JBandJoeyV Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 LINK: [url="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3274297"]http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3274297[/url] [quote]Sources: Bengals send picks to Jets for Robertson By Michael Smith ESPN.com (Archive) Updated: March 3, 2008, 12:42 AM ET Comment Email Print The New York Jets and Cincinnati Bengals have agreed to terms on a trade that would send defensive tackle Dewayne Robertson to the Bengals in exchange for Cincinnati's fourth- and fifth-round picks (Nos. 114 and 151) in the upcoming draft, according to league sources. Robertson Completion of the trade is contingent upon Robertson agreeing to a new contract -- he had two years remaining on his rookie deal with New York -- and passing a physical, though neither is expected to hold up the deal, which could be finalized as early as Monday. On Friday the Bengals had a deal in place to acquire Lions defensive tackle Shaun Rogers in exchange for third- and fifth-round picks, but that trade fell through when it did not meet league approval. The Lions then traded Rogers to the Bengals' in-state rivals, the Browns, for a third rounder and cornerback Leigh Bodden. In Robertson, 26, the Bengals, hoping to improve a defense that has ranked higher than 27th in yards allowed once in the past five seasons, will get a player who isn't as big or as dominant as Rogers has been in his first five season. But Robertson is just as hungry for a fresh start. Robertson, 6-foot-1 and 310 pounds, should be a better fit as a penetrating "3-technique" tackle in Cincinnati's 4-3 scheme than he had been in the Jets' 3-4 the past two years. In an interesting twist, the Bengals will have on their roster two of the first four picks in the 2003 draft. In fact, Cincinnati selected quarterback Carson Palmer first overall that year from among a group of four finalists that also included Robertson, whom Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis (along with many other personnel evaluators) is said to have loved coming out of the University of Kentucky. Robertson will be the fifth interior defensive lineman to be dealt for at least one draft pick since Friday, joining Corey Williams (Packers to Browns), Kris Jenkins (Panthers to Jets), Marcus Stroud (Jaguars to Bills) and Rogers. Some do not consider the 2008 draft to be deep at the defensive tackle position, thus several teams have decided to instead spend pick on a veteran. Michael Smith is a senior writer for ESPN.com.[/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starkesn Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Well, I'll believe it when I see it. Someone keep BJ off the board for a day or two till this thing is final. I'm not sure he will be a huge addition, but he is worth only spending a 4th and 5th on him. Better than nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CantStop85. Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 So we got a younger DT for less. Amazing how things work out sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTBengalsFan Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Yay, maybe some crying can stop. WE GOT A DT FOR LESS, WHO'S YOUNGER, AND DOESN'T HAVE STRIPPERGATE COMING 'ROUND THE BEND. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akiliMVP Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 I'm going to wait until morning to get excited... Fuck it I'll count my chickens before they hatch. GREAT GREAT GREAT move. Not only do we get a great interior lineman, we get to keep both 3rd round picks (assuming we get a comp pick for Steinbach) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal.BengalFan Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Normally I would be doing back flips and running around in circles after seeing this news, But for some reason im not going to celebrate till I see Robertson wearing a #63 or #95 jersey in black and orange. Or maybe because its late at night and it has not really hit me yet. Considering injuries ,age and production I think we got the 2nd best DT after Rogers. 1. Rogers 2. Robertson 3. Williams 4. Stroud 5. Jackson 6.Jenkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-GoBengals- Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 ill be excited when he plays well... wonder whos leaving.. jt or myers... cap says JT, ability to actually play a whole game or season says myers... shall be interesting.. i know nothing of this robertson fellow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBZ Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 I absolutely love that the guy is only 26 - and he is absolutely an upgrade. I hope they are able to put this one to bed very quickly. BZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khatmandude Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Yippee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyIrishman5 Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 [quote name='GoBengals' post='638868' date='Mar 3 2008, 01:17 AM']ill be excited when he plays well... wonder whos leaving.. jt or myers... cap says JT, ability to actually play a whole game or season says myers... shall be interesting.. i know nothing of this robertson fellow...[/quote] [b]#63 Dewayne Robertson | DT [/b] 2007 Scouting Report - Scouts Inc. Grade: 68 | Key Alert: None Comment: Robertson is a short, low, center of gravity type player with good athleticism and instincts. He plays the nose tackle position in the newly installed Eric Mangini defense and does not have the ideal size to hold the point. He is tough and competitive but is not the space eater that normally plays this position in the 3-4 defensive scheme. He feels pad pressure well and can find the level of the ball effectively. Robertson can hold the point versus single blocks but is not great to anchor versus the double team. Robertson is best when on the move using his quickness and agility. He is most effective to stunt and penetrate gaps as he does not play stout and can get driven out of lanes. He has decent hand use to leverage blockers but is inconsistent to disengage effectively. Robertson does not get much push as an interior bull rusher and needs to pressure the quarterback with quickness and effort. Robertson marks up solid numbers every season and has been a durable player with 61 starts in four seasons. He plays with a great motor and has some tools as a defensive lineman but may not fit the pure nose tackle stature in the 3-4 defensive scheme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 This is certainly better than not making a move. Robertson is athletic for a big man and will work better in a 4-3. If we're staying in a 4-3, then signing Odom makes more sense. I'd rather have a healthy, motivated Rogers, Jenkins, or Stroud but Robertson is better than Thornton or Peko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akiliMVP Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 This move pretty much solidifies the fact we aren't switching to a 3-4. I told ya so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Montana Bengal| Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 [quote name='akiliMVP' post='638875' date='Mar 2 2008, 11:28 PM']This move pretty much solidifies the fact we aren't switching to a 3-4. I told ya so [/quote] You deserve a gold star...oh wait you have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kochman Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Great trade as long as everything goes through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldcat Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 [quote name='GoBengals' post='638868' date='Mar 2 2008, 10:17 PM']ill be excited when he plays well... wonder whos leaving.. jt or myers... cap says JT, ability to actually play a whole game or season says myers... shall be interesting.. i know nothing of this robertson fellow...[/quote] Does anyone have to leave? Couldnt Thornton move to part of the DE rotation? I just figure that if the Bengals were sure Thornton would be going, they would have released him already as a courtesy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-GoBengals- Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 [quote name='Oldcat' post='638880' date='Mar 3 2008, 01:34 AM']Does anyone have to leave? Couldnt Thornton move to part of the DE rotation? I just figure that if the Bengals were sure Thornton would be going, they would have released him already as a courtesy.[/quote] i dunno, i havent checked the roster, i guess brob is gone, so i guess he fills that empty spot and jt becomes the new brob tweener? makes sense... and vetaran depth is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTA513 Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Sounds like a good deal and it only cost the Bengals a 4th & 5th round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bengal Migration| Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 [quote name='CrazyIrishman5' post='638872' date='Mar 3 2008, 05:26 PM'][b]#63 Dewayne Robertson | DT [/b] 2007 Scouting Report - Scouts Inc. Grade: 68 | Key Alert: None Comment: Robertson is a short, low, center of gravity type player with good athleticism and instincts. He plays the nose tackle position in the newly installed Eric Mangini defense and does not have the ideal size to hold the point. He is tough and competitive but is not the space eater that normally plays this position in the 3-4 defensive scheme. He feels pad pressure well and can find the level of the ball effectively. Robertson can hold the point versus single blocks but is not great to anchor versus the double team. Robertson is best when on the move using his quickness and agility. He is most effective to stunt and penetrate gaps as he does not play stout and can get driven out of lanes. He has decent hand use to leverage blockers but is inconsistent to disengage effectively. Robertson does not get much push as an interior bull rusher and needs to pressure the quarterback with quickness and effort. Robertson marks up solid numbers every season and has been a durable player with 61 starts in four seasons. He plays with a great motor and has some tools as a defensive lineman but may not fit the pure nose tackle stature in the 3-4 defensive scheme[/quote] Anyone else here think this report makes him sound like a younger JT? (not sure if that's good or not...) If Marvin was truly considering this guy with the #1 pick when they chose Carson instead, that's enough for me to be excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bengal Migration| Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 One more reason to like Robertson... 2.5 sacks against Pissburgh this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkansas Bengal Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 [quote name='GoBengals' post='638881' date='Mar 3 2008, 01:36 AM']i dunno, i havent checked the roster, i guess brob is gone, so i guess he fills that empty spot and jt becomes the new brob tweener? makes sense... and vetaran depth is good.[/quote] Sound like a nice pickup, but nothing to get overly excited about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldcat Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Well, according to another site he, like Vilma, was very highly thought of when they ran a 4-3 Its Mangini and the 3-4 that put him on the outs there, not his play per se. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer_Rice Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Watched him play at UK quite a bit. Quick and mobile, important part of beginning to turn UK squad around, too. Looked up to as a leader then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishBengal Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 I read somewhre he is a consistent disruptive force in the interior. This could be a blessing in disguise after the Rogers fiasco. [b]Also, this guy was a top 4 draft pick (3 spots after Carson) in 2003, who Marvin Lewis had apparently considered taking him if he didn't take Carson. ML was high on this guy back then, and then finally gets him anyway. So that's ok with me.[/b] Some people on this thread are still winging about the fact they didn't get Rogers. Maybe this is destiny, and Rogers wasn't mean't to be a good fit here - going the same way as Odell and Henry, who would've potientially followed him on the same path anyway. IMO we got the best guy out there in terms of durability, quality, experience, skills and character to fit our D. This guy could end up being better than Rogers ever would have been for us. Will some people here stop the whole moaning 'oh he's only a light upgrade, wanted Rogers more' shit. Well, lets hope the front office do their homework and don't fuck this trade up. Better still, let's get Odom and McCree in the fold aswell, and get Ellis in the first round. ODOM - ROBERTSON - ELLIS - GEATHERS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 [quote name='Montana Bengal' post='638878' date='Mar 3 2008, 01:33 AM']You deserve a gold star...oh wait you have one.[/quote] After what happened Friday, I'm not getting excited until the press conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who Dey Time Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Amazing how dacow hasn't made his way into a thread with good news. Now let's see if the can bring in Odom and, all of a sudden, you have upgraded your line very quickly and also given yourself many more options come draft day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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