sparky151 Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 Jones has been stellar thus far for the Browns with no QB sacks or even hits allowed in his 2 games. He's playing with their ones with Conklin out. If we could run the ball effectively, it would keep defenses from playing 2 deep safeties vs Chase and Higgins. And keep drives alive in short yardage situations. Last year we faced more light boxes than any other team in the NFL. And Mixon averages 3.9 ypc, well below the league average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 39 minutes ago, sparky151 said: Jones has been stellar thus far for the Browns with no QB sacks or even hits allowed in his 2 games. He's playing with their ones with Conklin out. If we could run the ball effectively, it would keep defenses from playing 2 deep safeties vs Chase and Higgins. And keep drives alive in short yardage situations. Last year we faced more light boxes than any other team in the NFL. And Mixon averages 3.9 ypc, well below the league average. The Bengals have made significant schematic changes in the way they run the ball out of the shotgun. This is an excellent article if you haven't read it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 14 minutes ago, dex said: The Bengals have made significant schematic changes in the way they run the ball out of the shotgun. This is an excellent article if you haven't read it. It's behind a paywall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: It's behind a paywall. It wasn't the other day when I first posted the tweet to the story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, dex said: It wasn't the other day when I first posted the tweet to the story. Wonder how long they leave it open until it goes behind it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griever Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 37 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: Wonder how long they leave it open until it goes behind it? I find that on a lot of sites, you are free to view a designated number of articles before you are forced to pay. Guessing the paywall is appearing for those who have exhausted their free article count 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 2 hours ago, sparky151 said: We could have had both (plus a pick next year) if we'd taken the trade down offer from the Titans. Ouch. 😬 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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|BlackJesus| Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 ^ Ravens can bring in all the scrub CBs they want. But Shiesty is still going to torch them for 400+. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 4 hours ago, sparky151 said: I was hoping we'd draft Washington and Dawand Jones and improve our running game. We could have had both (plus a pick next year) if we'd taken the trade down offer from the Titans. The finny thing is, even if they had taken the trade down offer with the Titans, they still wouldn't have taken either of those two players. I've listened to enough podcasts with various coaches and front office people as to which players they liked but weren't able to get in each round. Those two players were never mentioned even once. That is what happens if they aren't on your big board at all for whatever behind-the-scenes reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sparky151 Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 2 hours ago, dex said: The finny thing is, even if they had taken the trade down offer with the Titans, they still wouldn't have taken either of those two players. I've listened to enough podcasts with various coaches and front office people as to which players they liked but weren't able to get in each round. Those two players were never mentioned even once. That is what happens if they aren't on your big board at all for whatever behind-the-scenes reason. And those would be examples of poor draft evaluations then. It's not like Tobin has a great record of drafting O-linemen and TEs. But Jones and Washington had great tape so they weren't exactly hidden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Montana Bengal| Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 https://x.com/joecoolstan/status/1692341375180644524?s=61&t=l1l2KYDckSsag_vYeqoK-g Twitter as X sucks. Embedding seems broken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 8 hours ago, BlackJesus said: Wow ..what an elite list.. But yeah..JB and Chase.. Mahomes and Kelce next. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 11 hours ago, Griever said: If Darby starts for The Rats JB will pick on his deficiencies all day long. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 Duke Tobin and Zach are locked in.. Their conversations must run deep into what Zach wants in a player and Duke going out and finding them.. All GM's have hit and misses. Tobin and his crew have taken them to SB level]... And the Blackburn women are smart enough to let it roll.. . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Montana Bengal said: ^ Andrews should be suspended by the league for that. Let's say, the first 2 games. 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 13 hours ago, sparky151 said: And those would be examples of poor draft evaluations then. It's not like Tobin has a great record of drafting O-linemen and TEs. But Jones and Washington had great tape so they weren't exactly hidden. Absolutely no question that those two guys have great game tape. It's why they were often both mocked in the first round by media analysts who watch a lot of tape. But the NFL teams do interviews, background checks, read medical reports, etc. If a prospect with a great tape doesn't go where his ability suggests he should be drafted, then it is something else causes him to fall down big boards or even get removed altogether. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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claptonrocks Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 6 hours ago, dex said: Absolutely no question that those two guys have great game tape. It's why they were often both mocked in the first round by media analysts who watch a lot of tape. But the NFL teams do interviews, background checks, read medical reports, etc. If a prospect with a great tape doesn't go where his ability suggests he should be drafted, then it is something else causes him to fall down big boards or even get removed altogether. Thats where draftniks lose out on picking players. Med reports and the rest you mentioned plays a huge factor in who goes where and when. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 ^ The Ravens always have to sign several free agents in late August to replace the players they get injured trying to win their preseason games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 It also seems like Baltimore is becoming the place where former all-pros who are now past their prime go to get their last pay check (Calais, Odell, Clowney) Since the Ravens care about winning the "off-season" perception game, more than actually winning a playoff game (which they know they can't do now with Shiesty as King of the North.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 Kermit has been watching Shiesty's game tape ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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