|Lucid| Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 This is where Kenneth's logic is invalid. That is not how the mechanics of the replay system works. It does not matter at all what the orginal ref saw or didn't see or told or didn't tell Triplette. This was not a coaches challenge, no one told Triplette what to look at. His charge was to observe the entire play and determine if BJGE was clearly down by contact (as called on the field) or clearly not. Neither was clear, therefore the call should have stood. I agree that is what Triplette's thought process was, but just because that is what he thought, doesn't mean he correctly applied the mechanics, which he did not. To me, it is pretty clear what happened. Triplette didn't see the trip and no one else did either (or the one who did, didn't tell him about it) and so he didn't even bother to look at that part of the play under the hood. Which follows along with Kenneth's logic, but it was still not the correct call. I'm not sure anyone has stated that he made the right call.. Am I missing something? For example I say this in my first post... It was obviously a missed call, because it's easy to surmise that he was tripped, which is confirmed to the press by both BJGE and the DT after the game. However, the conclusion reached by replay makes sense in this context.. Mine and Kenneth's contention was that if none of the officials saw the trip in the backfield, it would explain in what way the call was missed. It explains what Triplett means when he says they only looked at the possible goal line contact (which never made sense to me). It's a blown call in this instance, but not quite as outrageous as it first appeared.. Which at the time seemed pretty unfathomable. If no one saw the contact in the backfield, wouldn't you need irrefutable proof to decare him down by that contact in the video review? I am not sure on how that works.. I have a feeling it's not terribly black and white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coup000 Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 So, let me see If I understand this correctly. No official on the field made a call, they just let him fall to the field and the guy in the booth made the call. Or was it that an Official on the field made a call, and that the person in the booth thought it was worth taking a look at it, because the call made by the OFFICIAL ON THE FIELD might have been wrong? It wasn't a scoring play or a turnover, so it wasn't done automatically, the person in the booth made a decision that the call on the field might not quite be right. So you think Tripplette didn't talk to anyone on HIS CREW? About a call one of them had just made? I kinda think you're just arguing to argue right now. By the way, I am in no way saying I'm right, I'm simply giving you an option that would have allowed Tripplette to make the decision he did, whether that decision was right or wrong. Either way, I'm just happy a call went our way. You added this after I responded. We are now in complete agreement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Lucid| Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 You added this after I responded. We are now in complete agreement. I really think we were the whole time.. I think we were just in different areas of the process. Kenneth and I had moved on from right or wrong and were trying to figure out why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis_Bengal Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 Anyone else think it's ironic the ref that missed the call is named TRIPlette? Or has that already been discussed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bunghole| Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 Anyone else think it's ironic the ref that missed the call is named TRIPlette? Or has that already been discussed? No, but he has a history of making bad calls... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted December 14, 2013 Report Share Posted December 14, 2013 » Lewis, a member of the competition committee, doesn't see the group passing a resolution to funnel instant replay to a central official in New York instead of going under the hood in each stadium. Lewis says it has the danger of the "Wizard of Oz." "The guy on the field should be in charge of the game. You want to put somebody else in charge of the game?" Lewis said. "What if we have three at once? What are we going to do? Who makes that decision? You're defeating your purpose. It's like Wizard of Oz. You've got Oz. Some guy behind the curtian." http://www.bengals.com/news/article-1/Friday-update-Newman-out-Sunday-Harrison-ill-again-but-probable-Dye-back/27449dda-a064-4108-9277-0cb02ccac48d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eva4ben-gal Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 Weren't the people of Oz generally very happy and prosperous? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigris Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 Weren't the people of Oz generally very happy and prosperous? Have you seen Return to Oz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eva4ben-gal Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 Have you seen Return to Oz? If I have I don't remember it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigris Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 If I have I don't remember it. Very unhappy folk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bunghole| Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 Weren't the people of Oz generally very happy and prosperous? The Oompa-Loompas are pretty happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalBacker Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 Weren't the people of Oz generally very happy and prosperous? They were having drunken orgies at night after filming, so I don't know how prosperous they were, but I'd say they were happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hint of Snow Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 The Oompa-Loompas are pretty happy. Well they got to eat chocolate all day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 » Lewis, a member of the competition committee, doesn't see the group passing a resolution to funnel instant replay to a central official in New York instead of going under the hood in each stadium. Lewis says it has the danger of the "Wizard of Oz." "The guy on the field should be in charge of the game. You want to put somebody else in charge of the game?" Lewis said. "What if we have three at once? What are we going to do? Who makes that decision? You're defeating your purpose. It's like Wizard of Oz. You've got Oz. Some guy behind the curtian." http://www.bengals.com/news/article-1/Friday-update-Newman-out-Sunday-Harrison-ill-again-but-probable-Dye-back/27449dda-a064-4108-9277-0cb02ccac48d I don't know...this process has worked pretty decent for the NHL. Granted...smaller playing area, less players, less things to review. It gets just as frustrating for fans in arena though...everyone on ice milling about while some ref is on the phone to Toronto. And I have seen circumstance where there is more than one game with a review going on at the same time. It does drag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigris Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 The Oompa-Loompas are pretty happy. That's Charlie & the Chocolate Factory. Different worlds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricket Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 I'm just afraid that we'll see a make-up call against the Bengals this coming Sunday. ...sometimes I hate being right. :2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldcat Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 ...sometimes I hate being right. :2: You know Hochuli reads this board. You gave him the idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyInDC Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 I thought all bad things that happen to the Bengals are Andy Dalton's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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