UDFA OFFICIAL LIST 2023

[membengal]

LOL - those teams partially guaranteeing contracts to UDFAs are already starting to get cut following rookie mini-camps -

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In the days after the draft concludes, much is made of the undrafted free agents who finagle significant guarantees. For some players, those guarantees don’t even guarantee a job until Memorial Day.

This year, multiple players with partially guaranteed contracts were released after participating in rookie minicamps.

The players who found themselves go from having partially guaranteed contracts to no employment as of Monday include Broncos defensive back Darrious Gaines, Broncos running back Emmanuel Wilson, Jaguars defensive end Jayson Ademilola, Dolphins tackle Jarrett Horst, and Dolphins tackle Alex Jensen.

It’s not a new dynamic. As one experienced evaluator of talent observed, it’s an annual ritual. Teams sign undrafted free agents, guarantee base salaries, and cut them after rookie minicamp.

“I wonder if owners even realize it,” the source remarked.

The players need to realize that the partial guarantee means nothing. One bad showing at rookie minicamp can be enough to get the team to conclude that, despite all information gathered during the pre-draft process, the player in question simply doesn’t have it.

Although dumping them quickly acknowledges that the decision to guarantee a portion of the contract was a mistake, it avoids the complication of doubling down, making one mistake into two by keeping a player on the team simply because he received a partially-guaranteed contract.

 

 

[sparky151]

Those guarantees usually have offsets in them so if the player signs somewhere else, it lets the first team off the hook, apart from the signing bonus. If team 2 cuts the player, then team 1 is back on the hook until team 3 claims him, etc. 

[T-Dub]

On 5/17/2023 at 7:25 AM, membengal said:

LOL - those teams partially guaranteeing contracts to UDFAs are already starting to get cut following rookie mini-camps -

 

 

 

Can any of them block?

[|High School Harry|]

7 hours ago, T-Dub said:

 

 

Can any of them block?

Can Joe Mixon?

[membengal]

Reader- he cannot. 

[T-Dub]

2 hours ago, High School Harry said:

Can Joe Mixon?

 

Sure he can. But he won't.

[Sea Ray]

Money like this means nothing to NFL owners. These signings have no impact on the salary cap. That's all that matters and I don't know how many owners even understand that

[MichaelWeston]

10 hours ago, Sea Ray said:

Money like this means nothing to NFL owners. These signings have no impact on the salary cap. That's all that matters and I don't know how many owners even understand that

How would this money have no impact on the salary cap?

[Sea Ray]

On 5/20/2023 at 11:30 PM, MichaelWeston said:

How would this money have no impact on the salary cap?

These guys are pretty much paid the minimum and those guys have no impact on the cap. The salary cap is determined by adding up the contracts of the top 51 players on your roster. The guys beyond that have no impact:

 

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The top-51 rule is simple: from the start of the new NFL league year in early March until the first week of the regular NFL season in September, only the 51 most expensive contracts actually count against a team’s salary cap. 

https://www.thefalcoholic.com/2020/6/2/21278326/nfl-top-51-rule-explained-how-much-cap-space-will-it-really-cost-to-sign-the-falcons-draft-class

[MichaelWeston]

1 hour ago, Sea Ray said:

These guys are pretty much paid the minimum and those guys have no impact on the cap. The salary cap is determined by adding up the contracts of the top 51 players on your roster. The guys beyond that have no impact:

 

https://www.thefalcoholic.com/2020/6/2/21278326/nfl-top-51-rule-explained-how-much-cap-space-will-it-really-cost-to-sign-the-falcons-draft-class

Thats salary. These are guaranteed contracts. I assume they count as bonuses?

[Sea Ray]

2 hours ago, MichaelWeston said:

That's salary. These are guaranteed contracts. I assume they count as bonuses?

If it's less than the salary of the salary of the 51st man would it even count?

[sparky151]

4 hours ago, MichaelWeston said:

Thats salary. These are guaranteed contracts. I assume they count as bonuses?

 

Teams are guaranteeing parts of the salary for some prized UDFAs. In effect they are guaranteeing them a job on the practice squad though the guarantee is subject to offset.

 

Bengals apparently only spent a total of $35K for all their UDFAs with 25K of that going to one player, a DT. It's not surprising we didn't get some of the better undrafted players.