamics at play. Abu Akleh was standing with a group of colleagues, wearing a vest clearly marked “PRESS,” nowhere near the fighting that had taken place earlier that morning. Corrie was nonviolently protesting the demolition of a Palestinian family’s home in Gaza. She was wearing a fluorescent orange jacket with reflective stripes and had been on the scene for several hours, at times speaking into a megaphone. Quote
PatternMaster Posted November 28, 2023 Author Report Posted November 28, 2023 https://apnews.com/article/palestinians-israel-prisoner-exchange-hostage-92545883b1fef86fb9b34549b7deca58 Quote Tears fell down his father Khalil Brahma’s cheeks as he brought his son down from his shoulders and looked him in the eye for the first time in seven months. Israeli forces had arrested Jamal at his home in the Palestinian city of Jericho last spring and detained him without charge or trial.... Quote A prisoner release touches Palestinian society to its core. Almost every Palestinian has a relative in jail – or has been there himself. Human rights groups estimate that over 750,000 Palestinians have passed through Israeli prisons since Israel captured the West Bank, Gaza and east Jerusalem in 1967. Quote
PatternMaster Posted November 28, 2023 Author Report Posted November 28, 2023 There are over 7,500 Palestinian hostages being held by Israel in prisons, many are being held without any evidence or right to a trial....that is terrorism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_prisoners_in_Israel#:~:text=Israel holds about 4%2C500 Palestinian,the right to a trial. 1 Quote
claptonrocks Posted November 28, 2023 Report Posted November 28, 2023 3 hours ago, PatternMaster said: There are over 7,500 Palestinian hostages being held by Israel in prisons, many are being held without any evidence or right to a trial....that is terrorism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_prisoners_in_Israel#:~:text=Israel holds about 4%2C500 Palestinian,the right to a trial. I don't like the idea of detaining people against their will so Israeli is no Saint in humanitarian efforts. It's alll so inhumane in the Middle East. Ive never lived in countries like that. Doubt you have either. Quote
PatternMaster Posted November 28, 2023 Author Report Posted November 28, 2023 19 minutes ago, claptonrocks said: I don't like the idea of detaining people against their will so Israeli is no Saint in humanitarian efforts. It's alll so inhumane in the Middle East. Ive never lived in countries like that. Doubt you have ever. We are currently living in a country that does that...it doesn't happen to people who look like you but it does happen to people who look like me and other "minorities"... Quote
claptonrocks Posted November 28, 2023 Report Posted November 28, 2023 1 hour ago, PatternMaster said: We are currently living in a country that does that...it doesn't happen to people who look like you but it does happen to people who look like me and other "minorities"... I understand how fuckin ignorant people are in general.. I've often thought if people never mentioned race in a derogatory way would feelings sooth out. Quote
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