NFL Sunday Ticket

[AmishBengalFan]

On 8/24/2023 at 6:31 PM, esjbh2 said:

Hmmmm...we should have a contest trying to guess what class Amish is taking.  I'm going with "Advanced Homemade Furniture Making 401"

 

Prior to this semester, it was private pilot ground classes.

 

 

Right now, as I'm waiting for Air Traffic Control in the Spring I'm taking American Sign Language.

 

None of you are prepared for how Amish America is about to become.

[Le Tigre]

Off topic, and a complete non sequitur:

 

Stopped at a rest area on the way home from Cleveland last week. A few cars down were a group of 4 male and 2 female Amish youths (figure around age 17 to 20). All dressed in Amish attire: straw hats, suspender pants, girls in lower hemmed dresses, etc. 

 

All were smoking like chimneys, swearing profusely, and at least half of the group intoxicated. 
 

I almost verbally yelled: 

 

RUMSPRINGA!! 

[sois]

Bengals

[alleycat]

Does anyone live in the Columbus area? Wondering what kind of coverage they have for Bengals games, particularly when the Browns are playing in the same slot. My mother lives there and I can use her spectrum cable account (father lives in cincy but cut the cord!). 
 

I used to use nfl gamepass with a vpn but they switched to DAZN which has been an unmitigated disaster (won’t work, won’t let me sign in to cancel or talk to anyone). 

[Le Tigre]

2 hours ago, alleycat said:

Does anyone live in the Columbus area? Wondering what kind of coverage they have for Bengals games, particularly when the Browns are playing in the same slot. My mother lives there and I can use her spectrum cable account (father lives in cincy but cut the cord!). 
 

I used to use nfl gamepass with a vpn but they switched to DAZN which has been an unmitigated disaster (won’t work, won’t let me sign in to cancel or talk to anyone). 

It generally follows the Cleveland Football Team, if truth be known. Columbus is and always has been North Shore-driven.

 

However, if each are in the same slot--and no other network can take one (Fox/CBS/etc)--then they have mostly been alternating them as the primary telecast. No big deal--plenty of bars and restaurants in the area which will have either or both on regardless of what is shown on the telly.  

[sparky151]

Yeah, I watched pretty much all of the Bengals games from home last season. I think I had to go out twice to get around a conflict with the clowns. The NFL is much better these days about not limiting Central Ohio to just one of the teams each week. 

[Le Tigre]

The Bengals were on a lot more last season. The schedule was such that there weren't a lot of conflicts game times and network-wise.  

[sparky151]

Yeah, now that Fox gets AFC games and CBS can show NFC games there are a lot fewer conflicts. The Fox channel in Columbus would love to have a local team every week. And Columbus is bigger than Cleveland and Cincinnati combined (just for population in the city limits) and the biggest metro area in Ohio now.

[|High School Harry|]

*** Hope this helps someone.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/bengals-vs-browns-live-stream-034522897.html

 

Bengals vs. Browns live stream, time, viewing info for Week 1

The wait for the Cincinnati Bengals regular season is over now with the Bengals heading into division rival territory against the Cleveland Browns on Sunday. Joe Burrow seems to be fully healthy and ready to go after signing an extension that makes him the highest-paid player in NFL history.

This will be the first time Deshaun Watson opens the season as the starting quarterback for the Browns, and there are questions about whether he will improve after looking very rusty last season. Joseph Ossai is the only Bengals defender currently on the injury report and did not practice. 

Last season, the Bengals split with the Browns going 1-1, losing the game in Cleveland by a score of 32-13. That was before Watson returned to the team, but Browns RB Nick Chubb rushed for 101 yards and a touchdown while WR Amari Cooper caught five passes for 131 yards and a touchdown of his own.

Cincinnati Bengals @ Cleveland Browns on Sunday, September 10 (1 p.m. ET)

TV info: CBS

 

In-market live stream: NFL+, Paramount+, YouTube TV/NFL Sunday Ticket

Radio: Cincinnati – WCKY-AM (1530), Cincinnati – WEBN-FM (102.7), Cincinnati – WLW-AM (700)

Location: FirstEnergy Stadium in Cleveland

Forecast: Cloudy, 72 degrees

Referee: Clete Blakeman

Opponent Wire site: Browns Wire

Odds: Bengals -2

[Arkansas Bengal]

NFL ‘Sunday Ticket’ expected to have major delays on YouTube TV

PUBLISHED SAT, SEP 9 20235:09 PM EDT

David K. Li

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KEY POINTS

• As thousands of football fans fill stadiums across America to see the first Sunday of NFL action, millions more will watch at home and at bars — as much as one minute later.
• That’s because images and sounds carried digitally routinely take more time to reach computer screens compared to those delivered nearly instantly by cable or satellite.

As thousands of football fans fill stadiums across America to see the first Sunday of NFL action, millions more will watch at home and at bars — as much as one minute later.

For nearly three decades, football’s most dedicated fans subscribed to the “Sunday Ticket” satellite package to tune into games not shown on traditional TV via national broadcast or local affiliates.

But since the NFL sold rights to the package to YouTube for $2 billion annually at the end of last year, those fanatics will now have to stream out-of-market games, which can come with multi-second delays.

That’s because images and sounds carried digitally routinely take more time to reach computer screens compared to those delivered nearly instantly by cable or satellite.

Jed Corenthal, chief marketing officer of Chicago-based steaming technology firm Phenix, predicts that some streaming customers could experience up to a minute of delay.

“I expect people will have some issues,” he said. “There’s going to be some unhappy people because of the latency. I’m confident in that statement, unfortunately.”

For example, fans watching the Super Bowl earlier this year on one of six leading digital providers saw the big plays between 23 seconds and 76 seconds after spectators in the stands did, according to an annual study done by Phenix of the lag between real-time action of the NFL title game versus streaming.

In a statement, Google, the parent company of YouTube, said it’s confident in its infrastructure for Sunday and urged their viewers to tune into a feature, “Stats for Nerds,” that tracks raw data on latency and bandwidth.

“Overall, YouTube TV is built on the infrastructure that powers YouTube and reliably serves billions of playback every day,” the company said. “The YouTube TV team is working on building a high-quality Sunday Ticket experience.”

 

A spokesperson, however, declined to discuss potential latency issues for “Sunday Ticket.”

Experts told NBC News that the delay “Sunday Ticket” subscribers will face on Sunday can’t be helped and is just the reality of current technology, engineers said.

Images and sounds are broken into chunks and sent to a content delivery network (CDN) which reassembles these packages for the video delivered to streaming viewers. These extra steps inevitably lead to delays compared to cable or satellite.

“Think of cable as delivering all pieces in one truck whereas streaming must send different pieces through different delivery trucks,” said Biao Chen, a professor of electrical engineering and computer science at Syracuse University.

Chip Gubera, who teaches media technology and design at the University of Missouri’s College of Engineering, compared streaming to a trick play in football where the ball is passed around sideways or backward before moving forward.

“It’s more players having to touch the ball,” Gubera said.

Latency issues would be of no concern if fans, watching traditional TV or streaming, were all taking in the action and reacting with nearly the same delay.

But in the modern era of two screens, almost all live human activity involves someone tweeting or texting about an event in real time.

And for those football fans watching the Sunday action on streaming services — but also glued to the constant discussion on social media — delays of even a few seconds can be significant.

“I think the average fan will understand this when I’m tweeting you and I’m telling you about a touchdown you haven’t yet seen,” Corenthal said. “More and more people are complaining and grasping what it means to have all of these delays.”

Paul Verna, media analyst at Insider Intelligence, recalled cutting the cord in 2018 and watching that year’s New Year’s Eve ball drop on his streaming device. He knew there’d be a delay, but seeing 2019 arrive late still took him by surprise.

“I’m watching ball drop on (streaming) TV and I’m looking at my watch and it’s already midnight, well past midnight, and the ball hasn’t dropped yet, ” Verna said. “I’m like, ‘Wow, people have rung in the new year for 45 seconds now.’ ”

He expects a measure of NFL fans on Sunday to feel like he did in the first moments of Jan. 1, 2019.

“I think some people will be taken aback,” Verna said. “Some people will experience this for the very first time and other people will be like me, who already knew this would happen, but will experience it in a way that’s new to them and they’re going to be weirded out by it.”

Mizzou’s Gubera, however, said he’s confident YouTube will deliver a not-so-tardy product on Sunday.

“They have it down. They have the infrastructure,” he said. “With what they currently have, going full throttle, I think they’ll do fine.”

The professor declined to guess how far behind the action YouTube will be on Sunday — but it better not be much more than 10 seconds slower than cable.

“How long does it take to type out a Tweet and send it?” he rhetorically asked. “Five seconds, 10 seconds? That’s when it becomes a problem, when I get the information from the second screen before I can watch it with my own eyes, that’s when it comes an issue.”

 

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/09/09/nfl-sunday-ticket-expected-to-have-major-delays-on-youtube-tv.html

 

 

[membengal]

Hell yes I am worried about that. After two decades of having it seamless on direcTV I expect this to be pretty frustrating at times. 

[|BlackJesus|]

1. Use VPN for Europe

2. Get DAZN game pass, about 200$

3. Pay with PayPal linked card so no US address involved. 

 

Best suggestion I have that might work for some of you. 

[alleycat]

1 minute ago, BlackJesus said:

1. Use VPN for Europe

2. Get DAZN game pass, about 200$

3. Pay with PayPal linked card so no US address involved. 

 

Best suggestion I have that might work for some of you. 

Which VPN provider and which country/server do you use. I have DAZN but I activated while in Guatemala unfortunately and they won't let me log in or cancel or anything unless I'm back there (VPNs for Guatemala don't work). 

 

[|BlackJesus|]

4 minutes ago, alleycat said:

Which VPN provider and which country/server do you use.

 

I would recommend ExpressVPN (12$ a month). Then sign yourself in as being in Germany.

 

Worth a shot if desperate, though I can't make guarantees based on where you are. 

[alleycat]

12 minutes ago, BlackJesus said:

 

I would recommend ExpressVPN (12$ a month). Then sign yourself in as being in Germany.

 

Worth a shot if desperate, though I can't make guarantees based on where you are. 

I have ExpressVPN. I'm in the States now, so I'll give it a shot. And call my credit card provider to reverse the previous charge. THANKS!