Cricket Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 [quote name='WhoDeyUK' post='565627' date='Oct 9 2007, 05:35 AM']It's been posted so many times, I'm not going to bother to do the research for you again. You can go look it up for yourself. This team has spent up to the cap for at least the last 5 years or so, and has extended the contracts of its key players also. Not sure what else you expect. You know, you being a sourpuss isn't what makes you an ass. What makes you an ass is that when facts are presented to enlighten you in response to your bullshit posts, you don't actually bother to read them and learn something. [b]It really gets old.[/b][/quote] ...and the rest of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LudwigVan Kubrick Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 [quote name='oldschooler' post='565353' date='Oct 8 2007, 05:04 PM']What ? You`re saying that if the Bengals had more scouts, that Henry would have had yards last week ? Or are you saying that he wouldn`t have been drafted ? Either way, that`s stupid.[/quote] I am saying that for one reason or another, we reach and take chances on character guys. Smallish scouting dept would be my first guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 [quote name='LudwigVan Kubrick' post='565769' date='Oct 9 2007, 10:41 AM']I am saying that for one reason or another, we reach and take chances on character guys. Smallish scouting dept would be my first guess.[/quote] A lot of teams draft character players with first round talent, in the later rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredtoast Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 [quote name='LudwigVan Kubrick' post='565769' date='Oct 9 2007, 11:41 AM']I am saying that for one reason or another, we reach and take chances on character guys. Smallish scouting dept would be my first guess.[/quote] You mean like that punk ass Brandon Meriweather? Which stupid team drafted him this year? I bet they don't have shit for a scouting department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LudwigVan Kubrick Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 [quote name='oldschooler' post='565775' date='Oct 9 2007, 11:49 AM']A lot of teams draft character players with first round talent, in the later rounds.[/quote] true but ours seem to work out for the better a lot less than other teams. And I'm tired of blaming all the Bengals problems on dumb luck, they are out to get us, etc. After a while, the BS wears thin and there has to be some accountability. And it isn't hard to find lack of commitment to winning, and it starts right from the top and trickles down. Again, I think people confuse cause and effect when diagnosing the Bengals problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 [quote name='fredtoast' post='565907' date='Oct 9 2007, 06:24 PM']You mean like that punk ass Brandon Meriweather? Which stupid team drafted him this year? I bet they don't have shit for a scouting department.[/quote] Is it me or did I hear somewhere that we were warned about taking Merriweather or other players with issues? If it is true then that is really fucked up because if players aren't available for all teams to draft then why in the hell are they allowed to enter the draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 [quote name='Storm' post='566139' date='Oct 9 2007, 06:53 PM']Is it me or did I hear somewhere that we were warned about taking Merriweather or other players with issues? If it is true then that is really fucked up because if players aren't available for all teams to draft then why in the hell are they allowed to enter the draft?[/quote] I don't know that Merriweather was specifically mentioned, but I remember hearing that the Bengals draft decisions would be under scrutiny by the league from a character standpoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 [quote name='Bengals1181' post='566146' date='Oct 9 2007, 11:09 PM']I don't know that Merriweather was specifically mentioned, but I remember hearing that the Bengals draft decisions would be under scrutiny by the league from a character standpoint.[/quote] If that is indeed true then the league should just make a list of players the Bengals are not allowed to draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-GoBengals- Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 funny, thier department was just as big when they were 6-10 here is the texans,,, Grier, Bobby Associate Director of Pro Scouting Strahm, Dale Director of College Scouting Olsen, Chris Director of Football Administration Bastin, Kevin Head Athletic Trainer Brunetti, Jay Director of Equipment Services Sparacino, Ken Director of Video Operations Washington, Sean Director of Player Development Richards, Lloyd Director of Football Operations Malota, Joe Assistant Director of Video Operations Gardner, Brian Director of Pro Personnel Maccagnan, Mike Coordinator of College Scouting Wells, Robert Video Operations Assistant Zullick, Don Football Administration Coordinator Snell, Christian Equipment Services Assistant Ishop, Jon Assistant Athletic Trainer Grupp, Matt Assistant Director, Equipment Services Bryan, Larry Western Regional Scout Hudspeth, Brian Southern Regional Scout Lowe, Dr. Walter Team Physician Clanton, Dr. Tom Team Orthopedist Lintner, Dr. David Team Orthopedist Muntz, Dr. James Team Internist Braunreiter, Dr. David Team Internist Spangler, Dr. William Team Emergency Physician O'Brien, Dr. Tom Team Dentist Harper, Dr. Dana Team Chiropractor Anding, Roberta Team Dietician Honn, Joni Team Massage Therapist Tyler, Greg Team Chaplain Colt, Tom Asst. Athletic Trainer, Crd. of Rehab Davies, Amber Administrative Assistant, Scouting Merritt, Bob College Scout Martin, Mike College Scout Hunt, Brandon Pro Scout Carr, Jon College Scout Beers, Bob College Scout Lambert, Ed College Scout Murphy, Kevin Pro Scout Kohler, Mari Jo Administrative Assistant, Pro and College Scouting West, Doug Operations Manager Wilbanks, Susan Administrative Assistant, Football Operations and the bengals was the same when they won the division and went 11-5. what the fucking point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LudwigVan Kubrick Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 [quote name='GoBengals' post='566191' date='Oct 9 2007, 08:45 PM']what the fucking point?[/quote] The point is, if you are the Bengals, you try to get by with the least amount possible. Makes solid business sense, and lousy NFL Football sense. Not much of a debate here though... Yes the Bengals can get by with the scouts they have, no matter how few they have compared to the rest of the league. They are getting by quite well, actually. Quite well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-GoBengals- Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 [quote name='LudwigVan Kubrick' post='566256' date='Oct 9 2007, 10:37 PM']The point is, if you are the Bengals, you try to get by with the least amount possible. Makes solid business sense, and lousy NFL Football sense. Not much of a debate here though... Yes the Bengals can get by with the scouts they have, no matter how few they have compared to the rest of the league. They are getting by quite well, actually. Quite well.[/quote] the quality of the people you have far outweighs the quantity, the colts have gone 6-10 with double the staff and the bengals ahve gone 11-5 with half the staff, aside from the new nazi charector rules, the bengals under marv have done outstanding work drafting players, and under tags the offenders would be playing with little to no backlash. so its tough to fault the bengals for not predicting the future commish and his nazi ways, but the chargers i think had more arrests than we did, tank johnson, pacman, and countless others, everyone was hurt by it, its not bad scouting, those are pretty damn good players, that would be helping us win quite a bit... its silliness and bitter grumpass banter. nothing less nothing more. nor can scouting predict injuries, but you know thats had zero effect on the season thus far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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