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[Enon Bengal]

Notice to All Employees

As of November 5, 2008, when President Obama is officially elected into office, our company will instill a few new policies which are in keeping with his new, inspiring issues of change and fairness:

1. All salespeople will be pooling their sales and bonuses into a common pool that will be divided equally between all of you. This will serve to give those of you who are under achieving a "fair shake."


2. All low level workers will be pooling their wages, including overtime, into a common pool, dividing it equally amongst yourselves. This will help those who are "too busy for overtime" to reap the rewards from those who have more spare time and can work extra hours.


3. All top management will now be referred to as "the government." We will not participate in this "pooling" experience because the law doesn't apply to us.


4. The "government" will give eloquent speeches to all employees every week, encouraging you to continue to work hard "for the good of all."


5. The employees will be thrilled with these new policies because it's "good to spread the wealth." Those of you who have underachieved will finally get an opportunity...those of you who have worked hard and had success will feel more "patriotic."


6. The last few people who were hired should clean out their desks. Don't feel bad, though, because President Obama will give you free healthcare, free handouts, free oil for heating your home, free food stamps, and he'll let you stay in your home for as long as you want even if you can't pay your mortgage. If you appeal directly to our democratic congress, you might even get a free flat screen TV and a coupon for free haircuts (shouldn't all Americans be entitled to nice looking hair?)!!!

[CTBengalsFan]

lol chain e-mails

[sois]

I now despise obama.

[Nati Ice]

i am voting for mccain now, thou hast convinced thine


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lol poor analogies

[GoatGreen]

I'm not voting Obama but the part they always leave out in these chain mails is that this wealth redistribution would only apply to those making more than 670,000 a year.

[|Bunghole|]

[quote name='GoatGreen' post='719950' date='Oct 31 2008, 06:20 PM']I'm not voting Obama but the part they always leave out in these chain mails is that this wealth redistribution would only apply to those making more than 670,000 a year.[/quote]
You know, while that MAY be true...in a capitalist society, I am not sure if I like this idea.

People that make that much money ALREADY pay ENOUGH taxes as it is. If I was a self-made millionaire that worked my fucking ass off to achieve my wealth, dreams and goals, I would absolutely resent having to pay EVEN MORE of MY money to prop up someone else.

Now, if you want to argue inheritance taxes or some such, people that inherit millions of dollars for simply being born into the right set of circumstances, then maybe...although I also feel in that respect that people have already been taxed pre-mortem on that money and should have the ability through their legal will and testament to give the money to whom they choose without having to pay addittional taxes on already taxed income.

Sigh.

[Homer_Rice]

Why are we such suck-ups to the rich? Are we looking for crumbs?

More porridge, please, Mr. Oligarch.

[|Bunghole|]

[quote name='Homer_Rice' post='719957' date='Oct 31 2008, 07:09 PM']Why are we such suck-ups to the rich? Are we looking for crumbs?

More porridge, please, Mr. Oligarch.[/quote]
I suppose I was overstating.

[STRAYCAT]

As I was passing out candy tonight I decide to do like Obama....I looked into their baskets and pulled out of the ones who had more and gave it to the other kid who had the least....for some reason that didn't go down too well with the kids who ran their ass off for their candy.....the ones I gave it to seemed ungrateful...they wanted more!

[rudi32]

its laughable if you think only those making 250k will get more tax

once started it can be easily dropped to 150k, 100k and lower. As a family I imagine 70% on here make 100k or more.

A new video advertisement released by the Obama campaign says the candidate's promised tax cuts are for citizens making less than $200,000 a year, not the widely reported figure of $250,000.
Adding to the confusion, Obama's running mate, Joe Biden, said in an interview yesterday the cuts are for even fewer people, limited to incomes of $150,000 or less.
Depending on the source of information, just who will have their taxes raised and who will have them cut under Obama's plan varies.
The campaign's homepage, for example, accessed today, reads, "Obama said he wanted to give a tax break to all families making under $250,000 per year, which he said was 95 percent of American workers."

Yet in the "Defining Moment" ad released on YouTube last week and viewable below, Obama says the tax cut "for 95 percent of working Americans" is only for those who make less than $200,000 per year.
According to the 2006 IRS statistics published by the National Taxpayers Union, "95 percent of working Americans" only includes those making less than $153,542 per year.
And now, Fox News reports Biden told a Scranton, Pa., TV station yesterday that Obama's tax break "should go to middle class people – people making under $150,000 a year."

At a rally in Pennsylvania, CBS News reports, McCain took the opportunity to blast Obama as a candidate with more and more taxes on his mind.
"Sen. Obama has made a lot of promises," McCain said. "First he said people making less than $250,000 would benefit from his plan, then this weekend he announced in an ad that if you're a family making less than $200,000 you'll benefit – but yesterday, right here in Pennsylvania, Sen. Biden said tax relief should only go to 'middle class people – people making under $150,000 a year.' You getting an idea of what's on their mind?"

"I'll launch a rescue plan for the middle class that begins with a tax cut for 95 percent of working Americans," Obama says in the "Defining Moment" advertisement. "If you have a job, pay taxes and make less than $200,000 a year, you'll get a tax cut."
The full "Defining Moment" advertisement can be seen below:
The disparity in the numbers has Republican campaigners riled.

The Obama campaign media site, The Record, quotes Tucker Bounds, spokesman for McCain-Palin saying, "By adjusting his tax increases to include anyone making more than $200,000, Barack Obama has reversed himself and issued a shifty new call for at least 1 million more hardworking Americans to be added to his plans for higher taxes."

[STRAYCAT]

[quote name='rudi32' post='719968' date='Oct 31 2008, 10:07 PM']its laughable if you think only those making 250k will get more tax

once started it can be easily dropped to 150k, 100k and lower. As a family I imagine 70% on here make 100k or more.

A new video advertisement released by the Obama campaign says the candidate's promised tax cuts are for citizens making less than $200,000 a year, not the widely reported figure of $250,000.
Adding to the confusion, Obama's running mate, Joe Biden, said in an interview yesterday the cuts are for even fewer people, limited to incomes of $150,000 or less.
Depending on the source of information, just who will have their taxes raised and who will have them cut under Obama's plan varies.
The campaign's homepage, for example, accessed today, reads, "Obama said he wanted to give a tax break to all families making under $250,000 per year, which he said was 95 percent of American workers."

Yet in the "Defining Moment" ad released on YouTube last week and viewable below, Obama says the tax cut "for 95 percent of working Americans" is only for those who make less than $200,000 per year.
According to the 2006 IRS statistics published by the National Taxpayers Union, "95 percent of working Americans" only includes those making less than $153,542 per year.
And now, Fox News reports Biden told a Scranton, Pa., TV station yesterday that Obama's tax break "should go to middle class people – people making under $150,000 a year."

At a rally in Pennsylvania, CBS News reports, McCain took the opportunity to blast Obama as a candidate with more and more taxes on his mind.
"Sen. Obama has made a lot of promises," McCain said. "First he said people making less than $250,000 would benefit from his plan, then this weekend he announced in an ad that if you're a family making less than $200,000 you'll benefit – but yesterday, right here in Pennsylvania, Sen. Biden said tax relief should only go to 'middle class people – people making under $150,000 a year.' You getting an idea of what's on their mind?"

"I'll launch a rescue plan for the middle class that begins with a tax cut for 95 percent of working Americans," Obama says in the "Defining Moment" advertisement. "If you have a job, pay taxes and make less than $200,000 a year, you'll get a tax cut."
The full "Defining Moment" advertisement can be seen below:
The disparity in the numbers has Republican campaigners riled.

The Obama campaign media site, The Record, quotes Tucker Bounds, spokesman for McCain-Palin saying, "By adjusting his tax increases to include anyone making more than $200,000, Barack Obama has reversed himself and issued a shifty new call for at least 1 million more hardworking Americans to be added to his plans for higher taxes."[/quote]



BINGO! better think about it people.

[Jungle1]

If businesses pay more taxes under Obama, the cost will be passed to us.

If Obama wants to be really tricky, he can let the Bush tax cuts expire in 2010 and all our taxes will go up...oh, I mean "back" to pre-cut levels.

sneaky, sneaky......

[Vol_Bengal]

[quote name='GoatGreen' post='719950' date='Oct 31 2008, 07:20 PM']I'm not voting Obama but the part they always leave out in these chain mails is that this wealth redistribution would only apply to those making more than 670,000 a year.[/quote]


I've never heard 670,000 being the magic number...


I've heard 250,000 initially... now in recent days I've heard 200,000 and 150,000 at those levels those folks are going to pay a higher percentage of tax on that money. That, my friend, is wealth redistribution...

[-GoBengals-]

[quote name='rudi32' post='719968' date='Oct 31 2008, 10:07 PM']its laughable if you think only those making 250k will get more tax

once started it can be easily dropped to 150k, 100k and lower. As a family I imagine 70% on here make 100k or more.

A new video advertisement released by the Obama campaign says the candidate's promised tax cuts are for citizens making less than $200,000 a year, not the widely reported figure of $250,000.
Adding to the confusion, Obama's running mate, Joe Biden, said in an interview yesterday the cuts are for even fewer people, limited to incomes of $150,000 or less.
Depending on the source of information, just who will have their taxes raised and who will have them cut under Obama's plan varies.
The campaign's homepage, for example, accessed today, reads, "Obama said he wanted to give a tax break to all families making under $250,000 per year, which he said was 95 percent of American workers."

Yet in the "Defining Moment" ad released on YouTube last week and viewable below, Obama says the tax cut "for 95 percent of working Americans" is only for those who make less than $200,000 per year.
According to the 2006 IRS statistics published by the National Taxpayers Union, "95 percent of working Americans" only includes those making less than $153,542 per year.
And now, Fox News reports Biden told a Scranton, Pa., TV station yesterday that Obama's tax break "should go to middle class people – people making under $150,000 a year."

At a rally in Pennsylvania, CBS News reports, McCain took the opportunity to blast Obama as a candidate with more and more taxes on his mind.
"Sen. Obama has made a lot of promises," McCain said. "First he said people making less than $250,000 would benefit from his plan, then this weekend he announced in an ad that if you're a family making less than $200,000 you'll benefit – but yesterday, right here in Pennsylvania, Sen. Biden said tax relief should only go to 'middle class people – people making under $150,000 a year.' You getting an idea of what's on their mind?"

"I'll launch a rescue plan for the middle class that begins with a tax cut for 95 percent of working Americans," Obama says in the "Defining Moment" advertisement. "If you have a job, pay taxes and make less than $200,000 a year, you'll get a tax cut."
The full "Defining Moment" advertisement can be seen below:
The disparity in the numbers has Republican campaigners riled.

The Obama campaign media site, The Record, quotes Tucker Bounds, spokesman for McCain-Palin saying, "By adjusting his tax increases to include anyone making more than $200,000, Barack Obama has reversed himself and issued a shifty new call for at least 1 million more hardworking Americans to be added to his plans for higher taxes."[/quote]


i can assure you over 80% of people here are in a household making under 100K...

[rudi32]

[quote name='GoBengals' post='719998' date='Oct 31 2008, 11:21 PM']i can assure you over 80% of people here are in a household making under 100K...[/quote]


really?

my wife and I make 100k, I bet you are fibbing

the average american family has 2 incomes, both around 45-55k, so that easily makes over 100k. If you sleep better at night voting for higher taxes, so be it, but I wont vote for higher taxes. and unless you are on welfare, the dems will increase your taxes/

[|Elflocko|]

[quote name='rudi32' post='720010' date='Nov 1 2008, 01:12 AM']really?

my wife and I make 100k, I bet you are fibbing

the average american family has 2 incomes, both around 45-55k, so that easily makes over 100k. If you sleep better at night voting for higher taxes, so be it, but I wont vote for higher taxes. and unless you are on welfare, the dems will increase your taxes/[/quote]


And I make more than you and your wife, BFD.


I don't have a problem with higher taxes. We're currently sporting a [b]10 TRILLION DOLLAR NATIONAL DEBT[/b]. Our "leaders" need to bring in more money and cut spending (read get the fuck out of Iraq and every other country we've been sticking our noses into). If I can do my part to pay down the debt and get our nation off the hook for trillions of dollars that we've borrowed from China and others, I'll do it gladly.

The problem is [b]neither[/b] candidate that will emerge victorious on Tuesday will accomplish that feat.

We're going down, and we're taking the rest of the world with us...

[Homer_Rice]

[quote name='rudi32' post='720010' date='Nov 1 2008, 02:12 AM']really?

my wife and I make 100k, I bet you are fibbing

the average american family has 2 incomes, both around 45-55k, so that easily makes over 100k. If you sleep better at night voting for higher taxes, so be it, but I wont vote for higher taxes. and unless you are on welfare, the dems will increase your taxes/[/quote]
[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_United_States"]Check your numbers.[/url]

[ChicagoBengal]

[quote name='Homer_Rice' post='720033' date='Nov 1 2008, 06:38 AM'][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_United_States"]Check your numbers.[/url][/quote]
The household income stats are just a left wing conspiracy perpetrated by evil-doers like Homer!!!

[Homer_Rice]

[quote name='ChicagoBengal' post='720044' date='Nov 1 2008, 09:34 AM']The household income stats are just a left wing conspiracy perpetrated by evil-doers like Homer!!![/quote]
Too bad I'm not schizophrenic. Then you could put me in a room by myself and there would still be a crowd--a crowd which spins left-wing conspiracies.

And, as a former drone in the newspaper biz, I'm also an honorary member of the biased Liberal media. Instead of getting a pension, I get frequently updated talking points to make it easier to spread the evil.

[ChicagoBengal]

[quote name='Homer_Rice' post='720046' date='Nov 1 2008, 07:49 AM']Too bad I'm not schizophrenic. Then you could put me in a room by myself and there would still be a crowd--a crowd which spins left-wing conspiracies.

And, as a former drone in the newspaper biz, I'm also an honorary member of the biased Liberal media. Instead of getting a pension, I get frequently updated talking points to make it easier to spread the evil.[/quote]

[Ben]

[quote name='STRAYCAT' post='719966' date='Oct 31 2008, 08:53 PM']As I was passing out candy tonight I decide to do like Obama....I looked into their baskets and pulled out of the ones who had more and gave it to the other kid who had the least....for some reason that didn't go down too well with the kids who ran their ass off for their candy.....the ones I gave it to seemed ungrateful...they wanted more! [/quote]


you stole that from a comic strip

[STRAYCAT]

[quote name='Ben' post='720053' date='Nov 1 2008, 10:08 AM']you stole that from a comic strip[/quote]
no shit...just making a point.

[sois]

[quote name='Elflocko' post='720011' date='Nov 1 2008, 01:21 AM']I don't have a problem with higher taxes. We're currently sporting a [b]10 TRILLION DOLLAR NATIONAL DEBT[/b]. Our "leaders" need to bring in more money and cut spending (read get the fuck out of Iraq and every other country we've been sticking our noses into). If I can do my part to pay down the debt and get our nation off the hook for trillions of dollars that we've borrowed from China and others, I'll do it gladly.

The problem is [b]neither[/b] candidate that will emerge victorious on Tuesday will accomplish that feat.

We're going down, and we're taking the rest of the world with us...[/quote]

Yup. Can't be preaching all of this "lower taxes" BS when you are raising your expenditures. My big thing is gov't wasting boatloads of cash in other countries. Both candidates fail to resolve that issue. Green Party lady is the only one who seems to have any sense on this issue.

[Nati Ice]

[quote name='Vol_Bengal' post='719995' date='Nov 1 2008, 12:05 AM']I've never heard 670,000 being the magic number...


I've heard 250,000 initially... now in recent days I've heard 200,000 and 150,000 at those levels those folks are going to pay a higher percentage of tax on that money. That, my friend, is wealth redistribution...[/quote]ok so when teddy roosevelt championed a progressive income tax it wasnt wealth redistribution, and when george bush gave disproportiantely high tax cuts to the rich it wasnt wealth redistribution, but when a guy named barack obama proposed giving tax breaks to middle and lower income families all of a sudden the terminology changed.

oh, i get it! tax cuts are cool so long as they disproportionately affect the top 5%, but the second they begin to help the bottom 95% they all of a sudden become some combination of "wealth redistribution," "socialism," "marxism," and "communism"


seriously, whats with obssessive nature of people in this country who want nothing more than to protect the rich. the incentive to turn a profit cannot be removed in our type of govt.

[LoyalFanInGA v2.0]

It's funny reading or hearing this spin about how the Democrats are going to take your money and give some poor, lazy mother fucker who doesn't work as hard as you a handout.

The Spin Masters are really missing a couple of great opportunities to:

Explain how the wealthiest Americans and their tax dollars bought more bullets than some poor, lazy mother fucker who doesn't work as hard as they do which makes them more patriotic. Shame on you poor lazy mother fuckers not doing your duty as Americans.

Or explain how the wealthiest Americans kept more Wallstreet brokers from going homeless by giving to the [s]greedy[/s] needy...and will be deducting that charitible contribution on next year's tax returns.

One thing I haven't heard or read about is a "deficit." Can someone explain to me what a deficit is? And what our tax dollars have to do with a deficit. Is that some sort of hand out to an illegal Mexican immigrant named Jose de Ficit? Cause if it is, I'm against handouts to illegals immigrants named de Ficit. Because when the typical lazy mother fucking American welfare recipient sees how hard an illegal immigrant works for their money they say, "Fuck it. I'm not working that god damn hard." Then the lazy mother fuckers have no motivation to get a job. Which is why we need to build a border fence. A border fence funded by the wealthiest Americans, creating jobs for the lazy mother fucker welfare recepients, to keep the illegal immigrants out, to maintain the job seeking motivation of the lazy mother fuckers, who will then get a job, who will then pay more income taxes, creating more tax revenue for the government, which means I will pay less tax on my income. See? It's the Circle of Life.