NFLPA says it will pay Ochocinco's fine if he wears No. 15

[|Bunghole|]

[quote name='kennethmw' date='19 December 2009 - 10:43 PM' timestamp='1261277029' post='844902']
Bung, you are one hundred percent right, and to the rest of the board, I apologize. I have been reading posts all day, here and elsewhere, and I probably had become so pissed about the number of people that have this "he's not worth your sympathy, look at what he has done" mentality, that I just took it out on SF2. I dislike the philosophy that would believe that anyone is not worthy of respect in death, because no matter how bad you are, someone loves you, even if it's only god. I also have a level of compassion for Chris, despite his worts, because he was a member of my "family". I invited him into my home every time I watched him on TV, and but for the grace of God, I could have been walking in his shoes, or trying to deal with a child walking in his shoes.
SF2, I would also apologize to you. No matter what I said, I'm quite aware that you would be missed if the lord decided it was your time as well. In fact, I would miss you if I knew that you had passed, because like you or not like you, you are a part of my "Go-Bengals Family". I do appreciate your service to our country, even if I don't always appreciate your views. I only hope that you would realize, that most of us are not empathetic with chris because we liked everything he did, but moreso because he was trying to change his ways for him and his kids, and it appears that although moving towards this ideal, he had not reached his final metamorphisis. We all have worts, his because of his talent, were just more visible, but they don't take away from his worthiness to be memorialized in death.
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Well, that's a great post and I would hope that people in general would give more benefit of the doubt to other people. The world would be a better place.

[KoKaine7777]

[quote name='Bunghole' date='19 December 2009 - 10:14 PM' timestamp='1261275256' post='844898']
Why does race appear in every single one of your posts? Its either overt or subliminal. I'm sick of it. Its stupid.

You are so off base with regards to Tillman, too.
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[b]Must be your guilty conscious seeing race everywhere. Anyway I have only spoken the truth, whether you like it or not. I standby everything I say. Truth is the truth![/b]

[MULLY]

[quote name='Jamie_B' date='20 December 2009 - 12:02 PM' timestamp='1261274567' post='844891']
No, it just means too many of us (myself at the time) were too naive to understand what was going on. Sadly some signed up in that nativity. They didnt deserve to die for that.
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[img]http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/3838/nativityscene.jpg[/img]

[|Tigers Johnson|]

[quote name='KoKaine7777' date='19 December 2009 - 11:39 PM' timestamp='1261280343' post='844911']
[b]Must be your guilty conscious seeing race everywhere. Anyway I have only spoken the truth, whether you like it or not. I standby everything I say. Truth is the truth![/b]
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Do you let race control every view in your life or do you ever just think for yourself as an individual?

[KoKaine7777]

[quote name='Tigers Johnson' date='19 December 2009 - 11:55 PM' timestamp='1261281353' post='844915']
Do you let race control every view in your life or do you ever just think for yourself as an individual?
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[b]Obviously you do if you think that post has anything to do with race. You are the second person to flip your race card. When all else fails, scream "race card"!

It's like you subscribe to Fox News talking points![/b]

[|Tigers Johnson|]

[quote name='KoKaine7777' date='20 December 2009 - 01:19 AM' timestamp='1261286377' post='844926']
[b]Obviously you do if you think that post has anything to do with race. You are the second person to flip your race card. When all else fails, scream "race card"!

It's like you subscribe to Fox News talking points![/b]
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No...

I calls like I sees em.

[|Bunghole|]

[quote name='KoKaine7777' date='19 December 2009 - 04:53 PM' timestamp='1261256005' post='844797']
[b]How have you changed? 300 years hasn't proven much to me![/b]
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Kokaine, you posted this in reply to SF2. Tell me this doesn't have race laced through it. You wrote it. If I'm misunderstanding you, then please explain. The "300 years" comment is clearly a race reference, and I'm aware that you are African American, so...what gives?

[oldschooler]

[quote name='SF2' date='19 December 2009 - 02:35 PM' timestamp='1261251310' post='844768']
There is no reason to celebrate Chris Henry.
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Well, the Bengals ownership, Front Office, coaches, players, staff, The NFL, The NFLPA,
and the majority of Bengals fans think there are plently of reasons to celebrate Chris Henry.
That's why he has been celebrated and will continue to be celebrated for the rest of this season.

All of those people > you.

Can we just ban SF2 and Kokaine? Both bring nothing but hate to this place.

Hell, SF2's whole purpose of first coming here was to stir shit up with the "Sheeople".
And it appears that is still his whole purpose of being here.

Seriously, I would miss neither of them and what they bring to this place.

[oldschooler]

[b][size="5"]Chad gets some help; Probably won't wear No. 15[/size][/b]
GEOFF HOBSON

Posted Dec 19, 2009

Updated: 9:30 p.m.

LA JOLLA, Calif. - [url="http://www.bengals.com/team/roster/chad-ochocinco/09ddc7d1-e507-4a75-ab2b-f6f17723cbf8/"][color="#f04e23"]Chad Ochocinco[img]http://www.bengals.com/assets/nflimg/icon-article-link.gif[/img][/color][/url]'s call-for-breakfast tweet woke Samantha Goldasich at 5 a.m. Saturday morning and since she and Daryl Opperman were already in the Bengals hotel, they went downstairs.

In this outer region of Bengaldom, they soon found themselves in another Ocho adventure that turned into a kind of memorial service for Chris Henry at a Denny's.

"I couldn't sleep thinking about Chris. I've got to keep my mind busy. I've been bothering people ever since we got on the plane," The Ocho said via cell phone before Saturday's walkthrough. "I've got to be around people."

He didn't have to worry about that. In what has now become routine on a Bengals road trip, fans from all over streamed to the Ocho's tweet until about 40 gathered in a 5:30 a.m. caravan.

There was Goldasich and Opperman, two USC fans who became Bengals fans the minute [url="http://www.bengals.com/team/roster/carson-palmer/b2e2fb04-af84-4af9-9491-5c1dd3354623/"][color="#f04e23"]Carson Palmer[img]http://www.bengals.com/assets/nflimg/icon-article-link.gif[/img][/color][/url] signed on Mike Brown's line. There was Chuck and Diana Wall from Coos Bay, Ore., Ocho fans from his Oregon State days. There was Jay Ray, who grew up New Vienna, Ohio, spent his summers at the Bengals training camp in Wilmington, Ohio, and is now out here working as a software engineer.

"There he was, sitting in the passenger seat in my truck at 5:30 in the morning," Ray said. "Sports needs more guys like that."


There were a lot of laughs at breakfast. Goldasich told Ochocinco that [url="http://www.bengals.com/team/roster/andre-caldwell/60736524-1999-49db-b9d2-bb925291219b/"][color="#f04e23"]Andre Caldwell[img]http://www.bengals.com/assets/nflimg/icon-article-link.gif[/img][/color][/url] looked just like Arsenio Hall. The Ocho woke up Titans running back Chris Johnson with a phone call. He told them what he actually wanted to do when he gave the dollar bill to the ref was getting underneath the hood with him to look at the challenge.

But a lot of time was spent talking about Henry.


"He played Denzel Washington's voicemail about Chris," Opperman said. Ray heard him tell Ochocinco to hang in there, that he was praying for everybody and "I'm pretty sure he told him to be a leader."

"He had a video of him playing Madden with Chris," Goldasich said. "And he said he calls Chris's phone just to hear his voice on the message."

The Ocho admits he's having a tough time dealing, but he says he'll be ready for Sunday and the Chargers. Henry's No. 15 jersey is going to be on the sidelines, but he still doesn't think he'll wear it. He doesn't mind the NFL fine that would be waiting if he does wear it "but I don't want to be a distraction," he said.

Contacted later Saturday, The Ocho said that even though the NFL Players Association is going to cover the fine, he still doesn't want it to be a problem with head coach Marvin Lewis: "I'm going to work through Marvin on that," he said.

As of Saturday night, it looked like No. 85 would stay in No. 85.

"I think he's going to play really well," Opperman said. "I think he's going to play hard and well for his friend."

With a little help from his new friends, he just may.







[url="http://www.bengals.com/news/article-1/Chad-gets-some-help-Probably-wont-wear-No-15/cbbaadaf-698a-44eb-9c3f-297b161cbd1e"]http://www.bengals.com/news/article-1/Chad-gets-some-help-Probably-wont-wear-No-15/cbbaadaf-698a-44eb-9c3f-297b161cbd1e[/url]

[fredtoast]

[quote name='KoKaine7777' date='19 December 2009 - 11:39 PM' timestamp='1261280343' post='844911'] Anyway I have only spoken the truth, whether you like it or not. I standby everything I say. Truth is the truth![/b]
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Tillman signing with the military was a publicity stunt?

You call that a "fact"?

Listen, if you are going to devote your life to being nothing more than a shit stirrer on a message board you are going to have to step up your game. Cause right now you are pretty weak at it. Calling your silly opinion fact doesn't really do much to carry an argument among adults.

[fredtoast]

[quote name='SF2' date='19 December 2009 - 04:47 PM' timestamp='1261255647' post='844796']
I led 128 men into combat in 1991 and everyone of them would have given their left nut to have Chris Henry's God given talent. I have seen my friends die in training and combat and have cried at their funerals with their wives and children. I will not die forgotten, I will die being remembered as someone who could actually stand back in any situation and see it for what it was. I surround myself with people I respect and admire, not people who call themselves "gangstas" on their Myspace page.


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I think this is the same bullshit Sgt. Barnes was spewing before "friendly" fire took his life.

So get off your high horse. The military is full of "gangstas".

[Jamie_B]

[quote name='fredtoast' date='20 December 2009 - 10:29 AM' timestamp='1261319349' post='844959']
I think this is the same bullshit Sgt. Barnes was spewing before "friendly" fire took his life.

So get off your high horse. [color="#FF0000"]The military is full of "gangstas".[/color]
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Sadly its the only way some of them are able to turn their life around.

[AmishBengalFan]

Well, if nothing else, this thread has shown me which forum members I need to add to my ignore list. See, something good DID come out of the belly-aching and pot-stirring.

[oldschooler]

[b][size="5"]Ochocinco won't wear 15[/size][/b]
Posted by Michael David Smith on December 20, 2009 9:25 AM ET


On Saturday Bengals wide receiver Chad Ochocinco said [url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/19/ochocinco-says-he-probably-wont-wear-no-15/"]he probably wouldn't wear[/url] the No. 15 jersey of his late teammate Chris Henry, and this morning Ochocinco confirmed that he won't.

Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that Ochocinco texted him this morning that he won't wear 15.

"It's becoming more of a distraction for myself and my team," Ochocinco told Schefter. "Chris wouldn't want it to go the way it is."

In what looked like an effort to pick a P.R. fight it thought it would win with the league, the NFL Players Association [url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/19/nflpa-says-it-will-pay-ochocincos-fine-if-he-wears-no-15/"]promised to pay any fine that Ochocinco might incur[/url]. But Ochocinco is making the very mature decision not to turn Henry's death into a P.R. battlefield.




[url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/20/ochocinco-wont-wear-15/"]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/20/ochocinco-wont-wear-15/[/url]

[CatScratchFever]

[quote name='T-Dub' date='19 December 2009 - 07:45 PM' timestamp='1261266329' post='844853']
Not to change the topic back to the topic, but I recall the [i]entire[/i] Red's team coming out in Nuxie's #41 for a game. Maybe they can all wear #15 during warm-ups at least, since Goodell is a giant twat where the Bengals are concerned. That'd be pretty cool imo.
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I forgot about that. That was pretty awesome. But again, the whole team did it, not just one guy. Probably a little easier to do in baseball though, where the numbers are meaningless.

[|Numbers|]

[quote name='fredtoast' date='20 December 2009 - 10:12 AM' timestamp='1261318363' post='844954']
Tillman signing with the military was a publicity stunt?

You call that a "fact"?

Listen, if you are going to devote your life to being nothing more than a shit stirrer on a message board you are going to have to step up your game. Cause right now you are pretty weak at it. Calling your silly opinion fact doesn't really do much to carry an argument among adults.
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I can't speak for his intent on publicity. However, who in their search for publicity would, in their right mind, knowingly put their life in jeopardy ?

[|Bunghole|]

[quote name='oldschooler' date='20 December 2009 - 10:47 AM' timestamp='1261320442' post='844971']
[b][size="5"]Ochocinco won't wear 15[/size][/b]
Posted by Michael David Smith on December 20, 2009 9:25 AM ET


On Saturday Bengals wide receiver Chad Ochocinco said [url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/19/ochocinco-says-he-probably-wont-wear-no-15/"]he probably wouldn't wear[/url] the No. 15 jersey of his late teammate Chris Henry, and this morning Ochocinco confirmed that he won't.

Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that Ochocinco texted him this morning that he won't wear 15.

"It's becoming more of a distraction for myself and my team," Ochocinco told Schefter. "Chris wouldn't want it to go the way it is."

In what looked like an effort to pick a P.R. fight it thought it would win with the league, the NFL Players Association [url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/19/nflpa-says-it-will-pay-ochocincos-fine-if-he-wears-no-15/"]promised to pay any fine that Ochocinco might incur[/url]. But Ochocinco is making the very mature decision not to turn Henry's death into a P.R. battlefield.




[url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/20/ochocinco-wont-wear-15/"]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/20/ochocinco-wont-wear-15/[/url]
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Well that sucks. I was kinda hoping he'd do it anyway, but he's right about the growing distraction. I'm glad Chad remembered that it was supposed to be about Chris, not himself.

I like this "new" Chad.