-GoBengals- Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 [quote name='CatScratchFever' post='722584' date='Nov 9 2008, 10:33 AM']Obama thinks there are 57 states and that Iran is a tiny country. Biden thinks that Roosevelt was president when the Great Depression hit, and that he went on TV to talk about it, even though only prototypes existed at the time. But those were just "lovable gaffes" because they're the smartest people in the world and thank God they were elected to save us all from ourselves. Nah, I don't see a double standard here at all.[/quote] yea, cause the right side here is so even keel and balanced in their opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nati Ice Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 [quote name='CatScratchFever' post='722584' date='Nov 9 2008, 10:33 AM']Obama thinks there are 57 states and that Iran is a tiny country. Biden thinks that Roosevelt was president when the Great Depression hit, and that he went on TV to talk about it, even though only prototypes existed at the time. But those were just "lovable gaffes" because they're the smartest people in the world and thank God they were elected to save us all from ourselves. Nah, I don't see a double standard here at all.[/quote] hmmm... brightest candidate to run for public office in years makes lone obvious gaffe after months on the trail during a 20 hour day campaigning vs. uneducated self admitted podunk hick from the meth capital of alaska repeatedly fucks up in epic proportions then word leaks after the race that she was even dumber than she let on. not exactly a double standard, hell, its not even comparable. try as you might to simplify the circumstances the obama vs palin gaffe-off wasnt even close also biden and mccain are gaffe-a-minute candidates whose ages, im afraid, have slowly crept up on them, which is why their gaffesare never discussed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Tory Go! Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 [quote name='Nati Ice' post='722681' date='Nov 10 2008, 01:48 AM']also biden and mccain are gaffe-a-minute candidates whose ages, im afraid, have slowly crept up on them, which is why their gaffesare never discussed.[/quote] In that election-themed Mortal Kombat online game that was linked on here a while back, Biden's 'special power' was his 'foot-in-mouth' attack. And McCain's gaffes are great too. Although I think him ripping on Western PA is more of a Freudian slip than a simple gaffe: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccartman2 Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 [quote name='CatScratchFever' post='722584' date='Nov 9 2008, 09:33 AM']Obama thinks there are 57 states and that Iran is a tiny country. Biden thinks that Roosevelt was president when the Great Depression hit, and that he went on TV to talk about it, even though only prototypes existed at the time. But those were just "lovable gaffes" because they're the smartest people in the world and thank God they were elected to save us all from ourselves. Nah, I don't see a double standard here at all.[/quote] Well, internet rumors say that this was actually in regards to the 57 Islamic states of the OIC. Snopes.com says it is just a misstatement thinking he meant 47 continental states in the U.S. Of course we have all mistaken how many states our in the country that he wants to lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatScratchFever Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 [quote name='ccartman2' post='722884' date='Nov 10 2008, 11:25 PM']Well, internet rumors say that this was actually in regards to the 57 Islamic states of the OIC. Snopes.com says it is just a misstatement thinking he meant 47 continental states in the U.S. Of course we have all mistaken how many states our in the country that he wants to lead.[/quote] There are 48 states in the continental US last time I checked. Internet rumors: credibility = zero. Let's just keep in mind that these things that were said about Palin came from an "anonymous" source who doesn't have the guts to show his/her face and have the story scrutinized. Credibility = zero. I dunno... I'm still trying to figure out what Clinton's definition of "is" is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccartman2 Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 [quote name='CatScratchFever' post='722984' date='Nov 11 2008, 12:51 PM']There are 48 states in the continental US last time I checked. Internet rumors: credibility = zero. Let's just keep in mind that these things that were said about Palin came from an "anonymous" source who doesn't have the guts to show his/her face and have the story scrutinized. Credibility = zero. I dunno... I'm still trying to figure out what Clinton's definition of "is" is.[/quote] I said 47 because he had only been to 47 states and needed to visit one more. Alaska and Hawaii just aren't important for the national scene apparantly (I understand why). Anyway, that is why he said 57 instead of 47 with one to go. Not that it is important. Just thought I'd interject an opposing view to the statement, which would be fairly easy to confirm or deny if some one really spent the time. Personally, I think it time for all this to end. What is the point of bashing Palin, except for those who may just be scared of her politics. What it is time for is that this country get behind their elected leaders and for everyone to work together to solve our problems. If we don't, perhaps we deserve to collapse under the weight of those problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyInDC Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 [quote name='ccartman2' post='722987' date='Nov 11 2008, 06:58 PM']I said 47 because he had only been to 47 states and needed to visit one more. Alaska and Hawaii just aren't important for the national scene apparantly (I understand why). Anyway, that is why he said 57 instead of 47 with one to go. Not that it is important. Just thought I'd interject an opposing view to the statement, which would be fairly easy to confirm or deny if some one really spent the time. Personally, I think it time for all this to end. What is the point of bashing Palin, [b]except for those who may just be scared of her politics.[/b] What it is time for is that this country get behind their elected leaders and for everyone to work together to solve our problems. If we don't, perhaps we deserve to collapse under the weight of those problems.[/quote] Be afraid, you should be. [img]http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/political-pictures-sarah-palin-mayans.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatScratchFever Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 [quote name='CincyInDC' post='722995' date='Nov 11 2008, 01:43 PM']Be afraid, you should be. [img]http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/political-pictures-sarah-palin-mayans.jpg[/img][/quote] 2012 would still be under the Obama administration. Palin wouldn't take office until 2013. Just sayin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyInDC Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 [quote name='CatScratchFever' post='723014' date='Nov 11 2008, 09:53 PM']2012 would still be under the Obama administration. Palin wouldn't take office until 2013. Just sayin'.[/quote] Well played, Trebek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Tigers Johnson| Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 [b]MSNBC Retracts False Palin Story; Others Duped[/b] Network runs correction on air after reporting an adviser to John McCain had identified himself as the source of an embarrassing story about Sarah Palin, information stemming from a hoax. AP Thursday, November 13, 2008 17 x in order to recommend a story, you must login or register. NEW YORK -- MSNBC was the victim of a hoax when it reported that an adviser to John McCain had identified himself as the source of an embarrassing story about former vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin, the network said Wednesday. David Shuster, an anchor for the cable news network, said on air Monday that Martin Eisenstadt, a McCain policy adviser, had come forth and identified himself as the source of a FOX News Channel story saying Palin had mistakenly believed Africa was a country instead of a continent. Eisenstadt identifies himself on a blog as a senior fellow at the Harding Institute for Freedom and Democracy. Yet neither he nor the institute exist; each is part of a hoax dreamed up by a filmmaker named Eitan Gorlin and his partner, Dan Mirvish, the New York Times reported Wednesday. The Eisenstadt claim had mistakenly been delivered to Shuster by a producer and was used in a political discussion Monday afternoon, MSNBC said. "The story was not properly vetted and should not have made air," said Jeremy Gaines, network spokesman. "We recognized the error almost immediately and ran a correction on air within minutes." Gaines told the Times that someone in the network's newsroom had presumed the information solid because it was passed along in an e-mail from a colleague. The hoax was limited to the identity of the source in the story about Palin -- not the FOX News story itself. While Palin has denied that she mistook Africa for a country, the veracity of that report was not put in question by the revelation that Eisenstadt is a phony. Eisenstadt's "work" had been quoted and debunked before. The Huffington Post said it had cited Eisenstadt in July on a story regarding the Hilton family and McCain. Among the other victims were political blogs for the Los Angeles Times and The New Republic, each of which referenced false material from Eisenstadt's blog. And in July, Jonathan Stein of Mother Jones magazine blogged an item about Eisenstadt speaking on Iraqi television about a casino in Baghdad's "Green Zone." Stein later realized he'd been had. "Kudos to the inventor of this whole thing," Stein wrote. "My only consolation is that if I had as much time on my hands as he clearly does, I probably would have figured this out and saved myself a fair amount of embarrassment." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Tigers Johnson| Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 Well....it looks like more than just the media was duped....again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 [quote name='Tigers Johnson' post='723440' date='Nov 13 2008, 01:35 PM']Well....it looks like more than just the media was duped....again.[/quote] after seeing some of her interviews it wasnt hard to make a jump to that, the woman is pretty stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Tigers Johnson| Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 [quote name='Jamie_B' post='723441' date='Nov 13 2008, 02:56 PM']after seeing some of her interviews it wasnt hard to make a jump to that, the woman is pretty stupid.[/quote] My real ?? here is: When will most people realize they do not see what really is, but what the media wants them to see? ooooohhh....Walter where have you gone? I <3 yellow journalism.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 [quote name='Tigers Johnson' post='723444' date='Nov 13 2008, 03:12 PM']My real ?? here is: When will most people realize they do not see what really is, but what the media wants them to see? ooooohhh....Walter where have you gone? I <3 yellow journalism....[/quote] I dont know how not knowing what the bush doctorine, or not being able to name a supreme court decision you disagreed with, ect ect makes for yellow journalism, but whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Tory Go! Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 [quote name='Jamie_B' post='723441' date='Nov 13 2008, 01:56 PM']after seeing some of her interviews it wasnt hard to make a jump to that, the woman is pretty stupid.[/quote] The falsely reported story was not that Palin didn't know Africa was a continent, as was reported by Fox News. The correction was to a story MSNBC ran on the identity of the aide who leaked this story. Her duncehood is not brought into doubt by this correction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Tigers Johnson| Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 [quote name='Jamie_B' post='723453' date='Nov 13 2008, 05:47 PM']I dont know how not knowing what the bush doctorine, or not being able to name a supreme court decision you disagreed with, ect ect makes for yellow journalism, but whatever.[/quote] Fake people writing fake stories to make a political party look bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 [quote name='Tigers Johnson' post='723455' date='Nov 13 2008, 05:20 PM']Fake people writing fake stories to make a political party look bad?[/quote] Well as tory said, that part of the story wasnt faked, but she looked dumb before this anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatScratchFever Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 [quote name='Jamie_B' post='723441' date='Nov 13 2008, 01:56 PM']after seeing some of her interviews it wasnt hard to make a jump to that, the woman is pretty stupid.[/quote] I could make that same judgment about you from the spelling in your posts. All her interviews proved was that she's not a very good bullshitter like most politicians. A skill she will learn in time, I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Tigers Johnson| Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 [quote name='Jamie_B' post='723461' date='Nov 13 2008, 06:49 PM']Well as tory said, that part of the story wasnt faked, but she looked dumb before this anyway.[/quote] Your telling me that I am supposed to naively believe that a story written by a fake person is somehow supposed to be true? Eisenstadt identifies himself on a blog as a senior fellow at the Harding Institute for Freedom and Democracy. [b]Yet neither he nor the institute exist[/b]; each is part of a hoax dreamed up by a filmmaker named Eitan Gorlin and his partner, Dan Mirvish, the New York Times reported Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 [quote name='CatScratchFever' post='723465' date='Nov 13 2008, 06:01 PM']I could make that same judgment about you from the spelling in your posts. All her interviews proved was that she's not a very good bullshitter like most politicians. A skill she will learn in time, I'm sure.[/quote] The difference being that I am posting informally on a message board, she was being vetted as VP and should have been more prepared by her handlers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 [quote name='Tigers Johnson' post='723482' date='Nov 13 2008, 07:09 PM']Your telling me that I am supposed to naively believe that a story written by a fake person is somehow supposed to be true? Eisenstadt identifies himself on a blog as a senior fellow at the Harding Institute for Freedom and Democracy. [b]Yet neither he nor the institute exist[/b]; each is part of a hoax dreamed up by a filmmaker named Eitan Gorlin and his partner, Dan Mirvish, the New York Times reported Wednesday.[/quote] I dont care if you believe [b]this[/b] story is true or not. But I would hope you could at least see she isnt that bright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatScratchFever Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 [quote name='Jamie_B' post='723485' date='Nov 13 2008, 07:17 PM']The difference being that I am posting informally on a message board, she was being vetted as VP and should have been more prepared by her handlers. The difference being that I am posting informally on a message board, she was being vetted as VP and should have been more prepared by her handlers. The difference being that I am posting informally on a message board, she was being vetted as VP and should have been more prepared by her handlers.[/quote] Maybe, but that speaks more toward the competency of her "handlers" than Palin's intellect. Just because she talks with an accent and can't answer two of hundreds of questions tossed her way with the same political double-talk and non-answers that an experienced Washingtonian politician would, doesn't mean she's stupid. Should I repeat that twice more? or did you get it the first time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bunghole| Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 [quote name='Jamie_B' post='723453' date='Nov 13 2008, 04:47 PM']I[b] dont know how not knowing what the bush doctorine[/b], or not being able to name a supreme court decision you disagreed with, ect ect makes for yellow journalism, but whatever.[/quote] Dude, NOBODY knows what the "Bush Doctrine" is, not even Bush! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vol_Bengal Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 [quote name='Bunghole' post='723495' date='Nov 13 2008, 09:17 PM']Dude, NOBODY knows what the "Bush Doctrine" is, not even Bush![/quote] Exactly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STRAYCAT Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 Wait and worry about her in 2012...last I checked the election is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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