AmishBengalFan Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 For those who don't have Sunday Ticket... 2006 Week 17 (Dec 31) National Doubleheader = BOTH NETWORKS The CBS Early Game map - all games at 1pm ET: [img]http://www.gribblenation.net/nflmaps/17-CBS-E.gif[/img] The CBS Late Game map - all games at 4:15pm ET: [img]http://www.gribblenation.net/nflmaps/17-CBS-L.gif[/img] The FOX Early Game map - all games at 1pm ET: [img]http://www.gribblenation.net/nflmaps/17-FOX-E.gif[/img] The FOX Late Game map - all games at 4:15pm ET: [img]http://www.gribblenation.net/nflmaps/17-FOX-L.gif[/img] [b]FAQ (from gribblenation.com)[/b] [b]What do the white areas mean?[/b] Welcome to the world of blackout rules. The short answer is: no game at all. This can be due to one of two rules: a) no games can air at the same time as a local team's home game on another network, or b ) if a game is blacked out because it doesn't sell out, the network with the doubleheader can only show one game. Don’t shoot the messenger, I think the rules are stupid too. [b]So what exactly are the blackout rules?[/b] The short answer: If a game doesn't sell out within 72 hours of kickoff, there is no local television broadcast. "Local" in this case is defined as anywhere within 75 miles from the stadium. If a station from outside that 75-mile zone has any part of its coverage area crossing over, it gets blacked out too. This is why virtually all of Arizona, for instance, gets blacked out of Cardinals games. [b]Who decides what games get shown in my area?[/b] The networks, with some guidance from the NFL. The league sets "primary markets" and "secondary markets" for most teams, and those markets are required to show all road games involving the "local" team. Primary markets are required to air home games too, unless they don't sell out. The "primary market" is the market in which the team is physically located (i.e. Boston for the Patriots). The "secondary markets" are adjoining markets assigned at the discretion of the league (again using the Patriots example, Providence and Portland ME). Secondary markets are not required to air home games, and if there's another team nearby, they don't. Harrisburg PA is a good example. Because Baltimore is the closest team, the NFL has designated it a Ravens secondary market. However, the stations there have noticed there are more stealers fans. So the CBS affiliate there, despite having to air Ravens *road* games in case of a stealers conflict (and enduring the wrath of the local fans every time it happens), they do air the stealers whenever the Ravens play at *home*. Outside of these primary and secondary markets, and even in them if the local team isn't playing, the network is the sole arbiter of what game gets shown where, but usually after taking input from the local affiliates. Affiliates can request a particular game be shown to their market, and the network will (usually) agree unless it runs against the secondary market rules. The CBS affiliate in Orlando in 2005, after several desperate attempts, couldn't show a Dolphins-Buccaneers game because, for some reason, the NFL said Orlando is a Jaguars market. Not all markets are designated by one team or another as a secondary market, usually only the ones closest to the stadium (i.e. the ones that would be blacked out if not a sellout). Other markets can air one team’s games more often than not, but that rule isn’t set in stone. Stations in the 32 team markets are not allowed to air a game if the other network has a local team's home game at the same time. Instead, they have to air one in the other timeslot. The rule does not specifically apply if the local team is on the road, but that's on the doubleheader network, the singleheader network usually airs a game in the opposite timeslot. This is usually how those 49ers-Texans duds end up on the air in Cleveland. [b]How come these tiny specks in Nebraska are getting a different game?[/b] One of two reasons: Sometimes a popular player is from a certain area, so the local station there likes to show as many games of his team as possible. This is especially true in college towns. The other reason has to do with the Fox network. Since it's a newer, smaller network, it doesn't have as many affiliates as CBS, ABC or NBC. So there is a national satellite feed called FoxNet that is distributed to cable companies in the smallest markets and other remote areas, which usually carries Fox's national game. I've tried to show as many areas that carry FoxNet as I can on the maps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumble In the Jungle Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 [b]Amish, i love your updates [/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WhoDeyForever Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 Saturday: 8 ET--Ohio State @ Texas Sunday: 11:30 ET-- Bengals Weekly W/ Marvin Lewis Sunday:12 ET--NFL Today Sunday:1 ET--Bengals @ Chiefs Shit man is the weekend here yet?? IM GEEKED!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CincyInDC Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 [quote name='AmishBengalFan' post='332593' date='Sep 6 2006, 09:44 PM']FAQ (from gribblenation.com) [b]What do the white areas mean?[/b] Welcome to the world of blackout rules. The short answer is: no game at all. This can be due to one of two rules: a) no games can air at the same time as a local team's home game on another network, or b ) if a game is blacked out because it doesn't sell out, the network with the doubleheader can only show one game. Don’t shoot the messenger, I think the rules are stupid too. [b]So what exactly are the blackout rules?[/b] The short answer: If a game doesn't sell out within 72 hours of kickoff, there is no local television broadcast. "Local" in this case is defined as anywhere within 75 miles from the stadium. If a station from outside that 75-mile zone has any part of its coverage area crossing over, it gets blacked out too. This is why virtually all of Arizona, for instance, gets blacked out of Cardinals games. [b]Who decides what games get shown in my area?[/b] The networks, with some guidance from the NFL. The league sets "primary markets" and "secondary markets" for most teams, and those markets are required to show all road games involving the "local" team. Primary markets are required to air home games too, unless they don't sell out. The "primary market" is the market in which the team is physically located (i.e. Boston for the Patriots). The "secondary markets" are adjoining markets assigned at the discretion of the league (again using the Patriots example, Providence and Portland ME). Secondary markets are not required to air home games, and if there's another team nearby, they don't. Harrisburg PA is a good example. Because Baltimore is the closest team, the NFL has designated it a Ravens secondary market. However, the stations there have noticed there are more stealers fans. So the CBS affiliate there, despite having to air Ravens *road* games in case of a stealers conflict (and enduring the wrath of the local fans every time it happens), they do air the stealers whenever the Ravens play at *home*. Outside of these primary and secondary markets, and even in them if the local team isn't playing, the network is the sole arbiter of what game gets shown where, but usually after taking input from the local affiliates. Affiliates can request a particular game be shown to their market, and the network will (usually) agree unless it runs against the secondary market rules. The CBS affiliate in Orlando in 2005, after several desperate attempts, couldn't show a Dolphins-Buccaneers game because, for some reason, the NFL said Orlando is a Jaguars market. Not all markets are designated by one team or another as a secondary market, usually only the ones closest to the stadium (i.e. the ones that would be blacked out if not a sellout). Other markets can air one team’s games more often than not, but that rule isn’t set in stone. Stations in the 32 team markets are not allowed to air a game if the other network has a local team's home game at the same time. Instead, they have to air one in the other timeslot. The rule does not specifically apply if the local team is on the road, but that's on the doubleheader network, the singleheader network usually airs a game in the opposite timeslot. This is usually how those 49ers-Texans duds end up on the air in Cleveland. [b]How come these tiny specks in Nebraska are getting a different game?[/b] One of two reasons: Sometimes a popular player is from a certain area, so the local station there likes to show as many games of his team as possible. This is especially true in college towns. The other reason has to do with the Fox network. Since it's a newer, smaller network, it doesn't have as many affiliates as CBS, ABC or NBC. So there is a national satellite feed called FoxNet that is distributed to cable companies in the smallest markets and other remote areas, which usually carries Fox's national game. I've tried to show as many areas that carry FoxNet as I can on the maps.[/quote] Awesome work, AB. Now I understand why the Lexington affiliate got away with playing browns games when couch was their QB (Louisville showed the colts). Hindsight being what it is, I should have been making the trip from Frankfort to PBS to attend the games. I'll chalk it up to being poor at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodey319 Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 i guess southern cal loves to watch former USC stars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nati Ice Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 [b]WEEK 1 FRIDAY UPDATES CBS:[/b] Amarillo, TX (KFDA): CIN/KC -> DEN/STL wtf? Austin, TX (KEYE): CIN/KC -> NYJ/TN wtf? [u]Cedar Rapids, IA (KGAN): DEN/STL -> CIN/KC Cleveland, OH (WOIO): BUF/NE -> CIN/KC[/u] Peoria, IL (WMBD): CIN/KC -> DEN/STL [u]pissburgh, PA (KDKA): BUF/NE -> CIN/KC[/u] Scranton, PA (WYOU): BUF/NE -> NYJ/TN [u]Wheeling, WV (WTRF): BUF/NE -> CIN/KC Youngstown, OH (WKBN): BUF/NE -> CIN/KC[/u] [b]FOX:[/b] Denver, CO (KDVR): SEA/DET -> ATL/CAR Kansas City, MO (WDAF): CHI/GB -> DAL/JAX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#40 Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 Motherfucker, I was LITERALLY centimetres from getting the game. [img]http://www.gribblenation.net/nflmaps/04-CBS-E.gif[/img] [img]http://www.gribblenation.net/nflmaps/04-CBS-L.gif[/img] [img]http://www.gribblenation.net/nflmaps/04-FOX.gif[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanvilleBengal Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 WHy does VA have to be a fucking RedSkin state??? Looks like I will be checking out that Viidoo.com site to get my Bengals fix... :dry: Fucking REDSKINS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#40 Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 [quote name='DanvilleBengal' post='351719' date='Sep 26 2006, 09:00 PM']WHy does VA have to be a fucking RedSkin state??? Looks like I will be checking out that Viidoo.com site to get my Bengals fix... :dry: Fucking REDSKINS. [/quote] The sad thing is Viidoo isn't streaming CIN VS NE, instead it's Fox 1/10/06 San Francisco at Kansas City - 10 am US PT, 1 pm US ET or 6 pm UK time CBS 1/10/06 San Diego at Baltimore - 10 am US PT, 1 pm US ET or 6 pm UK time. Cleveland at Oakland - 1.15 pm US PT, 4.15 pm US ET or 9.15 pm UK time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emc334 Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 Actually the Viidoo player only gets network channels based out of San Francisco, I believe. So instead of the Bengals, you'll get the Browns and Raiders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Montana Bengal| Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 Holy crap, I get to see them two weeks in a row on the tube?!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BklynBngl Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 I've lurked on the board for awhile (no better way to spend the workday) but was so perplexed by that split map of Alaska that I had to join to ask whether anyone had any idea what that's all about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophie Salee Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 [quote name='BklynBngl' post='351741' date='Sep 26 2006, 09:39 PM']I've lurked on the board for awhile (no better way to spend the workday) but was so perplexed by that split map of Alaska that I had to join to ask whether anyone had any idea what that's all about.[/quote] I agree what is with the splitting of Alaska? Northern Alaska watches the Vikings and Bills and southern Alaska watches Saints and Panthers?? Is there an alaskan playing on one of those teams? Welcome, glad you joined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Harley| Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 [quote name='Montana Bengal' post='351724' date='Sep 26 2006, 09:12 PM']Holy crap, I get to see them two weeks in a row on the tube?!![/quote] My thoughts exactly. My, how times have changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Dan_Bengals_FL- Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 Sweet, I get the game at home. No sportsbar this week. Party at my house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriZENry Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 So why does SoCal [i]still[/i] get Raiders & Rams games after all they're bullshit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontPushMe Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 JAGUARS? Come the fuck on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmishBengalFan Posted September 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 40: Thanks for posting these maps for me. I didn't see that you had jumped the gun (=stolen my thunder) when I started my standard weekly thread on this topic. Good for you. I'll append my weekly FAQ to this thread and address the other one later on Wednesday. Go, maybe it [i]is[/i] time to make this topic a sticky. I'm willing to keep it updated weekly, and we won't have to worry about having 17 threads (one per week), plus whatever redundant ones that happen to pop up on their own. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Elflocko| Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 Sweet! I get to see them on NTV! Winning kicks ass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophie Salee Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 [b][size=3]Hey Mods, Can we pin this somewhere? please Thanks[/size][/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#40 Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 [quote name='AmishBengalFan' post='351917' date='Sep 26 2006, 11:56 PM']40: Thanks for posting these maps for me. I didn't see that you had jumped the gun (=stolen my thunder) when I started my standard weekly thread on this topic. Good for you. I'll append my weekly FAQ to this thread and address the other one later on Wednesday.[/quote] Uh, my bad?! I was just excited (pissed) that I was literally 2 centimeters from getting the game. If you remember back to Week 1, I was the first one to have the maps posted, so you stole my thunder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naptown Bengal Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 [center][img]http://www.gribblenation.net/nflmaps/04-CBS-L.gif[/img] What is up with that speck of green in Kansas? or that speck of blue in Arkansas/Oklahoma? [/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmishBengalFan Posted September 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 [quote name='Naptown Bengal' post='352169' date='Sep 27 2006, 11:59 AM']What is up with that speck of green in Kansas? or that speck of blue in Arkansas/Oklahoma? [/quote]That looks like Kansas State and the Univ of Arkansas... I'm betting there's a local boy from Manhattan or Fayetteville playing in two games. Scroll up to the FAQ, it's discussed there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naptown Bengal Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 [quote name='AmishBengalFan' post='352295' date='Sep 27 2006, 01:59 PM']That looks like Kansas State and the Univ of Arkansas... I'm betting there's a local boy from Manhattan or Fayetteville playing in two games. Scroll up to the FAQ, it's discussed there.[/quote] yeah, I saw that part I was just wondering who from that area would be playing in those games. I think Matt Jones could be the reason for that small part of Arkansas getting the JAX @ WSH game, but I couldn't find anyone meaningful in the CLE @ OAK game from Kansas or K-State...weird... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Actium Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 Sweet, getting the game at home this time around (can save some funds by not going to the sports bar) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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