Current State of things

[T-Dub]

2 hours ago, Shebengal said:

I’m not crazy about a lot of the things that Democrats did, either. I didn’t vote for Harris because she was a horrible candidate. But the orange troll and his sidekick, instead of trying to remake these agencies to be more efficient, are throwing out the baby with the bath water. It seems that there has been some wasteful spending at USAID, but there was other spending that did some legitimate good, and that’s going away. They now are targeting the Department of Education and want to completely eliminate it also. So guess what? You eliminate the DOE? The kid with ADHD, or the kid with autism, they can kiss their IEPs goodbye. In the Republicans’ efforts to dismantle DEI programs, they forget that inclusion includes people with disabilities. Are they eliminating programs to help them, too? I think that we would all agree that people with disabilities are much better served by programs that help make them productive citizens instead of a drain on the social welfare programs that the Republicans want to “reform “. 
 

My main problem is that the pendulum is swinging far too right from being far too left. Why can’t this government find a middle ground? 

 

 

I'd argue that what's been painted as "Far Left" or even "radical" would be considered moderate or even conservative under any normal circumstances.

 

What did Biden or Obama do that was far left?

[MichaelWeston]

On 2/7/2025 at 1:01 PM, claptonrocks said:

Musk cleaning out USAID .

Just a start in clearly out the waste in gov.

Trump exec orders bring America back to

what it should be.

 

Yeah you know..

Why is USAID waste?

[|Montana Bengal|]

1 hour ago, MichaelWeston said:

Why is USAID waste?

 

Much of what Leon is identifying is waste mainly because he says so.

 

I know they are hitting NiH pretty hard at this point.  I haven't looked at how much he is involved with that, but I think what they are targeting is indirect costs.  Support people, building costs, lab safety, etc. 

[T-Dub]

23 hours ago, Montana Bengal said:

 

Much of what Leon is identifying is waste mainly because he says so.

 

I know they are hitting NiH pretty hard at this point.  I haven't looked at how much he is involved with that, but I think what they are targeting is indirect costs.  Support people, building costs, lab safety, etc. 

 

Musk's companies received around $3 billion from government contracts last year. If this cryptofascist nerd wants to eliminate wasteful spending let's start there.

 

Nobody voted for Elon Musk. Why the fuck are we letting some illegal immigrant control the US budget? Because he & Donnie have a shared love of raping children?

 

Creep should be strapped to one of his rockets.

[|Montana Bengal|]

5 minutes ago, T-Dub said:

 

Musk's companies received around $3 billion from government contracts last year. If this cryptofascist nerd wants to eliminate wasteful spending let's start there.

 

Nobody voted for Elon Musk. Why the fuck are we letting some illegal immigrant control the US budget? Because he & Donnie have a shared love of raping children?

 

Creep should be strapped to one of his rockets.

 

 

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It is estimated that the President of the United States spent between $15 million and $20 million due to the cost of secret service, and air travel and motorcade, as well as local law enforcement and improvements to stadium security.

 

[T-Dub]

Every trip to Mar-a-Lardass nets him several million dollars.  You'd have to be pretty fucking dense to believe a lifelong con artist like Donald Trump has any notions of fiscal responsibility.  His goal is an uneducated white ethnostate in service to billionaires. Anything that doesn't serve his interests directy is useless in his piggy little mind.

[Jamie_B]

Leon talking about impeaching the judge that told him he had to destroy the data he and his kids collected from Treasury. JD Vance is getting dragged for talking about how the judge isnt allowed to control the Executive's power. It's hilarious to watch. 

 

 

[Shebengal]

Now they’re going after the CPFB.

 

Because God forbid that people be protected from banks being unscrupulous. 😳🙄

 

https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp/shows/maddow/blog/rcna191526

 

And the budget director in charge of it is one of the authors of Project 2025.

Also, and this one hits me and every other scholarship student or parent of a scholarship student personally, the Republicans are proposing taxing college scholarships!!!

 

https://apnews.com/article/trump-administration-education-college-loans-532d52c2ccac8b4be459f7797fb63a73

 

So, you work hard in high school, get good grades, participate in extracurricular activities, build up a resume worthy of attaining a scholarship, and the Republicans want to reward your hard work by taxing it??? WTF??? They want to make it even harder for students to afford college? 
 

Guess they need to make sure that America’s brightest can’t get the education to get the jobs that can go to foreign workers on H1B visas. 
 

This one REALLY pisses me off!!!

 

[T-Dub]

1 hour ago, Shebengal said:

Now they’re going after the CPFB.

 

Because God forbid that people be protected from banks being unscrupulous. 😳🙄

 

https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp/shows/maddow/blog/rcna191526

 

And the budget director in charge of it is one of the authors of Project 2025.

Also, and this one hits me and every other scholarship student or parent of a scholarship student personally, the Republicans are proposing taxing college scholarships!!!

 

https://apnews.com/article/trump-administration-education-college-loans-532d52c2ccac8b4be459f7797fb63a73

 

So, you work hard in high school, get good grades, participate in extracurricular activities, build up a resume worthy of attaining a scholarship, and the Republicans want to reward your hard work by taxing it??? WTF??? They want to make it even harder for students to afford college? 
 

Guess they need to make sure that America’s brightest can’t get the education to get the jobs that can go to foreign workers on H1B visas. 
 

This one REALLY pisses me off!!!

 

 

A higher percentage of scholarships are reserved for disadvantaged kids, those facing historic discriminatory admissions policies, children of refugees, etc.

 

Now that they've legalized the discrimination again they're going after the people who are already in the universities.

 

All about maintaining an underclass that can be easily exploited for their labor while blaming everyone beneath them for their predicament.

 

 

[T-Dub]

5 hours ago, Jamie_B said:

Leon talking about impeaching the judge that told him he had to destroy the data he and his kids collected from Treasury. JD Vance is getting dragged for talking about how the judge isnt allowed to control the Executive's power. It's hilarious to watch. 

 

 

 

 

Can't imagine where he got the crazy notion that the separation of powers or rule of law in general didn't apply to him.  

 

Almost like it effectively hasn't, doesn't, and won't ever?

 

I don't find it hilarious at all.  My Dad was a Vietnam vet, I'm not naive about our country, but I was still raise to believed there was something to it.  That our democracy was worth preserving, that all men are created equal, that we have no king or emperor that is above the law.. That our Constitution may be flawed but no matter our differences we all agreed it was our best collective effort so far at the very idea of being a nation.

 

So to see a gang of crooks take control with no true regard for any of that, openly mocking it in fact, is frankly revolting.

[Jamie_B]

9 minutes ago, T-Dub said:

 

 

Can't imagine where he got the crazy notion that the separation of powers or rule of law in general didn't apply to him.  

 

Almost like it effectively hasn't, doesn't, and won't ever?

 

 

Vance said they would defy the courts months ago.

 

https://www.courthousenews.com/amid-mounting-legal-battles-vance-questions-judicial-authority/

[T-Dub]

3 minutes ago, Jamie_B said:

 

 

Vance said they would defy the courts months ago.

 

https://www.courthousenews.com/amid-mounting-legal-battles-vance-questions-judicial-authority/

 

Well, yeah. The Supreme Court is openly corrupt.  I question their authority, too.

[Jamie_B]

I was waiting on this. 

 

Anonymous has entered the chat.

 

 

 

[T-Dub]

13 minutes ago, Jamie_B said:

I was waiting on this. 

 

Anonymous has entered the chat.

 

 

 

 

 

Tip of the ol' shitberg.  Can't keep brazenly violating the law while expecting everyone else to respect it. 

 

They somehow think they're going to lock up any voice of dissent and have us all working for Amazon, WalMart & Whole Foods for free. 

 

 

[Shebengal]

1 hour ago, T-Dub said:

 

A higher percentage of scholarships are reserved for disadvantaged kids, those facing historic discriminatory admissions policies, children of refugees, etc.

 

Now that they've legalized the discrimination again they're going after the people who are already in the universities.

 

All about maintaining an underclass that can be easily exploited for their labor while blaming everyone beneath them for their predicament.

 

 

I figured that was part of it, but there’s going to be a lot of students not in these groups also affected. 
 

Amazing how many people who voted for the orange troll, thinking that he would take care of them, are going to get screwed. 

[MichaelWeston]

Does anyone have any specifics on what they are cutting?

[Shebengal]

1 hour ago, T-Dub said:

 

 

Can't imagine where he got the crazy notion that the separation of powers or rule of law in general didn't apply to him.  

 

Almost like it effectively hasn't, doesn't, and won't ever?

 

I don't find it hilarious at all.  My Dad was a Vietnam vet, I'm not naive about our country, but I was still raise to believed there was something to it.  That our democracy was worth preserving, that all men are created equal, that we have no king or emperor that is above the law.. That our Constitution may be flawed but no matter our differences we all agreed it was our best collective effort so far at the very idea of being a nation.

 

So to see a gang of crooks take control with no true regard for any of that, openly mocking it in fact, is frankly revolting.

He probably got the crazy idea from the SCOTUS that last year ruled that the president had immunity. 
 

Again, the orange troll and the so-called hillbilly need to read the Constitution they took an oath to defend. Some of the judges ruling against them were appointed by Republican presidents. 

[Jamie_B]

1 hour ago, MichaelWeston said:

Does anyone have any specifics on what they are cutting?

 

Right now it's all talk, Elon has no real authority and Judges have already told him to stop and destroy what he has done. The real test will be the budget battle next month I imagine they might come to a deal for cuts but think/hope the Dems wont let them shut down any agency. The question will be then will Elon double down or get frustrated that the government doesn't run like a business and he is not CEO of  it and even if he is a "Shadow President" he still has limits to his power. Now if Trump is serious about ignoring the courts, that could get ugly. 

[Jamie_B]

 

 

By the way, this is a Reagan-appointed judge.

 

[T-Dub]

5 minutes ago, Jamie_B said:

 

 

By the way, this is a Reagan-appointed judge. And he had a lot more to say.

 

I don't need to hear anything else, clearly this man is an evil member of the Radical Left if he said such things about our Dear Leader.

 

[T-Dub]

1 hour ago, Shebengal said:

I figured that was part of it, but there’s going to be a lot of students not in these groups also affected. 
 

Amazing how many people who voted for the orange troll, thinking that he would take care of them, are going to get screwed. 

 

So long as the people they've decided are their enemies are seen to suffer more they don't care

[Jamie_B]

BTW I got that from here, she talks about all the lawsuits and things that have been blocked.

 

 

[T-Dub]

6 minutes ago, Jamie_B said:

BTW I got that from here, she talks about all the lawsuits and things that have been blocked.

 

 

 

 

Dear God look at Musk in that photo.  I think he's like 10-15% ketamine by body weight.

[Jamie_B]

10 hours ago, T-Dub said:

 

 

Dear God look at Musk in that photo.  I think he's like 10-15% ketamine by body weight.

 

I've always seen that pic of him and though "French Fried Pertarders"

[claptonrocks]

On 2/9/2025 at 9:26 AM, Shebengal said:

I’m not crazy about a lot of the things that Democrats did, either. I didn’t vote for Harris because she was a horrible candidate. But the orange troll and his sidekick, instead of trying to remake these agencies to be more efficient, are throwing out the baby with the bath water. It seems that there has been some wasteful spending at USAID, but there was other spending that did some legitimate good, and that’s going away. They now are targeting the Department of Education and want to completely eliminate it also. So guess what? You eliminate the DOE? The kid with ADHD, or the kid with autism, they can kiss their IEPs goodbye. In the Republicans’ efforts to dismantle DEI programs, they forget that inclusion includes people with disabilities. Are they eliminating programs to help them, too? I think that we would all agree that people with disabilities are much better served by programs that help make them productive citizens instead of a drain on the social welfare programs that the Republicans want to “reform “. 
 

My main problem is that the pendulum is swinging far too right from being far too left. Why can’t this government find a middle ground? 

President Trump is dealing for hostages and many coming home.

Do you approve of his actions?

 

Do you approve of finding  taxpayer monies to an Agency 

that has wasted and never audited ?

Every look at where the waste was?

 

 

 

Don't you want a transparent Administration instead of 

being lied to?