MichaelWeston Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 So far I have heard WR Tavon Austin DE Dion Jordan FS Eric Reid LB Manti Teo LB Jarvis Jones DE Sam Montgomery RB Giorvanni Bernard LB Alec Ogletree DE Ezekiel Ansah, BYU FS Kenny Vaccaro, Texas DE Alex Okafor, Texas DE Barkevious Mingo, LSU S Matt Elam, Florida Some wont fall to us. Some I personally don't want but who else should I add to the list as options here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akiliMVP Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 DE Ezekiel Ansah, BYU FS Kenny Vaccaro, Texas DE Alex Okafor, Texas DE Barkevious Mingo, LSU S Matt Elam, Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 still don't see dion jordan as a first rounder. Not convinced Ansah is either. Could see both sitting there at the oakland pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akiliMVP Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 [quote name='Bengals1181' timestamp='1356962783' post='1201718'] still don't see dion jordan as a first rounder. Not convinced Ansah is either. Could see both sitting there at the oakland pick. [/quote] I think Jordan will for sure. Good size and a ridiculous athlete. Ansah's stock is very dependent on workouts/drills at the combine and pro day. If he proves too much of a project he'll drop to the 2nd. His size and athleticism are Mario Williams-esque. His numbers aren't awesome but BYU didn't use him as an edge rusher very often. Not a stretch to say either is a late first rounder at this point. A lot can change between now and the draft though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 [quote name='akiliMVP' timestamp='1356963101' post='1201725'] I think Jordan will for sure. Good size and a ridiculous athlete. Ansah's stock is very dependent on workouts/drills at the combine and pro day. If he proves too much of a project he'll drop to the 2nd. His size and athleticism are Mario Williams-esque. His numbers aren't awesome but BYU didn't use him as an edge rusher very often. Not a stretch to say either is a late first rounder at this point. A lot can change between now and the draft though. [/quote] definitely think Ansah has the better chance, just think his extreme rawness may hurt him. IMO the Bengals shouldn't go DE in the first round, or maybe even second unless guys walk. I'd certainly re-sign MJ and Gillberry, and wouldn't mind geathers either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted December 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 [quote name='Bengals1181' timestamp='1356963771' post='1201730'] definitely think Ansah has the better chance, just think his extreme rawness may hurt him. IMO the Bengals shouldn't go DE in the first round, or maybe even second unless guys walk. I'd certainly re-sign MJ and Gillberry, and wouldn't mind geathers either. [/quote] I match your thinking. DE's in round 1 bust the most, this is a deep draft and we already have talent producing. Seems like an odd position to target. I wouldn't touch Ansah or anyone with the "Project" label until our 3rd pick. I personally would likely only take a LB or S or WR in round 1. Manti Teo is my number 1 option. Jarvis Jones number 2. I think they are both well gone....so now it's time to start looking into Ogletree for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akiliMVP Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 I'd much rather re-sign MJ and Gilberry too but if we don't DE is #1 need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted December 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 [quote name='akiliMVP' timestamp='1356964861' post='1201743'] I'd much rather re-sign MJ and Gilberry too but if we don't DE is #1 need. [/quote] I can somewhat see that with MJ, but we don't have a #1 pick on that line and had the #1 sack team in the league this year. I don't think we suddenly go away from that. Gilberry was a scrap heap guy and produced. Rucker produced. Fanene produced. I think it's the rotation and DT play more than anything. Plus I simply would almost never take a DE in round 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akiliMVP Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 I'm warming to Matt Elam in the 1st...Ogletree and Elam is a wet dream first 2 picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akiliMVP Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 Or Elam + Van Noy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 Alex Okafor would be the one DE I'd take in the first. Can you imagine an Okafor/Dunlap tandem at LDE? Or a 3rd down line of Okafor-Dunlap-Atkins-MJ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akiliMVP Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 [quote name='Bengals1181' timestamp='1356967029' post='1201774'] Alex Okafor would be the one DE I'd take in the first. Can you imagine an Okafor/Dunlap tandem at LDE? Or a 3rd down line of Okafor-Dunlap-Atkins-MJ? [/quote] he was ridiculous the other night. 4.5 sacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 A lot depends on coaching changes and free agency but right now we have bigger needs on offense than defense. While we need better QB play, Dalton's not going anywhere. There aren't any RBs worth a first rounder this year so we should reserve a 2nd or 3rd rounder for RB. We might need a RT if Andre leaves. There are some tackles who merit the first round but we're better off keeping Andre and MJ if possible. I'd guess WR is the position we're most likely to use the first rounder on at this point. I like Sanu, Jones, and Hawkins but it's not as if they can't be upgraded from. I'd really love it if Teo or Jones was around when we picked but that's probably not realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texbengal Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 [quote name='akiliMVP' timestamp='1356967573' post='1201779'] he was ridiculous the other night. 4.5 sacks [/quote] Yes but the guy he was up against was just awful. Okafor picked a good time for his best game. [quote name='akiliMVP' timestamp='1356966288' post='1201762'] Or Elam + Van Noy [/quote] Van Noy is staying in school. Helluva player though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 Continue to be unimpressed with ogletree. Speed and athleticism means nothing if you do nothing with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 [quote name='Bengals1181' timestamp='1357072497' post='1202234'] Continue to be unimpressed with ogletree. Speed and athleticism means nothing if you do nothing with it. [/quote] Honestly, no one on the Georgia defense is impressing me right now. They look a little flat. Nebraska is a couple of big plays by Georgia from dominating this game. I wouldn't judge him on this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted January 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 Yeah Ogletree is just blaw. Was looking for a place to ppst that. On paper he seems like a stud. The LSU guy looked way better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akiliMVP Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 Ogletree had 13 tackles, 3 tackles for loss and 1 sack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akiliMVP Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 [img]http://cdn0.sbnation.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/5906727/clowney.0_standard_709.0.gif[/img] Clowney isn't draft eligible but holy shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted January 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 [quote name='akiliMVP' timestamp='1357077420' post='1202268'] Ogletree had 13 tackles, 3 tackles for loss and 1 sack [/quote] I watched him the entire game and he just looked a step slow reacting to everything. Those numbers are nice though for sure. I am sure he will be in the conversation. I was much more impressed by Milner yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 [quote name='akiliMVP' timestamp='1357077420' post='1202268'] Ogletree had 13 tackles, 3 tackles for loss and 1 sack [/quote] many of those tackles were 7yds downfield. Dude is soft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akiliMVP Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 [quote name='Bengals1181' timestamp='1357078614' post='1202286'] many of those tackles were 7yds downfield. Dude is soft. [/quote] I only listened to it on the radio but they were gushing over him blowing a couple people up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 [quote name='akiliMVP' timestamp='1357078696' post='1202291'] I only listened to it on the radio but they were gushing over him blowing a couple people up. [/quote] let's put it this way, he's worse than mauluga at attacking the line of scrimmage and shedding blockers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 [quote name='akiliMVP' timestamp='1357078150' post='1202276'] Clowney isn't draft eligible but holy shit [/quote] Clowney would almost be losing enough games to get the number one pick for. There's a good chance he comes into the league as the best defensive player in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Numbers| Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 [quote name='MichaelWeston' timestamp='1356925563' post='1201570'] So far I have heard WR Tavon Austin DE Dion Jordan FS Eric Reid LB Manti Teo LB Jarvis Jones DE Sam Montgomery RB Giorvanni Bernard LB Alec Ogletree DE Ezekiel Ansah, BYU FS Kenny Vaccaro, Texas DE Alex Okafor, Texas DE Barkevious Mingo, LSU S Matt Elam, Florida Some wont fall to us. Some I personally don't want but who else should I add to the list as options here. [/quote] You don't see any possibility of an O lineman coming in round one ? Barrett Jones for instance... A truly versatile player who can play any spot on the line. I think it would be nice to have another solid player opposite Zeitler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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