JBandJoeyV Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 Mike Nolan will get fired for San Fran, hire him as our DC. Mike Martz is getting fired in Detroit, hire him as our OC. If we do fire our coordinators who would you guys like to see us hire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-GoBengals- Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 bres replacement is already here, and unless brats getting a promotion somewhere he sure as fuck isnt leaving.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 I'd be shocked if either of those guys were fired. (Nolan & Martz) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBandJoeyV Posted December 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 [quote name='GoBengals' post='616021' date='Dec 30 2007, 07:51 PM']bres replacement is already here, and unless brats getting a promotion somewhere he sure as fuck isnt leaving..[/quote] Who is Bres replacement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBandJoeyV Posted December 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 [quote name='Jamie_B' post='616022' date='Dec 30 2007, 07:52 PM']I'd be shocked if either of those guys were fired. (Nolan & Martz)[/quote] [url="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3173002"]http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3173002[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigris Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 [quote name='Jamie_B' post='616022' date='Dec 30 2007, 07:52 PM']I'd be shocked if either of those guys were fired. (Nolan & Martz)[/quote] martz is all but gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 [quote name='CJandRudiJ' post='616026' date='Dec 30 2007, 07:54 PM'][url="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3173002"]http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3173002[/url][/quote] WOW Dear God I hope not, he runs the ball even less than Brat does and he has a good back in Ducket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalRep85-9 Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 [quote name='CJandRudiJ' post='616024' date='Dec 30 2007, 07:53 PM']Who is Bres replacement?[/quote] Henderson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBandJoeyV Posted December 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 [quote name='Jamie_B' post='616028' date='Dec 30 2007, 07:55 PM']WOW Dear God I hope not, he runs the ball even less than Brat does and he has a good back in Ducket.[/quote] Thats what I like the here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 [quote name='CJandRudiJ' post='616031' date='Dec 30 2007, 07:57 PM']Thats what I like the here! [/quote] You lost me. You do want him or dont want him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBandJoeyV Posted December 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 [quote name='Jamie_B' post='616032' date='Dec 30 2007, 07:58 PM']You lost me. You do want him or dont want him?[/quote] I meant I like guys that love to throw the ball...now whether that helps us win or not Im not entirely sure. I think with an offense like our the pass opens up the run unlike normal offenses where the run opens up the pass. Thats just the fan in me though that wants to see carson throw for 400 yards and 4 tds a game, I think that is a lot more exciting then watching a rb run for 200 yards. [quote name='BengalRep85-9' post='616029' date='Dec 30 2007, 07:55 PM']Henderson.[/quote] Sorry I must have missed something, who is henderson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 [quote name='CJandRudiJ' post='616034' date='Dec 30 2007, 08:01 PM']I meant I like guys that love to throw the ball...now whether that helps us win or not Im not entirely sure. I think with an offense like our the pass opens up the run unlike normal offenses where the run opens up the pass. Thats just the fan in me though that wants to see carson throw for 400 yards and 4 tds a game, I think that is a lot more exciting then watching a rb run for 200 yards.[/quote] We already have a guy that likes to throw the ball. People complain that we dont run enough and we'd get even less of it with Martz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBandJoeyV Posted December 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 [quote name='Jamie_B' post='616036' date='Dec 30 2007, 08:02 PM']We already have a guy that likes to throw the ball. People complain that we dont run enough and we'd get even less of it with Martz.[/quote] Ive just never really liked brats play calling. I feel like he will throw the ball 5 times in a row one drive, then on the next drive run the ball up the gut three times and get a three and out, like one drive today. I want someone who mixes the calls up better then brat does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalsNYC Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 If we are to replace Brat, which I'm not opposed to I would suggest a promotion from within....Zampese. He's going to land an O Coordinator job within another year or so, and he knows CP better than anyone. He would certainly inject some life into the offense. He gets my vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 [quote name='Jamie_B' post='616028' date='Dec 30 2007, 07:55 PM']WOW Dear God I hope not, he runs the ball even less than Brat does and he has a good back in Ducket.[/quote] Detroit's lack of a running game had more to do with the o-line than the scheme from what I have seen. Their o-line sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Dan_Bengals_FL- Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 Brat is not going anywhere, unless he chooses to, so get used to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 [quote name='Bengals1181' post='616050' date='Dec 30 2007, 08:15 PM']Detroit's lack of a running game had more to do with the o-line than the scheme from what I have seen. Their o-line sucks.[/quote] As did the Bengals albeit due to injuries ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texbengal Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 [quote name='BengalsNYC' post='616046' date='Dec 30 2007, 07:09 PM']If we are to replace Brat, which I'm not opposed to I would suggest a promotion from within....Zampese. He's going to land an O Coordinator job within another year or so, and he knows CP better than anyone. He would certainly inject some life into the offense. He gets my vote.[/quote] I'd take that, too... or Hue Jackson, if/when he comes available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Dan_Bengals_FL- Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 [quote name='texbengal' post='616055' date='Dec 30 2007, 08:17 PM']I'd take that, too... or Hue Jackson, if/when he comes available.[/quote] Hue Jackson is one of those guys that will make a much better coach than coordinator. I think coaching is much more suited to his skill set. As an OC he isn't very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 [quote name='BengalsNYC' post='616046' date='Dec 30 2007, 08:09 PM']If we are to replace Brat, which I'm not opposed to I would suggest a promotion from within....Zampese. He's going to land an O Coordinator job within another year or so, and he knows CP better than anyone. He would certainly inject some life into the offense. He gets my vote.[/quote] How do you know he'd "inject" life into the offense? How do you know he'll even be as good as Brat for that matter? He's never been an OC.....we have NO IDEA what his offensive philosophies are.... I'd counter his 'knowing" Palmer by saying that Carson was at his best when Kitna was here rather than Zampese coaching him... Dont judge Zampese because of his name and I think thats the case with alot of fans.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 if we were to make an OC change, now would be the time as it sounds like we are scrapping the playbook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-GoBengals- Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 [quote name='CJandRudiJ' post='616024' date='Dec 30 2007, 07:53 PM']Who is Bres replacement?[/quote] henderson [quote name='BengalRep85-9' post='616029' date='Dec 30 2007, 07:55 PM']Henderson.[/quote] yea [quote name='CJandRudiJ' post='616034' date='Dec 30 2007, 08:01 PM']Sorry I must have missed something, who is henderson?[/quote] DC from jets, been here "observing" for weeks, like i think bres "observed" for frasier, and bres contract is up now so he doesnt need to be fired, he already doesnt work here basically... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 [quote name='CJandRudiJ' post='616038' date='Dec 30 2007, 08:05 PM']Ive just never really liked brats play calling. I feel like he will throw the ball 5 times in a row one drive, then on the next drive run the ball up the gut three times and get a three and out, like one drive today. I want someone who mixes the calls up better then brat does.[/quote] Ok and you'd hate Martz even more, all he does in throw it (figurativly). He had Ducket who started 1 game but had a 5.2 Avg for 335 Tatum Bell who started 5 games and had a 4.1 Avg for 182 yards (http://www.nfl.com/players/tatumbell/profile?id=BEL598152) and Kevin Jones who started 3.8 for 531 between the three of them they ran the ball for 262 times (they also had some scrubs run the ball too, but not much) for a total of 1048 (what your starting RB should get at least even in a passing O) the bengals top 3 of Rudi, Watson and Dorsey Rudi had a 2.9 YPC for 497 yards Watson had a 4.3 YPC for 763 yards Dorsey had a 8.7 YPC for 183 yards Betwen the bengals top 3 they had 1443 yards running the ball 369 times It would be a mistake to bring in Martz who ran the ball less and had better talent from a YPC point of view. (at least in his top 2 RBs, but as little as dorsey ran I'd say his average would go down some if he got the ball more) Refrence: Kevin Jones - [url="http://www.nfl.com/players/kevinjones/profile?id=JON520515"]http://www.nfl.com/players/kevinjones/profile?id=JON520515[/url] TJ Ducket - [url="http://www.nfl.com/players/t.j.duckett/profile?id=DUC245183"]http://www.nfl.com/players/t.j.duckett/profile?id=DUC245183[/url] Tatum Bell - [url="http://www.nfl.com/players/tatumbell/profile?id=BEL598152"]http://www.nfl.com/players/tatumbell/profile?id=BEL598152[/url] Rudi Johnson - [url="http://www.nfl.com/players/rudijohnson/profile?id=JOH653266"]http://www.nfl.com/players/rudijohnson/profile?id=JOH653266[/url] Kenny Watson - [url="http://www.nfl.com/players/kennywatson/profile?id=WAT450800"]http://www.nfl.com/players/kennywatson/profile?id=WAT450800[/url] DeDe Dorsey - [url="http://www.nfl.com/players/dededorsey/profile?id=DOR528860"]http://www.nfl.com/players/dededorsey/profile?id=DOR528860[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 [quote name='Bengals1181' post='616063' date='Dec 30 2007, 08:26 PM']if we were to make an OC change, now would be the time as it sounds like we are scrapping the playbook.[/quote] I didnt catch the news on scrapping the playbook.. could you expand on that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 [quote name='BengalsNYC' post='616046' date='Dec 30 2007, 08:09 PM']If we are to replace Brat, which I'm not opposed to I would suggest a promotion from within....Zampese. He's going to land an O Coordinator job within another year or so, and he knows CP better than anyone. He would certainly inject some life into the offense. He gets my vote.[/quote] Isnt it Zamp's job to have Carson ready? Why would he be deserving of a promotion after the season Carson had? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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