MichaelWeston Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1X5zdTRZPDkDPyoBeBmCfryu321hyal7qybbZpLYIOqE/edit?usp=sharing Last years convo Green=Guys I like Gold=Guys that I'd target over everybody Green/Teal=Notes that stand out for guys Red=Bad stats/notes Purple=Was coached by our coach Draft Order Cap DL Age Overall Run D Pass Rush Coverage Snaps Starts 24/Career stats Notes Rankins-Bengals 31 55.3 46.2 58.9 71.2 287 7/73 18-1fl-1h-1s 216B 6'2 305 2026 Jackson-Benglas 23 53 53.1 51.2 65.5 248 1/13 15-2f;-1h-1s-1ff 181B 6'2 325 2028 Jenkins-Bengals 24 45.4 46.6 53.5 52.4 496 9/9 31-3fl-5h-3s 409B 6'3 305 2028 Hill-Bengals 30 70.2 69.2 64.2 63.3 710 17/52 51-2fl-21h-4.5s-1fr-5pd 529B 6'3 311 UFA Tufele-Bengals 26 44.4 42 56.3 55.3 242 3/5 15-1fl-2h-.5s-1pd 201B 6'3 305 UFA Draft Order Cap DL Age Overall Run D Pass Rush Coverage Snaps Starts 24/Career stats Notes B Ford-Chargers 29 85.3 80.3 70 68.6 652 17/81 39-8fl-9h-3s-5pd-1int 541B 5'11 310 4 Campbell-Dolphins 39 82.3 85.9 66.2 63.5 616 17/242 52-12fl-12h-5s-1ff-5pd 234B-224O-137OVT 6'8 282 1yr 2M Captain Tart-Chargers 28 78.1 69.1 79.3 66 378 0/36 29-5fl-5h-1s-1fr-1ff-2pd-1int 236B-106A 6'2 304 Williams-Eagles 26 75.8 41.9 91.5 62 653 7/19 24-7fl-10h-5s-1fr-1ff-1pd 509B-108OVT 6'3 290 3 Reed-Seahawks 32 70.6 58.2 73.7 61.3 679 8/118 45-5fl-15h-4.5s-1ff-2pd 479B-155 OVT 6'3 307 2yr 9M Montgomery-2022 1 Joseph-Day-Titans 30 70.3 77.9 52.3 60.7 483 12/80 44-3fl-6h-2.5s-1pd 206Out-157B-115OVT 6'4 310 1yr 4M Hill-Bengals 30 70.2 69.2 64.2 63.3 710 17/52 51-2fl-21h-4.5s-1fr-5pd 529B 6'3 311 UFA 7 Odighizuwa-Cowboys 27 68.1 50.8 78.5 61.6 859 17/63 47-4fl-23h-4.5s-1ff-1pd 571B-222OVT 6'2 280 Jones-Broncos 30 67.3 64.6 70.6 49.3 510 17/94 42-1fl-3h-1s-1fr-3pd 324B-170A 6'0 305 9 Gholston-Bucs 34 67 60.4 65.9 66.8 205 3/91 12-1fl-4h-1s 104B-64OVT 6'6 281 6 Graham-Falcons 26 63.9 67.4 58.7 60 193 0/16 12-1h 133B-49OVT 6'4 294 5 Ledbetter-Jaguars 31 63 66.2 49.5 66.8 441 3/5 38-8fl-4h-2s 379B-41A 6'3 299 Pennel-Chiefs 34 62.6 66.4 58.5 55.1 365 7/25 25-3fl-2h-3s-1ff 314B 6'4 332 6 Street-Falcons 28 61.5 60.4 57.4 74.5 280 0/10 15-4fl-1h-1s 158B-85A-32OVT 6'2 287 Brown-Rams 25 61.4 65.7 55.5 60.3 513 16/30 44-4fl-1h-1pd 305B 6'4 324 4 Hand-Dolphins 29 60.5 61.8 58.6 59.5 564 2/13 31-4fl-4h-1s-1fr-1ff-1pd 457B 6'3 297 7 Watkins-Cowboys 31 60.2 63 50.9 62.6 228 0/37 12 188B 6'3 305 1 Lynch-Titans 26 60.1 60.7 56.2 59.7 243 0/3 20-2fl-2h-1s 161B 6'4 295 Loudermilk-Stealers 28 59.3 63.9 55.2 54.7 255 0/5 17-1pd 137B 82 OVT 6'7 293 3 Watts-Giants 29 58.8 46.9 71.5 60 87 0/22 7-2fl 40B-33OVT 6'5 307 Bryan-Colts 29 58.1 55.2 65.3 60.4 340 6/46 20-3fl-2h-1s-1fr-1pd 242B 6'4 291 8 Edwards-Texans 31 57.9 46.4 69.2 65.7 519 12/45 31-3fl-8h-3s-2fr-2pd 414B 6'3 280 5 Johnson-Bills 31 57.5 51.3 58.3 67.2 353 1/56 19-.5s-2pd-2int 314B 6'4 314 6 Butler-Raiders 31 56.9 48.3 60.1 70.5 856 16/23 65-8fl-10h-5s-1ff-2pd 531B-212OVT-103A 6'4 300 1yr 1.8M PRWR 10% Wharton-Chiefs 27 56.3 41.5 70.5 47.3 733 10/13 29-7fl-11h-6.5s-1ff-2pd 547B-117A 6'1 280 9 Gaines-Bucs 29 56 65.8 50 59.2 421 3/30 17-2fl-4h-1s 295B-78A 6'1 312 Davis-49ers 29 54.9 56.8 52.8 60 209 0/1 3 151B 6'2 310 10 Urban-Ravens 34 53.5 56.4 53.5 57.1 209 34 20-2pd 125B 6'7 309 7 Kinlaw-Jets 28 53.4 50.8 68.2 55.3 695 17/45 40-5fl-5h-4.5s-1fr-1ff 341B-338OVT 6'5 319 1yr 7.25M PRWR 10% 4 Jones-Dolphins 27 51.3 47.6 63 53 481 15/30 24-4fl-3h 413B 6'1 335 5 Jefferson-Bills 32 50.3 47.6 54.3 59.9 258 0/62 8-2fl-2h-1s 145OVT 6'4 291 Gallimore-Rams 28 49.9 47.1 56 60 308 4/18 19-1h 182B-110OVT 6'2 302 Givens-49ers 28 49.6 38.4 68.2 60 185 1/14 11-2fl-6h-3.5s 162B 6'1 285 8 Williams-Panthers 32 47.9 41.3 53.8 62.1 338 1/45 16-4h-.5s 190B 6'1 295 2 2 Hurst-Browns 30 45.3 50.8 53.7 55.4 164 2/19 16-4fl-1h-.5s 122B-38OVT 6'2 290 Tufele-Bengals 26 44.4 42 56.3 55.3 242 3/5 15-1fl-2h-.5s-1pd 201B 6'3 305 UFA O'Connor-Lions 31 43.5 47.9 55.3 59.5 235 0/12 18-2fl-1h-1s 146B 6'4 270 Slaton-Packers 27 43 44 56 56 457 17/36 30-2fl-3h-1s 363B 6'5 330 Montgomery-2023 3 Hankins-Seahawks 33 35.9 36.2 55.3 64.2 389 8/142 30-5fl-2h-1s-1pd 268B-121A 6'3 320 re 8 Fatukasi-Texans 30 35.6 33.9 56.9 65.7 366 11/63 24-4fl-3h-1s 337B 6'4 318 5 Phillips-Bills 33 34.9 28.4 61 62.8 185 0/62 5-1h-1pd-1int 130B 6'6 341 Montgomery-2014 Nnadi-Chiefs 29 37.6 42.1 46.4 57.7 248 1/87 11 233B 6'1 317 Draft Order Cap DL Age Overall Run D Pass Rush Coverage Snaps Starts 24/Career stats Notes A Lopez-Cardinals 28 54.9 45.5 67.4 65.8 464 16/50 28-4fl-3h-1s-1fr-1ff-3pd 268A-168B 6'2 318 7 Joseph-Cowboys 36 54.1 38.9 77.5 79.3 264 0/170 19-2fl-3h-1ff 174A 6'4 329 6 Jenkins-Raiders 36 53.1 49.9 57.5 60.6 606 17/64 46-3fl-4h-1s-2pd 307A-295B 6'3 327 1yr 2.94M 6 Goldman-Falcons 31 49.3 47.5 61.5 NA 330 10/83 16-1fl-3h-1s 263A-65B 6'4 332 Peko-Lions 32 45.8 36.8 58.3 86 1/14 2-1fl-1h 51A-32B 6'1 305 1 Quote
sparky151 Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 I'd be interested in Lopez, Ford, Tart, Campbell, Joseph-Day, and Reed as inexpensive options to upgrade our run or pass defense. Williams or Odigizhuwa if we're going top shelf. Quote
T-Dub Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 Our rookie DTs looked promising but I didn't see near enough to think they should both be full time starters next season. Quote
|BlackJesus| Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 We need a true NT who is 340+ lbs. We got our dancing bear 🐻 in Mims Now we need a beached walrus on the DL. 2 Quote
MichaelWeston Posted February 21 Author Report Posted February 21 My thoughts 1-I'd re-sign Hill 2-Cut Rankins 3-As others have said Jenkins and Jackson look promising but not amazing 4-Tufele is probably back on league minimum 5-Could be a near complete overhaul here with the 2 rookies from last year and no one else. 1 Quote
claptonrocks Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 58 minutes ago, MichaelWeston said: My thoughts 1-I'd re-sign Hill 2-Cut Rankins 3-As others have said Jenkins and Jackson look promising but not amazing 4-Tufele is probably back on league minimum 5-Could be a near complete overhaul here with the 2 rookies from last year and no one else. Re-sign Hill....definitely. Will his salary demand be too much? 1 Quote
I_C_Deadpeople Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 10 minutes ago, claptonrocks said: Re-sign Hill....definitely. Will his salary demand be too much? I doubt it, he is an older rotation guy now. 1 Quote
MichaelWeston Posted February 21 Author Report Posted February 21 DT Poona Ford-Started all 17 games last year, 3 sacks for the chargers Calais Campbell-He’s 39 but was productive on a 2 M contract last year Milton Williams-Just 26, 5 sacks last year for the Super Bowl Champs Jarran Reed-32 and still productive with 15hurries and 4.5 sacks last year, coached by our DL coach in 2022, If we go after anyone I think it might be him Joseph-Day-He’s bounced around the league a bit after being cut by the Chargers He’s 30 but had 2.6 sacks last year playing all over the line in Tennessee Odighizuwa-Just 27, 23 hurries last year, 4.5 sacks, a bit undersized for what we like at 280, Started all 17 games last year for the Cowboys Mario Edwards-He will maybe be on his eighth team next year and 31 but he’s productive 8hurries and 3 sacks last year, but he too is 280 Adam Butler-He’s productive but his PFF scores are bad-10hurries and 5 sacks, PRWR was 10% and a run stop WR at 40% Wharton-Just 27 and with some nice production this year for the chiefs, 11hurries, 6.5sacks, very bad run defender Kinlaw-Good pass rusher who was relatively cheap for the Jets last year TJ Slaton-here is your 330 guy, coached by our new DL coach for 3 years in GB, PFF scores aren’t great, started all 17 games last year and has 36 total in 4 years. His Run stop WR was 46% which was #1 overall by ESPN. Roy Lopez-An A gapper who has been ok in Arizona and Houston John Jenkins-36 years old but had 46 tackles from the DT spot Quote
sparky151 Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 3 hours ago, MichaelWeston said: My thoughts 1-I'd re-sign Hill 2-Cut Rankins 3-As others have said Jenkins and Jackson look promising but not amazing 4-Tufele is probably back on league minimum 5-Could be a near complete overhaul here with the 2 rookies from last year and no one else. I'd only keep Hendrickson and the guys on rookie deals from last year's D-line. Let Hill, Ossai, and Tufele go elsewhere. Cut Rankins and Hubbard and start fresh. Sign at least 1 10 mil+ guy for the D-line plus some solid vet depth. I'd sign at least 3 or 4 free agent D-linemen and want to upgrade our depth from Tufele level. Quote
-GoBengals- Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 im not sure if Hill fits Goldens wants on DL or not.. time will tell, i like hill, but he is an avearage rotation guy, and with two solid young rotation guys hill may not be worth keeping. hell his job may depending whats in the draft. this is one of those DT deep as fuck drafts where you can score top tallent in rounds 2-3. so depending how other dominos fall, a pick may be a much better option than hill. unless he wants pennies to be a depth guy. Quote
T-Dub Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 They chose to lean heavily on DL rookies last season then got caught out when they had to play before they were ready. If Hill walks they would be wise to bring in another vet or two. I'll keep saying it - good teams don't count on rookies. Quote
MichaelWeston Posted February 27 Author Report Posted February 27 Pats have given Davon Godchaux the ability to seek a trade. Looks like he'd be about 8M for a year Quote
I_C_Deadpeople Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 9 hours ago, T-Dub said: They chose to lean heavily on DL rookies last season then got caught out when they had to play before they were ready. If Hill walks they would be wise to bring in another vet or two. I'll keep saying it - good teams don't count on rookies. Did not the Eagles have 2 starters in thier defensive backfield this past season? And I dont think we intended to start rookies on DL, we just had injuries and Rankins was useless. I think the intention was to rotate them in as the season progressed. Quote
sparky151 Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 4 hours ago, MichaelWeston said: Pats have given Davon Godchaux the ability to seek a trade. Looks like he'd be about 8M for a year Pass. Let's aim a little higher. It doesn't have to be Milton Williams or Osa Odighizuwa but at least to the Jarren Reed/Poona Ford/Teair Tart level. Quote
MichaelWeston Posted February 27 Author Report Posted February 27 I really doubt Teair Tart is in the mix Quote
sparky151 Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 Didn't the Bengals try to claim him on waivers in 2023? Quote
MichaelWeston Posted February 28 Author Report Posted February 28 3 hours ago, sparky151 said: Didn't the Bengals try to claim him on waivers in 2023? They brought him in in the offseason and then passed on him. Quote
MichaelWeston Posted March 4 Author Report Posted March 4 Levi Onwuzurike He is the guy that everyone in the know says we are going after. Quote
sparky151 Posted March 4 Report Posted March 4 Jay Morrison had an article today making the case for Onwuzurike as a pass rushing DT. Quote
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