May 30, 20232 yr comment_1706858 17 minutes ago, sparky151 said: Mixon got benched for the 2nd half of the AFCCG because he can't pass protect. It would have been nice to have Perine back but we need one of Williams, Evans, or Brown to step up in pass blocking since Mixon would get Burrow killed on 3rd down throws. Yeah IDK how a guy that can't/won't block even has a starting job in the NFL. Crazy.
May 30, 20232 yr comment_1706864 2 hours ago, Jamie_B said: Alot of that hindges on the Oline being able to sustain blocks long enough to not get either Joe killed. That was the problem last year and why we transitioned to more shotgun than we had ran in the past. Before the start of training camp last year, I feel like the plan was always to run most of the plays out of shotgun. What changed was Burrow's very serious appendix surgery where he lost something like 20 pounds. So they were forced to keep Burrow behind center early on in order to protect him until he was fully healthy, just as they had to do the previous year when he was recovering from very serious knee surgery. If Burrow is finally fully healthy for an opening day, I expect the Bengals to continue with their heavy downhill gap/shotgun scheme that they went on a big tear with in November and December. Still remember that great pre-draft podcast where Brian Callahan emphasized that they are a passing team first and foremost.
May 30, 20232 yr comment_1706865 55 minutes ago, dex said: Before the start of training camp last year, I feel like the plan was always to run most of the plays out of shotgun. What changed was Burrow's very serious appendix surgery where he lost something like 20 pounds. So they were forced to keep Burrow behind center early on in order to protect him until he was fully healthy, just as they had to do the previous year when he was recovering from very serious knee surgery. If Burrow is finally fully healthy for an opening day, I expect the Bengals to continue with their heavy downhill gap/shotgun scheme that they went on a big tear with in November and December. Still remember that great pre-draft podcast where Brian Callahan emphasized that they are a passing team first and foremost. Don't mind at all that they're a passing team first and foremost. I sometimes do mind when they're also a passing team 2nd and inches.
May 30, 20232 yr comment_1706866 31 minutes ago, T-Dub said: Don't mind at all that they're a passing team first and foremost. I sometimes do mind when they're also a passing team 2nd and inches. A lot of teams like to throw on 2nd and inches. Consider it almost like a free play.
May 30, 20232 yr Author comment_1706867 That was a nice shot of that Burrow drill in the Hoard tweets. Man he's moving well.
May 30, 20232 yr comment_1706869 2 hours ago, dex said: Before the start of training camp last year, I feel like the plan was always to run most of the plays out of shotgun. What changed was Burrow's very serious appendix surgery where he lost something like 20 pounds. So they were forced to keep Burrow behind center early on in order to protect him until he was fully healthy, just as they had to do the previous year when he was recovering from very serious knee surgery. If Burrow is finally fully healthy for an opening day, I expect the Bengals to continue with their heavy downhill gap/shotgun scheme that they went on a big tear with in November and December. Still remember that great pre-draft podcast where Brian Callahan emphasized that they are a passing team first and foremost. There was an article floating around that showed when they change early in the season and how Burrow and the O adapted because they were not having the same success they had the previous year with the big plays to Tee and Jamar, because teams played a lot more cover 2. It happened more early in the season than before it.
May 30, 20232 yr comment_1706870 3 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: There was an article floating around that showed when they change early in the season and how Burrow and the O adapted because they were not having the same success they had the previous year with the big plays to Tee and Jamar, because teams played a lot more cover 2. It happened more early in the season than before it. The ton of cover 2/shell defenses were happening late in Chase's rookie season after defenses made the adjustments. During last year's offseason Burrow was talking about how he knew shell defenses were pretty much all the Bengals were going to see. I don't think the early under-the-center stuff was anything other than protecting Burrow until he was fully recovered. It was pretty obvious that he wasn't healthy in those first several games. You can't that much weight that quickly and regain your strength in a big hurry. That ruptured appendix may have kept the Bengals from hosting the AFCCG.
May 31, 20232 yr comment_1706871 25 minutes ago, dex said: The ton of cover 2/shell defenses were happening late in Chase's rookie season after defenses made the adjustments. During last year's offseason Burrow was talking about how he knew shell defenses were pretty much all the Bengals were going to see. I don't think the early under-the-center stuff was anything other than protecting Burrow until he was fully recovered. It was pretty obvious that he wasn't healthy in those first several games. You can't that much weight that quickly and regain your strength in a big hurry. That ruptured appendix may have kept the Bengals from hosting the AFCCG. The changes happened in week 5.
May 31, 20232 yr comment_1706873 1 hour ago, Jamie_B said: The changes happened in week 5. I'm definitely not disputing WHEN it happened, only WHY it happened. They flipped the switch when Burrow got his strength back, I don't think they are flipping it back again. Glad that Burrow is practicing his under-center play action, but for the most part the Bengals will remain in shotgun formations imo. The only way that changes if they feel a need to have to protect a less than 100 percent Burrow.
May 31, 20232 yr comment_1706874 1 minute ago, dex said: I'm definitely not disputing WHEN it happened, only WHY it happened. They flipped the switch when Burrow got his strength back, I don't think they are flipping it back again. Glad that Burrow is practicing his under-center play action, but for the most part the Bengals will remain in shotgun formations imo. The only way that changes if they feel a need to have to protect a less than 100 percent Burrow. I actually think we are going to see more of a mix between last season's short passing game out of shotgun and the previous season getting the big plays.
May 31, 20232 yr comment_1706875 It was too predictable before they started running it more frequently from the shotgun. Basically, most of the time they lined up under center on early downs they ran it and they also rarely ran it from the shotgun. Teams figured out our tendencies and we needed to adjust. Play action opportunities are usually only effective if you have success running to begin with. I’m fine being a pass first team because our QB and receivers are our best players. Eventually, you do need to have some balance if teams keep playing deep and giving light boxes. Otherwise you aren’t going to get many chances to attack deep and intermediate areas.
May 31, 20232 yr comment_1706877 9 hours ago, Inigo Montoya said: It was too predictable before they started running it more frequently from the shotgun. Basically, most of the time they lined up under center on early downs they ran it and they also rarely ran it from the shotgun. Teams figured out our tendencies and we needed to adjust. Play action opportunities are usually only effective if you have success running to begin with. I’m fine being a pass first team because our QB and receivers are our best players. Eventually, you do need to have some balance if teams keep playing deep and giving light boxes. Otherwise you aren’t going to get many chances to attack deep and intermediate areas. This is the key. You have to be able to take advantage of light boxes. Getting stuffed in the running game vs. light boxes puts the team at a major disadvantage. If we can get more 5+ yard gains vs light boxes I don't see how anyone stops this offense.
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May 31, 20232 yr comment_1706879 3 hours ago, WRAPradio said: This is the key. You have to be able to take advantage of light boxes. Getting stuffed in the running game vs. light boxes puts the team at a major disadvantage. If we can get more 5+ yard gains vs light boxes I don't see how anyone stops this offense. By getting to the QB. Same way they've stopped it without a running game. Granted that would make it a lot harder & a back that can block worth a damn would be a big help. Still comes down to pass pro.
May 31, 20232 yr comment_1706880 https://www.cincyjungle.com/2023/5/30/23743055/zac-taylor-joe-mixon-bengals-news All talk of cutting Joe Mixon can now officially die
June 1, 20232 yr comment_1706899 23 hours ago, Jamie_B said: https://www.cincyjungle.com/2023/5/30/23743055/zac-taylor-joe-mixon-bengals-news All talk of cutting Joe Mixon can now officially die Sounds like he's got a family member at gunpoint. "I REALLY LIKE JOE MIXON!" Someone tell Zac to blink twice if he's in danger.
June 1, 20232 yr comment_1706901 48 minutes ago, T-Dub said: Sounds like he's got a family member at gunpoint. "I REALLY LIKE JOE MIXON!" Someone tell Zac to blink twice if he's in danger.
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