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comment_1753407
4 minutes ago, Jamie_B said:

 

Had not seen that

 

Supposedly from his Instagram, hard to tell if it's legit with all the misinformation going around right now.  Like that non-cult members are responsible because of their "rhetoric".  It was the CIA, it was Antifa, it was a false flag, it was lizard people...

 

Gaslight harder, MAGAts.  Fact is you reap what you sow.

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comment_1753408
1 minute ago, T-Dub said:

 

Supposedly from his Instagram, hard to tell if it's legit with all the misinformation going around right now.  Like that non-cult members are responsible because of their "rhetoric".

 

Gaslight harder, MAGAts.  You reap what you sow.

 

I had head he had almost no social media presence at all so I'd take that with a grain of salt 

comment_1753409
2 minutes ago, Jamie_B said:

 

I had head he had almost no social media presence at all so I'd take that with a grain of salt 

 

At any rate MAGA complaining about violent rhetoric is fucking ridiculous & yet again I wish the Dems had the balls to say so instead of low-key apologizing.

 

Let's ask Gabby Giffords about "rhetoric."  FOH with that noise.

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comment_1753410
2 minutes ago, T-Dub said:

 

At any rate MAGA complaining about violent rhetoric is fucking ridiculous & yet again I wish the Dems had the balls to say so instead of low-key apologizing.

 

Let's ask Gabby Giffords about "rhetoric."  FOH with that noise.

 

I'd say it's embarrassing but I'm not sure these types cam be embarrassed 

comment_1753425
37 minutes ago, T-Dub said:

 

Goofy mf just made a guy who called him "America's Hitler" his VP.   The campaign ads write themselves!

Supposedly, Trump is rewriting his speech to call for unity within the country. He had a chance to take a step toward that goal by nominating a more distinguished VP choice, such as Doug Burgum. Instead, he nominates the millennial version of himself, only without all of the legal turmoil.

 

This is going to be interesting. Trump likes to be the center of attention. JD Vance is no shrinking violet. I wonder what will happen the first time Vance overshadows him in some way.

 

For the record, a hobby of mine is collecting and reading books about Ohio and Ohio authors. I didn’t even bother with “Hillbilly Elegy”. 

comment_1753432
27 minutes ago, Shebengal said:

Supposedly, Trump is rewriting his speech to call for unity within the country. He had a chance to take a step toward that goal by nominating a more distinguished VP choice, such as Doug Burgum. Instead, he nominates the millennial version of himself, only without all of the legal turmoil.

 

This is going to be interesting. Trump likes to be the center of attention. JD Vance is no shrinking violet. I wonder what will happen the first time Vance overshadows him in some way.

 

For the record, a hobby of mine is collecting and reading books about Ohio and Ohio authors. I didn’t even bother with “Hillbilly Elegy”. 

 

I have a strong hunch Vance has skeletons in his closet beyond some choice quotes about Diaper Donnie. They're so used to MAGA making excuses for any and all of Trump's behavior I think they assumed it would extend to his VP.  Cults generally don't do well with power sharing.

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comment_1753436
1 hour ago, Shebengal said:

Supposedly, Trump is rewriting his speech to call for unity within the country. He had a chance to take a step toward that goal by nominating a more distinguished VP choice, such as Doug Burgum. Instead, he nominates the millennial version of himself, only without all of the legal turmoil.

 

This is going to be interesting. Trump likes to be the center of attention. JD Vance is no shrinking violet. I wonder what will happen the first time Vance overshadows him in some way.

 

For the record, a hobby of mine is collecting and reading books about Ohio and Ohio authors. I didn’t even bother with “Hillbilly Elegy”. 

 

 

My sister and brother in law live in Middletown where Vance is from.

 

Expect that mid-west poverty and the opioid crisis to be talked about.

 

As to Vance himself, he's pretty much a suckup who said he would have done what Pence didn't on Jan 6.

 

My suspicion is Trump chose him because he strokes Trump's ego.

comment_1753437
14 minutes ago, Jamie_B said:

 

 

My sister and brother in law live in Middletown where Vance is from.

 

Expect that mid-west poverty and the opioid crisis to be talked about.

 

As to Vance himself, he's pretty much a suckup who said he would have done what Pence didn't on Jan 6.

 

My suspicion is Trump chose him because he strokes Trump's ego.

 

He also likes to talk about the "white working class" so he checks that box.   Expect the opioid epidemic to be blamed on immigration & not doctors getting paid to hand them out like candy.  Hell if you listen to Trump lately everything is about "immigration" which for Republicans is just a dog whistle for non-whites.   

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comment_1753438
Just now, T-Dub said:

 

He also likes to talk about the "white working class" so he checks that box.   Expect the opioid epidemic to be blamed on immigration & not doctors getting paid to hand them out like candy.  Hell if you listen to Trump lately everything is about "immigration" which for Republicans is just a dog whistle for non-whites.   

 

Wont surprise me one bit

comment_1753444
5 minutes ago, claptonrocks said:

Dems have no leadership.

Hundreds of factions .

 

It probably does look that way from inside a cult.  There are quite a few strong voices in the party, but like the Republicans they are hostage to corporate donors that control the party leadership & unlike them, no one is blindly dedicated to a single egomaniac.  Fuck's sake, Moscow Mitch stacked the Supreme Court & kept Trump out of prison on multiple occasions yet the entire convention booed the guy off stage.  Talk about eating their own.

 

On the plus side, none of the Dems visited Epstein's island 70 (!) times, so that's nice.

comment_1753445
6 minutes ago, T-Dub said:

 

It probably does look that way from inside a cult.  There are quite a few strong voices in the party, but like the Republicans they are hostage to corporate donors that control the party leadership & unlike them, no one is blindly dedicated to a single egomaniac.  Fuck's sake, Moscow Mitch stacked the Supreme Court & kept Trump out of prison on multiple occasions yet the entire convention booed the guy off stage.  Talk about eating their own.

 

On the plus side, none of the Dems visited Epstein's island 70 (!) times, so that's nice.

Who's the best candidate for the job?

Bipartisan pls.

comment_1753447
11 minutes ago, claptonrocks said:

Who's the best candidate for the job?

Bipartisan pls.

 

"Bipartisan" is very loaded in this case. I'm not interested in appealing to the extreme right.  Fascism and Christian White Nationalism are ideologies to be defeated entirely.  There's no negotiating to be done there.  That sort of thing needs to be chased back under the rock it crawled out from, period.

 

That aside, I think Newsome or Buttigieg would both be stronger candidates than Biden.  Neither are perfect by any stretch, but they are both well spoken, mentally sound individuals with strong track records.  More importantly, both have shown they have the balls to call Trump out on his nonstop torrent of spiteful bullshit.  You may hate it but with someone like AOC as VP to energize the extremely disillusioned 18-30 voters, they'd very likely kick the shit out of Trump/Vance (assuming they don't implode on their own in the next few months, which seems entirely possible.)

comment_1753448
35 minutes ago, T-Dub said:

 

"Bipartisan" is very loaded in this case. I'm not interested in appealing to the extreme right.  Fascism and Christian White Nationalism are ideologies to be defeated entirely.  There's no negotiating to be done there.  That sort of thing needs to be chased back under the rock it crawled out from, period.

 

That aside, I think Newsome or Buttigieg would both be stronger candidates than Biden.  Neither are perfect by any stretch, but they are both well spoken, mentally sound individuals with strong track records.  More importantly, both have shown they have the balls to call Trump out on his nonstop torrent of spiteful bullshit.  You may hate it but with someone like AOC as VP to energize the extremely disillusioned 18-30 voters, they'd very likely kick the shit out of Trump/Vance (assuming they don't implode on their own in the next few months, which seems entirely possible.)

Fair enough.

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comment_1753457
9 hours ago, claptonrocks said:

He donated to a extreme lib group.

 

 

15 dollars to Act Blue that was designated to progressive turnout project, which is hardly "extremely liberal"

 

The kids classmates have come out saying things like he always took the conservative view in debates in his history class.

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comment_1753459
9 hours ago, claptonrocks said:

Dems have no leadership.

Hundreds of factions .

 

The process of allowing for varrying view points in a primary then coming together to support the nominee in the general while pushing the nominee to allow concessions on issues important to you is FAR more healthy to a republic than kicking out anyone who may publicly disagree with the party leader

 

Ask Adam Kinsinger and Liz Cheney.

 

The #1 thing that worries me about Trump and the Project 2025 thing is having a government full of yes men instead of qualified experts that might publicly disagree with him. You and I both know damed well he doesn't accept anyone disagreeing with him. 

 

Imagine if during the pandemic he was allowed to fire Fauchi because Fauchi said using bleach isn't effective against covid.

 

That's the future if Trump gets in and puts in Schedule F

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comment_1753460
9 hours ago, T-Dub said:

 

"Bipartisan" is very loaded in this case. I'm not interested in appealing to the extreme right.  Fascism and Christian White Nationalism are ideologies to be defeated entirely.  There's no negotiating to be done there.  That sort of thing needs to be chased back under the rock it crawled out from, period.

 

 

I really don't think many on that side of the isle think this is a possibility and think it's all liberal overreacting 

comment_1753461
1 hour ago, Jamie_B said:

 

I really don't think many on that side of the isle think this is a possibility and think it's all liberal overreacting 

 

Well yeah, anything they don't like, disagree with, or don't understand - anything outside of the Holy Word of Dear Leader - is "liberal" something. Anyone not goose-stepping high enough is a liberal.

 

They'll say it's overreacting and then double down & endorse it with the same breath. These are not fundamentally honest people. Once someone starts lying to themselves, lying to everyone else becomes routine. It's addict behavior only they're addicted, remarkably, to Donald Trump of all things.

 

A delusional cult.

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comment_1753462
2 minutes ago, T-Dub said:

 

Well yeah, anything they don't like, disagree with, or don't understand - anything outside of the Holy Word of Dear Leader - is "liberal" something. Anyone not goose-stepping high enough is a liberal.

 

They'll say it's overreacting and then double down & endorse it with the same breath. These are not fundamentally honest people. Once someone starts lying to themselves, lying to everyone else becomes routine. It's addict behavior only they're addicted, remarkably, to Donald Trump of all things.

 

A delusional cult.

 

 

These are the same people who called Liz Cheney who voted with Trump on almost everything a "RINO" because she spoke out against him. So yeah.

comment_1753463
3 hours ago, Jamie_B said:

 

 

These are the same people who called Liz Cheney who voted with Trump on almost everything a "RINO" because she spoke out against him. So yeah.

 

Anyone but Dear Leader is disposable. Just ask Mike Pence, or Cory Comperatore for that matter. Has Trump even said his name?

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