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8 hours ago, Homer_Rice said:

???? Did not the USA invade Iraq? What's the diff insofar as this goes? My point was more precise: a lot the same folks that gave us Iraq gave us Ukraine. I'll put something together today or tonight which ties all this stuff up.

 

Very similar in that the motivation could be seen as control of oil reserves.  Same for the phony excuses for the invasions.  I don't think we had any intention of invading neighboring countries to reunify a former empire, however.  I do believe Putin would like to recreate the USSR.

 

In other words the 2003 invasion of Iraq was also wrong, and we paid for that mistake.  Not near as much as Ukraine is costing Russia, but a mistake for certain.

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In the meantime, the issue that no one is discussing:

 

How effective would Trump be if he is re-elected President if he can't even travel to some of the countries of our most loyal allies?

 

https://people.com/donald-trump-barred-entering-37-countries-convicted-felon-8657038

 

Right now, he can't travel to the UK, China, or Canada, amongst others, unless he gets special permission. 

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9 hours ago, Shebengal said:

In the meantime, the issue that no one is discussing:

 

How effective would Trump be if he is re-elected President if he can't even travel to some of the countries of our most loyal allies?

 

https://people.com/donald-trump-barred-entering-37-countries-convicted-felon-8657038

 

Right now, he can't travel to the UK, China, or Canada, amongst others, unless he gets special permission. 

 

 

If he's President they obviously would give him that permission as it's in their interest to have the President there.

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5 hours ago, Jamie_B said:

 

 

If he's President they obviously would give him that permission as it's in their interest to have the President there.

For the better of our country which you can't seem  wrap your mind around.

 

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16 hours ago, Jamie_B said:

 

 

If he's President they obviously would give him that permission as it's in their interest to have the President there.

I know they probably would, but it’s a delicious irony that he’s been railing about all the criminals entering through our borders, and now he’s going to be a criminal entering their countries. 

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49 minutes ago, Shebengal said:

I know they probably would, but it’s a delicious irony that he’s been railing about all the criminals entering through our borders, and now he’s going to be a criminal entering their countries. 

 

Every accusation is a confession 

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On 6/19/2024 at 12:49 PM, Shebengal said:

I know they probably would, but it’s a delicious irony that he’s been railing about all the criminals entering through our borders, and now he’s going to be a criminal entering their countries. 

A criminal in the eyes of liberals .

The whole trial was a mockery in true justice.

Judge and prosecutor were determined to stop him from being elected again regardless of laws.

Total farce.

But if you see it differently so be it.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, claptonrocks said:

A criminal in the eyes of liberals .

 

 

 

A criminal in the eyes of a jury. Weird how y'all are all law & order, back the blue, "just obey the law" & all that bullshit until it doesn't go your way.

 

Make up your mind.

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3 minutes ago, T-Dub said:

 

A criminal in the eyes of a jury. Weird how y'all are all law & order, back the blue, "just obey the law" & all that bullshit until it doesn't go your way.

 

Make up your mind.

A jury ..hand picked by liberals.

 

You want to dismantle America and make it into a socialistic country like others around the world.

How's that working in those countries?

Their people hate it.

I bet you think N Korea is a haven too.

Idiot.

 

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9 minutes ago, claptonrocks said:

A jury ..hand picked by liberals.

 

You want to dismantle America and make it into a socialistic country like others around the world.

How's that working in those countries?

Their people hate it.

I bet you think N Korea is a haven too.

Idiot.

 

 

 

You realize of course one of the Jury members said they got their news from Twitter and Truth Social. That hardly sounds like a liberal.

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30 minutes ago, claptonrocks said:

Name socialistic countries around the world.

I'll give you a minute to look it up

dumbass.

 

The United States? Except we're only socialists when the likes of Boeing, Lehman Brothers, or General Motors are threatened with bankruptcy. Free school lunches? Get fucked, commie. Fucks sake man what do you think "Social Security" is if not socialism? It's right there in the damned name.

 

Now you explain the difference between socialism and communism.

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1 minute ago, T-Dub said:

 

The United States? Except we're only socialists when the likes of Boeing, Lehman Brothers, or General Motors are threatened with bankruptcy. Free school lunches? Get fucked, commie. Fucks sake man what do you think "Social Security" is if not socialism? It's right there in the damned name.

 

Now you explain the difference between socialism and communism.

The difference is name only.

How about Soviet socialists ?

China is socialist ( communist )

You seem to be on board with that type of government.

Sickening to me but so are you 

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31 minutes ago, Jamie_B said:

 

 

You realize of course one of the Jury members said they got their news from Twitter and Truth Social. That hardly sounds like a liberal.

One?...lol

Save it for someone that believes this trial wasn't planned and executed in an unlawful manner.

 

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8 minutes ago, claptonrocks said:

It was a farce..admit it.

Would you have been ok with it if it had been you?

Don't think so.

 

 

Ah yes the "if it happened to me it can happen to you" nonsense.

 

If I ever pay off a porn start to hide the fact I cheated on my pregnant wife, so that it doesnt get out and maybe hurt my election chances while I am running for President..... yes I would be ok if that happened to me

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1 minute ago, claptonrocks said:

 

 

 

Clinton didn't pay off Lewinski in order to hide it because he was worried about it hurting his election chances.

 

I could care less about the moral implications, this is about the legals ones. 

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1 hour ago, claptonrocks said:

The difference is name only.

How about Soviet socialists ?

China is socialist ( communist )

You seem to be on board with that type of government.

Sickening to me but so are you 

 

So you don't know the difference.

 

Shocking.

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1 hour ago, claptonrocks said:

I'm so tired of trading jabs with you.

We differ..

 

Funny thing is aside from the Trump worship & associated talking points I suspect there's more common ground than you think. Just need to chill with calling people libs, socialists, or commies when it's pretty obvious you're only repeating scare words without much substance behind them. 

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On 6/26/2024 at 2:31 PM, Jamie_B said:

 

 

Clinton didn't pay off Lewinski in order to hide it because he was worried about it hurting his election chances.

 

I could care less about the moral implications, this is about the legals ones. 

No but he did payoff Paula Jones to the cost of 850,000.00 dollars while in office.

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