scharm Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 I would take anything for Shipley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigris Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 Judging him while running with the third team in preseason isn't really fair IMO. How about Marvin Jones showing up again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 Given more time, I think Ship will be fine. The problem is we are loaded with young talent at WR and time is NOT on Ship's side. Hawk is simply a better player at this point and does Teams stuff as well. Even if Ship were to get back to 100% by week 4, does he push Hawkins out of the spot? I think not. The trade would be nice but I have to think Dallas is desperate to get a guy who can play NOW into camp ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 [quote name='SF2' timestamp='1345208814' post='1147823'] Given more time, I think Ship will be fine. The problem is we are loaded with young talent at WR and time is NOT on Ship's side. Hawk is simply a better player at this point and does Teams stuff as well. Even if Ship were to get back to 100% by week 4, does he push Hawkins out of the spot? I think not. The trade would be nice but I have to think Dallas is desperate to get a guy who can play NOW into camp ASAP. [/quote] x2. I think he sticks if he's near 100% by the end of the preseason, but that's not looking likely at this point. If another team thinks he will, and doesn't have a high waiver wire claim, I could definitely see them giving a late pick. I also think the Bengals will be looking to swap him, or sims or whalen, for a backup interior olineman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 [quote name='Bengals1181' timestamp='1345209343' post='1147827'] x2. I think he sticks if he's near 100% by the end of the preseason, but that's not looking likely at this point. If another team thinks he will, and doesn't have a high waiver wire claim, I could definitely see them giving a late pick. I also think the Bengals will be looking to swap him, or sims or whalen, for a backup interior olineman. [/quote] Gotta agree. I think the run blocking is more the issue than the RBs we currently have. An interior lineman is certainly more of a need at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 [quote name='SF2' timestamp='1345209630' post='1147832'] Gotta agree. I think the run blocking is more the issue than the RBs we currently have. An interior lineman is certainly more of a need at this point. [/quote] they talked to Jason Brown the other day but he's decided to retire. I think we'll definitely see someone brought in before the start of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 1181, in a hypothetical world where shipley is "near 100%" by the end of camp, who are you cutting to make room for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatcat Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 If Shipley doesn't make the 53, I sure hope they trade him even if its for a bag of chips to perhaps a team like Miami. I could see Cleveland easily picking him up off waivers. I much rather him not land on a division foe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 [quote name='membengal' timestamp='1345210478' post='1147840'] 1181, in a hypothetical world where shipley is "near 100%" by the end of camp, who are you cutting to make room for him? [/quote] dunno at this point. I'd say it is Shipley vs Jones for the last spot, but Jones is winning that battle. If Shipley DOES come on and they choose to go with 7 (which I don't think they will), I don't have the slightest clue. With Sanu and Jones being able to play both inside and outside, plus Charles being basically a big WR, I don't see them keeping a 7th WR at the expense of another position. I'm a big Shipley fan, but that's why I'm kind of on the "trade him if you can" bandwagon. I just don't see him making the team unless he lights up the next 2 weeks. Both Dallas and Miami need WR's and are far enough down the waiver wire claim where they may give you a late draft pick. The jags could be interested as well, but are in a little better waiver wire claim spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 [quote name='membengal' timestamp='1345210478' post='1147840'] 1181, in a hypothetical world where shipley is "near 100%" by the end of camp, who are you cutting to make room for him? [/quote] Lets just be honest, Hawkins has won that spot. Do you keep Ship as a backup and get rid of a guy who may have to fill in at multiple positions if the case arose? I would think you keep a guy who can step into the slot, if needed AND can be a wideout. Sure, Ship would probably be a better slot but backups need to be able to fill more than one need in case of injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigris Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 Yesterday they said something about Marvin not knowing whether or not to keep six or seven with this group of WRs. Green Tate Binns Hawkins Sanu Jones then Shipley? Has to be the youngest WR group on the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigris Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 And Shipley isn't going to light anything up in the next two weeks playing with third stringers. I would call plays designed for Shipley and to get him the ball. Get him a screen or something... see what he does. Then line him up outside and run a slant and a streak. But maybe the coaches don't care about him??? Not that he's worthless but maybe they're so content and happy with the group that is actually playing 1st team snaps and Hawkins in the slot that Shipley is actually looked at as a 3rd string WR now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VBurfict55 Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 [quote name='Tigris' timestamp='1345217040' post='1147897'] Yesterday they said something about Marvin not knowing whether or not to keep six or seven with this group of WRs. Green Tate Binns Hawkins Sanu Jones then Shipley? Has to be the youngest WR group on the league. [/quote] I believe that sounds right and they did say that about Marvin, but I think we will end up with 6 WRs and 3 TEs right now. I could see 7 and 2, but Charles hasn't gotten a chance to prove himself and Lee keeps making plays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 [quote name='BScott28' timestamp='1345217417' post='1147899'] I believe that sounds right and they did say that about Marvin, but I think we will end up with 6 WRs and 3 TEs right now. I could see 7 and 2, but Charles hasn't gotten a chance to prove himself and Lee keeps making plays [/quote] yea with the Bengals having a strong TE corp, it might mean them seeing Shipley's ability across the middle as a luxury (also factoring in Sanu and Jones can play the slot). 2 TE sets aren't working in Shipley's favor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texbengal Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 [quote name='Tigris' timestamp='1345217040' post='1147897'] Yesterday they said something about Marvin not knowing whether or not to keep six or seven with this group of WRs. Green Tate Binns Hawkins Sanu Jones then Shipley? Has to be the youngest WR group on the league. [/quote] I know we all tend to forget Whalen, but I like him. Even if there's no spot here, he can play in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeb Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 Shipley is a quality WR and with the right system for him to go to, ...it's possible you could pull off a trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VBurfict55 Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 [quote name='texbengal' timestamp='1345218487' post='1147902'] I know we all tend to forget Whalen, but I like him. Even if there's no spot here, he can play in the NFL. [/quote] I like Whalen too, but seems he just won't be able to stick in Cincinnati Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueridge Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 Shipley proved himself in the slot as a rookie. He's coming back and should be fine. Felix Jones has been nothing but a disappointment. Stupid trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 Shipley has been waived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 Wonder if we are going to try to get him onto IR if he clears waivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 [quote name='JC' timestamp='1345229330' post='1147970'] Wonder if we are going to try to get him onto IR if he clears waivers. [/quote] don't think it works that way. Would just put him straight on IR, not cut him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VBurfict55 Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 [quote name='Bengals1181' timestamp='1345230163' post='1147983'] don't think it works that way. Would just put him straight on IR, not cut him. [/quote] Isn't that how Ballard ended up on the Patriots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 [quote name='BScott28' timestamp='1345232056' post='1148007'] Isn't that how Ballard ended up on the Patriots? [/quote] not quite. They tried to put Ballard on the waived/injured reserve list and was claimed. Shipley was just flat out cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldcat Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 [quote name='Bengals1181' timestamp='1345230163' post='1147983'] don't think it works that way. Would just put him straight on IR, not cut him. [/quote] I believe that can't be done until the cutdown next week. To put him on IR now you'd have to expose him to waivers. Since they did cut him, I don't see them IR-ing him - and since he is cleared to play there's no injury to IR him for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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