akiliMVP Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 Dez Bryant not an option because he will not be available when we pick. I'm having hard time deciding between Benn and LaFell. Benn has a ton of potential and everything you want in a #1 reciever. LaFell does all the little things and has been consistently productive. Benn has the upside but could be a huge bust. LaFell has too good of a work ethic to bust but I doubt he's ever a great player. I like Tate as the 3rd option because he plays tough and big. 21 is too high for DeMaryius. I don't think Gilyard or Williams fits what this offense needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 I like Golden Tate. Strong and physical..could become a nasty run blocker and our slot guy for the future. If not i'm all about Mardy. Mardy is going to be a good player. I firmly believe that. The determination to succeed plus an abundance of talent, plus playing in front of fans who want him to succeed in Cincy could be good for us. But anyways..I'm big on Golden Tate. That guy is a YAC monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FulcherVulcher33 Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 [quote name='JC' date='10 February 2010 - 05:04 PM' timestamp='1265839475' post='862535'] I like Golden Tate. Strong and physical..could become a nasty run blocker and our slot guy for the future. If not i'm all about Mardy. Mardy is going to be a good player. I firmly believe that. The determination to succeed plus an abundance of talent, plus playing in front of fans who want him to succeed in Cincy could be good for us. But anyways..I'm big on Golden Tate. That guy is a YAC monster. [/quote] He is a yac monster in college but in the nfl? I think he is to small as is gilyard to be a strong first round pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 IMO LaFell is the only other for sure 1st round pick at WR. I'd be happy if we landed any of these guys in the 1st (as far as playmakers go). Dez Bryant Brandon LaFell Jermaine Gresham Aaron Hernandez CJ Spiller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scales Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Im cool with instant offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalsdave985 Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 I'm a huge Golden Tate fan. The reasons are out there in other responses. Love his hands and toughness, plays WR like a RB. If we get him, Benn, or Lafell I really wont be angry and I just like having options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jom112 Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 I would be fine with Rejus Benn or Demaryius Thomas. Thomas I think will be flying up the draft boards from now till the draft. He shouldn't because of his questionable hands, but I think he will... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfeet4real Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 first off you never know with the draft. dez bryant could get to us at 21, crazier things have happened. but if we don't get him i like getting brandon lafell. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYCjP8cqe1w[/media] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eva4ben-gal Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 I like Lafell but I voted for Damian Williams. Even though he catches the ball with his body too much he is amazing after the catch and a great returner too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texbengal Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 I voted for Tate. Other than Bryant, the others come with too many question marks. And IMO, early-round LSU receivers don't have a great track record in the NFL... Josh Reed (average), Michael Clayton (started out great, now average), Dwayne Bowe (good), Eatly Doucet (improving, but jury still out, IMO). I think that Tate is probably the most "NFL ready" at this point - he played under Weis, who really knows offense... even though he wasn;'t a great HC. He can immediately help in the return game, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vol_Bengal Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 Of the guys listed LaFell is the "most sure" of them... But, as akili said I think he'll be a good receiver, just never great or a game changer. I guess it comes down to which route do you go... safe and "good" or risky and "boom or bust"... at this point we've had enough boom or bust at wr for a couple seasons - if we're going to go this route I want a definite every down player that we know will be there... so give me LaFell or Tate... What position do you guys think Hernandez will play in the NFL? Too small to be a complete TE, and not fast enough for a true wide receiver... H-back in the David Martin mold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 [quote name='Vol_Bengal' date='16 February 2010 - 08:41 AM' timestamp='1266327682' post='863712'] Of the guys listed LaFell is the "most sure" of them... But, as akili said I think he'll be a good receiver, just never great or a game changer. I guess it comes down to which route do you go... safe and "good" or risky and "boom or bust"... at this point we've had enough boom or bust at wr for a couple seasons - if we're going to go this route I want a definite every down player that we know will be there... so give me LaFell or Tate... What position do you guys think Hernandez will play in the NFL? Too small to be a complete TE, and not fast enough for a true wide receiver... H-back in the David Martin mold? [/quote] Hernandez = Dallas Clark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vol_Bengal Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 [quote name='Bengals1181' date='16 February 2010 - 09:24 AM' timestamp='1266330248' post='863727'] Hernandez = Dallas Clark [/quote] you think? That was the first person I tried to draw a comparison to but Hernandez seems a step faster, but a bit smaller and not as good a blocker... I can't say definitively, he has just always struck me as being a little leaner than an NFL tight end would be. Maybe he'd bulk up a little bit without losing much speed and and could fit that role quite nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sois Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 None, Sean Witherspoon is my choice, but if I have to pick WR, Golden Tate is my pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 [quote name='Vol_Bengal' date='16 February 2010 - 11:09 AM' timestamp='1266336555' post='863743'] you think? That was the first person I tried to draw a comparison to but Hernandez seems a step faster, but a bit smaller and not as good a blocker... I can't say definitively, he has just always struck me as being a little leaner than an NFL tight end would be. Maybe he'd bulk up a little bit without losing much speed and and could fit that role quite nicely. [/quote] well obviously they aren't exactly alike, and who knows if Hernandez will ever come close to Clark's production. That's just the immediate comparison that comes to mind when I watch Hernandez play. I don't see his size being an issue, just like Clark's isn't. Its about using him the right way to utilize his talents best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akiliMVP Posted February 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 [quote name='sois' date='16 February 2010 - 11:11 AM' timestamp='1266336660' post='863745'] None, Sean Witherspoon is my choice, but if I have to pick WR, Golden Tate is my pick. [/quote] So are we going to cut Rivers because he and Weatherspoon play the same position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 [quote name='akiliMVP' date='19 February 2010 - 07:43 AM' timestamp='1266583398' post='864302'] So are we going to cut Rivers because he and Weatherspoon play the same position [/quote] There are people who think Weatherspoon could play SAM. We could also move Rivers inside. If the rumors that Thomas ran a 4.38 are true, I wouldn't be upset with him in 1, but with his foot surgery we won't know until after the draft. Tate, if he runs a respectable 40 time is probably the safe route (and who I voted for). Benn probably has the most upside, but I have heard bad things about his hands and work ethic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whodeyman Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 [quote name='The Scales' date='10 February 2010 - 09:59 PM' timestamp='1265857169' post='862574'] Im cool with instant offense. [/quote] I agree best playmaker available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 I'm watching highlights of Arrelious Benn, and he just doesn't scream "1st round pick" to me. He's better than your typical college WR, but he doesn't have an elite 2nd gear speed wise, his hands are reportedly suspect, and I've seen nothing that shows he's a good route runner. He's potential, but no polish. Golden Tate, if he was taller would probably be a top 10 pick. Has the toughness and speed, but many of his touchdowns were of the jump ball variety or the "jimmy, throw it as far as you can" variety. Doesn't seem a super poslished route runner for coming out of a pro-style offense. Also, from what I've heard, and watching highlights, he's supposedly the next "prima dona" WR. We survived that with Chad, but do you really want to go down that road again? I actually don't think the Bengals will go WR in round 1. No need to get one at 21 when you can grab a Jordan Shipley, Riley Cooper, or Mardy Gilyard in the 2nd round. Not guys with as much upside, but there's not a huge dropoff from them and the late first round guys, and there a safer pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sois Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 [quote name='akiliMVP' date='19 February 2010 - 04:43 AM' timestamp='1266583398' post='864302'] So are we going to cut Rivers because he and Weatherspoon play the same position [/quote] Trade him. Rivers is too Simmonsy for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akiliMVP Posted February 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 [quote name='sois' date='19 February 2010 - 10:38 PM' timestamp='1266637087' post='864464'] Trade him. Rivers is too Simmonsy for me. [/quote] You realize how completely unrealistic that is right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akiliMVP Posted February 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 [quote name='Bengals1181' date='19 February 2010 - 10:20 PM' timestamp='1266636027' post='864460'] I'm watching highlights of Arrelious Benn, and he just doesn't scream "1st round pick" to me. He's better than your typical college WR, but he doesn't have an elite 2nd gear speed wise, his hands are reportedly suspect, and I've seen nothing that shows he's a good route runner. He's potential, but no polish. [/quote] I gotta disagree about Benn. He has elite physical skills and great size. I'm guessing he runs a 4.45 or better at 220 pounds. He wasn't asked to do much but go deep in college but he made decisive cuts in the few clips I could find of his short stuff but is still raw as a route runner. He is an absolute monster with the ball in his hands. Breaks arm tackles and tough to bring down. He is great at adjusting to bad throws, a Juice Williams specialty. Physical, tough and not afraid of contact at all. Excellent blocker. He has also been used as a running back and kick returner in college. Poor junior season largely affected by Illinois change of scheme (OC fired midseason), terrible QB play and complete lack of any other weapons on offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTBengalsFan Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 What do you think of Mike Williams, akili? Too much of a head case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akiliMVP Posted February 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 [quote name='CTBengalsFan' date='19 February 2010 - 11:30 PM' timestamp='1266640229' post='864471'] What do you think of Mike Williams, akili? Too much of a head case? [/quote] Yeah his problem is laziness work ethic and intelligence. He struggled bad in school and was suspended several times for it. Supposedly he quit because he got into some kind of trouble with the law but the details are sketchy. He knew he was going to be suspended again so he just quit. You have to wonder how he would handle being rich and responsible for learning the playbook and all the intricacies of being an NFL receiver. Has the physical skills for sure but you need a lot more than that to make it in the NFL. I would not be shocked if we took him in round 3 or 4. Seems like a MB pick. If he has grown up it could end but being a great pick. I'm guessing he has not grown up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sois Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 [quote name='akiliMVP' date='19 February 2010 - 07:53 PM' timestamp='1266638011' post='864467'] You realize how completely unrealistic that is right [/quote] Tell me, I really don't know. Salary? Length of contract? Bonus? Rivers just isn't giving me the 1st round bang I expect of a top 10 pick. Witherspoon will give that, I put my internetrep (tm) on the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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