JC Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 I watched a highlight tape on Hill yesterday and he looked so finesse for such a big guy. I wasn't a fan. I want someone who wants to hit linebackers and crush them if they want to replace BJGE eventually. Regarding Pryor, he doesn't wrap up very much. Always looking for that KO. Would definitely make people think twice about going over the middle or tip-toeing that sideline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted February 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 I watched a highlight tape on Hill yesterday and he looked so finesse for such a big guy. I wasn't a fan. I want someone who wants to hit linebackers and crush them if they want to replace BJGE eventually. Regarding Pryor, he doesn't wrap up very much. Always looking for that KO. Would definitely make people think twice about going over the middle or tip-toeing that sideline. yea the little I've seen of Pryor, I don't know if he'll be able to get away with the way he plays in today's NFL. One video I watched, in 2 minutes he had at least 5 hits that would get flagged in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishBengal Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 yea the little I've seen of Pryor, I don't know if he'll be able to get away with the way he plays in today's NFL. One video I watched, in 2 minutes he had at least 5 hits that would get flagged in the NFL. Reggie Nelson had exactly the same knock coming out, but he's turned out ok. With good coaching, Pryor could turn out the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alleycat Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Pryor is a game changer. Closest thing to Earl Thomas in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishBengal Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Just for you 1181, some Calvin Pryor videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzHPP54WvUI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3y2XwXujkk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjDx1ysE7lw Looking at the videos some more, Pryor's tackling reminds me a lot of Matt Elam when he was coming out. He's not great but he isn't bad at it either. Also, like Elam, Pryor has things you cannot teach - physicality, intensity, and smarts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted February 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 thanks, have you found any straight up play by play videos? Everyone looks good in highlight videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishBengal Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 thanks, have you found any straight up play by play videos? Everyone looks good in highlight videos. Unfortunately not. The ones posted seem to be the best ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted February 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 here's one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPhj3CoKSwM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishBengal Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Dee Ford - First time I've watched him and I like him a lot. He has a little bit of Dwight Freeney about him. Fast and relentless, but limited in run game (might be due to size). I prefer him to Kony Ealy. Ford would thrive as a rotational player in the Bengals D-line rotation. He would be a good pick at 24 imo. The only gripe is his size. He's tall enough at 6-2 but at 252 lbs he would need to add at least 10 lbs if he's going to be effective as a full-time DE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted February 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 I like Ford but think 24 is a little high for him. I think you could get down around 30, pick up extra picks, and still get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Re Pryor, I saw a lot more leading with the shoulder than I would like, but he does make plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishBengal Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Charles Sims - really want him in stripes. Fast, great receiver and surprisingly physical despite taller lanky frame. He would cause matchup problems along with Gio out of the backfield, I think he'll be there in round 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alleycat Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Charles Sims - really want him in stripes. Fast, great receiver and surprisingly physical despite taller lanky frame. He would cause matchup problems along with Gio out of the backfield, I think he'll be there in round 3. Poor man's Darren McFadden IMO. I'm not to fond of his tiny hands though. Spells fumble troubles... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted February 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 here's another pryor video. his running make hakeem smith may also have a future. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2lLS4r_77g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted February 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Pryor looks like a nice prospect, but the more I watch him, the more I'm confident in saying he wouldn't have been one of the 5 best safeties in last year's class. Vacarro, Elam, Reid, and Cyprien are all better prospects. I like Swearinger a little more too since he can play nickel CB, but a case can be made for Pryor. He actually is very similar to Swearinger minus the nickel part IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted February 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 Zack Martin reminds me a lot of a young Whit. Definitely could see him being the pick if they lose Collins. Some think he can play every spot on the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 Zack Martin reminds me a lot of a young Whit. Definitely could see him being the pick if they lose Collins. Some think he can play every spot on the line. Thats what I think. Could be the same situation we had with Whit when he was young as well. Let Martin play guard until Whit can no longer cut it at LT. I really like Martin. I think the Phins are an obvious place for him, but would be very excited at adding him. Not many guys in this draft, at least where we are picking, are going to be able to come in and start from day 1 while also potentially being a pro-bowl caliber player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted March 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 RB Jeremy Hill - based just on the field, he's the 2nd or 3rd best RB in the draft. Exactly what the Bengals could use. CB Jaylen Watkins - add another corner who could go top 100. He'd be a nice add. DE Scott Crichton - really like his physical play. Plays with an attitude. Could be something special if he perfects his moves, particularly his edge dip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengaled Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Pryor looks like a nice prospect, but the more I watch him, the more I'm confident in saying he wouldn't have been one of the 5 best safeties in last year's class. Vacarro, Elam, Reid, and Cyprien are all better prospects. I like Swearinger a little more too since he can play nickel CB, but a case can be made for Pryor. He actually is very similar to Swearinger minus the nickel part IMO. would you agree that one of two things would have to be a truth... your above analysis, or that he's not worthy of the 24th pick in a draft that's considered much better than last year's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted March 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 would you agree that one of two things would have to be a truth... your above analysis, or that he's not worthy of the 24th pick in a draft that's considered much better than last year's? Last year I thought there were 3 top 25 caliber safeties, and being the top of your position group elevates you a tad especially if your position group is having a down class. I very well may be wrong, and probably am, I just think the top 3 guys for sure were better and there's a strong case for Cyprien and swearinger as well. And I fully admit I've seen a lot more tape of the 2013 guys. In the 2-3 full games I've watched of Pryor, he wasn't an impact on the game. His highlight reels obviously suggest otherwise, but it's dangerous only watching highlight reels of a guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 I think an argument could be made that Vaccaro was better than Pryor, but anyone else IMO, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishBengal Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Tre Mason - Impressed and fits our scheme but doubt we draft him, as we have his skill set in Gio. MInd you having both of them would scare the hell out of the opposition, so I wouldn't be opposed to it. Andre Williams - Yawn! He doesn't add anything to what we have in BJGE already. Noticed his o-line blocking made him look better than he probably really is. Carlos Hyde - He's the only back in the draft that ticks all the boxes if the Bengals are really serious about upgrading the run game (ie upgrade BJGE). We'd have to get him with our 2nd round pick as he won't be there by the time our 3rd round pick rolls round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted March 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Tre Mason - Impressed and fits our scheme but doubt we draft him, as we have his skill set in Gio. MInd you having both of them would scare the hell out of the opposition, so I wouldn't be opposed to it. Andre Williams - Yawn! He doesn't add anything to what we have in BJGE already. Noticed his o-line blocking made him look better than he probably really is. Carlos Hyde - He's the only back in the draft that ticks all the boxes if the Bengals are really serious about upgrading the run game (ie upgrade BJGE). We'd have to get him with our 2nd round pick as he won't be there by the time our 3rd round pick rolls round. so you don't think Williams would be an upgrade over BJGE? IMO He's bigger, faster, more physical, and of course younger. He also runs angry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishBengal Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 so you don't think Williams would be an upgrade over BJGE? IMO He's bigger, faster, more physical, and of course younger. He also runs angry. He's got stamina and he's faster but I think BJGE is better at breaking tackles TBH. He doesn't have any proven receiving skills either. Also, I do think his o-line made him look good a lot of the time. If he's there in rounds 4-5 maybe take a flier but at a push imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 My beef with Williams is he, like BJGE would limit the playbook. He can't catch. And I will be a little surprised if Hyde makes it to 55. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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