New Jersey Bengal Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 We need to draft a good TE this reminds me of Mike Brown saying they only pay tackles and not guards that didn't work out too good for us and not having a good TE is hurting the team also if we are in the position to draft Nick Bowers we better do so and yes we also need to draft good o linemen but we need a better evaluator at that position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 Bowers is the one, for sure. Just a matter of how bad we have to be to get him at this point. Likely need top 12 to pull it off. Doable. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Jersey Bengal Posted November 27, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, spicoli said: Bowers is the one, for sure. Just a matter of how bad we have to be to get him at this point. Likely need top 12 to pull it off. Doable. That's the good part about being bad the last few games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, New Jersey Bengal said: That's the good part about being bad the last few games Yeah I’m all good with getting the best pick possible at this point. Golden opportunity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 Don't need a TE necessarily. Just need more weapons. Hudson can start-Mixon can start-Boyd can start but they can't all start. Their all meh players at this point and you need more dynamic players. Don't need them all replaced but rolling with them all each week makes it easy on the defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texbengal Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 Irv Smith surely isn’t the answer, and an upgrade is needed. Sample is solid as a #2 if they decide to keep him, but they need another guy to start. I like Hudson but he’s one-dimensional and they use the TE to block a lot. Wilcox is meh, OK as a #3. That said, you can find guys after the 1st round that can be that guy. Mark Andrews (3), Pat Freiermuth (2), Jake Ferguson (4), Travis Kelce (3), George Kittle (5), Sam LaPorta (2)… there are a number of guys out there who are doing it. Dallas has both Ferguson and Schoonmaker, and they let former starter Schultz (4th, another example) go, and he’s now starting in Houston. So they don’t need to go big in round one - there are guys out there that can be had - who are/can be productive - on day 2 or 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 TE is a luxury in this offense, we run 3 WR sets, I would be surprised if that changes. All that is needed is a guy who can find the soft spots in the D and catch reliability. We do not need a 1st round TE. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 The best TE prospect in the history of college football is coming out this year ... Brock Bowers. The problem is he could go in the top 5 before the Bengals pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 Here are additional highlights of Bowers just beasting people from this season ... He's like if you combined the powers of Kelce, Kittle, and Mark Andrews into the same player. And then gave him the cat-like agility of Myles Garrett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 The "B" in Jamie_B stands for Bowers and I STILL see this as a luxury pick and prefer we get a tackle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Jamie_B said: The "B" in Jamie_B stands for Bowers You could get a Bowers jersey and not even have to pay for the personalization. ... You're clearly not thinking this through. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, BlackJesus said: You could get a Bowers jersey and not even have to pay for the personalization. ... You're clearly not thinking this through. Yup Naw, I totally am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: see this as a luxury pick and prefer we get a tackle. How could the best TE in Bengals history be a luxury pick? And I think "TE" actually doesn't do Bowers justice, he's basically a TE, WR, FB, and HB, who hits like a LB and has the strength of a DE, but the speed of a SS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 Just now, BlackJesus said: How could the best TE in Bengals history be a luxury pick? And I think "TE" actually doesn't do Bowers justice, he's basically a TE, WR, FB, and HB, who hits like a LB and has the strength of a DE, but the speed of a SS. Can he block and protect Joe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 9 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: Can he block and protect Joe? There's 2 ways to protect a QB ... Give him good OL blockers who can hold off blitzers ... Or give him weapons so that defenses are afraid to even bring blitzers, lessening the load on your OL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, BlackJesus said: There's 2 ways to protect a QB ... Give him good OL blockers who can hold off blitzers ... Or give him weapons so that defenses are afraid to even being blitzers, lessening the load on your OL. When Myles Garret and TJ Watt are in your division, you don't necessarily have to blitz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: When Myles Garret and TJ Watt are in your division, you don't necessarily have to blitz. True. But there are also only around 5 men on earth capable of consistently blocking them 1 on 1. So the chances of finding another one isn't high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Jersey Bengal Posted November 27, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 3 hours ago, Jamie_B said: TE is a luxury in this offense, we run 3 WR sets, I would be surprised if that changes. All that is needed is a guy who can find the soft spots in the D and catch reliability. We do not need a 1st round TE. I am not necessarily a first round te but just draft a decent one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 Just now, New Jersey Bengal said: I am not necessarily a first round te but just draft a decent one Yeah I'm not opposed to it and would have been happy taking Mayer this offseason over Murphy, but at this point I think there are bigger needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Jersey Bengal Posted November 27, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 Just now, Jamie_B said: Yeah I'm not opposed to it and would have been happy taking Mayer this offseason over Murphy, but at this point I think there are bigger needs. I agree I liked Mayer also but I think Murphy will be good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 Just now, New Jersey Bengal said: I agree I liked Mayer also but I think Murphy will be good He started to show yesterday, hopefully a sign of things to come. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Jersey Bengal Posted November 27, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Jamie_B said: He started to show yesterday, hopefully a sign of things to come. I think he'll be good good character which has been a sign during the Taylor era so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatternMaster Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 50 minutes ago, BlackJesus said: How could the best TE in Bengals history be a luxury pick? And I think "TE" actually doesn't do Bowers justice, he's basically a TE, WR, FB, and HB, who hits like a LB and has the strength of a DE, but the speed of a SS. lol...He's SuperMan... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, PatternMaster said: lol...He's SuperMan... The Second Coming of the guy who was drafted right before Ja'Marr. You remember him, don't you? Ummmm.... Frankly, I am down for draft a good *anything* as long as he can come in, start immediately and make a positive impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 13 minutes ago, High School Harry said: The Second Coming of the guy who was drafted right before Ja'Marr. You remember him, don't you? Ummmm.... Frankly, I am down for draft a good *anything* as long as he can come in, start immediately and make a positive impact. Ultimately thats what we all want, I just hoping we can get a Tackle first. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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