MichaelWeston Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 2018 Head Coach: Marvin Lewis Offensive Coordinator: Bill Lazor QBs Coach: Alex Van Pelt RBs Coach: Kyle Caskey WRs Coach: Bob Bicknell TEs Coach: Jonathan Hayes OL coach: Frank Pollack STs Coordinator: Darrin Simmons Defensive Coordinator: Teryl Austin DL Coach: Jacob Burney Assistant DL: Matt Raich LB Coach: Jim Haslett DB Coach: Daronte Jones? Secondary Coach: Robert Livingston Out DC - Paul Guenther OL - Paul Alexander WR - James Urban DB Coach: Kevin Coyle Bears MATT NAGY Bengals MARVIN LEWIS Cardinals Pat Shurmur (1/5), Matt Patricia (1/6), Brian Flores (1/6), Mike Munchack (1/7), John DeFelipo (1/5), Keith Armstrong, James Bettcher (1/3), Jim Schwartz (1/5), Steve Wilks Colts Kris Richard (1/4), Josh McDaniels (1/3), Matt Nagy (1/7), Steve Wilks, Mike Vrabel (1/6) Giants Matt Patricia (1/5), Josh McDaniels (1/5), Jim Schwartz, Eric Studesville (1/10), Steve Wilks, Pat Shurmur (1/6), Steve Spagnulou (1/3) Lions Matt Patricia (1/5), Mike Vrabel (1/3), Pat Shurmur (1/4), Winston Moss (1/4), Teryl Austin (1/2), Steve Wilks, Jim Bob Cooter (1/2) Raiders JOHN GRUDEN The coaches and who may be gone. Let me know if I should make any adjustments. Making this more concise then the rabbit hole that other thread went down. Out Bengals-Marvin Lewis: STAYING Contract ended, he is gone. Giants-Ben McAdoo: OUT Already fired. New GM. Probably Out Bears-John Fox: OUT He has literally no talent at receiver but a 12-32 record in 3 years. Likely gone. I would assume Pete Carmicheal is in play here as their GM was in New Orleans. Colts-Chuck Pagano: OUT Luck is out but Pagano has been on every list of coaches likely gone. Went 11-5 each of his first 3 season. 8-8 the next 2 and now 3-11. Bucs-Dirk Koetter: STAYING Word is he is out with a reported rift with Winston and not so great win numbers after some high expectations to start the year. Maybe Out Cardinals-Bruce Arians: OUT Rumors of possible retirement. Fitzgerald signed on for 1 more year and Palmer is ancient. I could see the trio sticking around for a year. Browns-Hue Jackson: STAYING Owner says he stays. GM says he stays. But new GM might want his own guy. Broncos-Vance Joseph: STAYING Word is he will get at least another year. Broncos have underperformed. Lions-Jim Caldwell: OUT Contract is up but the Lions are in the mix Texans-Bill O’Brien: STAYING Personality reportedly doesn’t mesh with Texas. Injury to Deshaun might save him. Raiders-Jack Del Rio: OUT Underperforming team after a great 2016. 12-4 last year and 6-8 this year. Redskins-Jay Gruden: STAYING Very average win numbers. 4-12, 9-7, 8-7-1, 6-8. Could be on the market. Probably Safe Ravens-John Harbaugh: Heading into year 10. 92-64 record. Lots of injuries this year. In the playoff hunt. Cowboys-Jason Garrett: Cowboys didn’t live up to expectations this year and Jerry Jones is a wildcard. Packers-Mike McCarthy: Florio listed him as a wild card to get fired. Tough after a season without ARod. Chiefs-Andy Reid: Started out hot and then fell back to earth. Likely staying. Dolphins-Adam Gase: Have not seen his name anywhere. They are not having a great year but he has had a bit of a fiasco at QB. Jets-Todd Bowles: STAYING On everyone’s hot seat to start the year, “tanking” Jets are playing above expectations. Seahawks-Pete Carroll: STAYING Carroll has had tons of success but is 66. He should be back if he wants to be. Titans-Mike Mularkey: STAYING Have not seen his name anywhere but the Titans are totally up and down. Were recently the underdog against the 49ers who had 3 wins. Safe Falcons-Dan Quinn: Safe. They have had a down year but he is just in year 3 and went to the Super Bowl last year. Bills-Sean McDermott: Safe. In the playoff hunt in year 1 with lots of roster changes. Panthers-Ron Rivera: Safe. 10-4 and a history of winning. Jaguars-Doug Marrone: Jags having a great year. Chargers-Anthony Lynn: Year 1 and 7-7. Rams-Sean McVay: Year 1 and 10-4 and one of the hottest teams in the league. Vikings-Mike Zimmer: Would be a candidate for coach of the year if not for Rams 11-3 Patriots-Bill Belichick: Belichick is 65 years old and has that job until he decides to leave. Have to think he is back if they are trading Jimmy G because that’s a big indicator that Brady is back. Saints-Sean Payton: Saints are 10-4. Eagles-Doug Pederson: Eagles are 12-2 and have best record in NFL. Stealers-Mike Tomlin: Stealers are 11-3. 49ers-Kyle Shanahan: Niners on a 3 game winning streak, just got a new QB and Shanahan is in his first year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted December 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 Potential Options, let me know if I am missing anyone Offensive Coordinator Pete Carmicheal, Saints OC Jim Bob Cooter, Lions OC: Todd Downing, Raiders OC: Harold Goodwin, Cards OC: AFC North (Stealers Offensive Assistant 2007-2011), OL coaching experience Todd Haley, Stealers OC: AFC North (Stealers, 2012-Present), Chiefs HC 2009-2011 (19-26) BROWNS OC Matt LaFleur, Rams OC: Mike McCoy, Broncos OC: Chargers HC 2013-2016 (27-37) COLTS Josh McDaniels, Patriots OC: John Carroll Graduate, Broncos HC (11-17) BEARS Matt Nagy, Chiefs OC: Former Columbus Arena league baller Frank Reich, Eagles OC: Terry Robiskie, Titans OC GIANTS Pat Shurmur, Vikings OC Ken Whisenhunt, Chargers OC: AFC North (Ravens-Browns-Stealers 1997-2006) Cardinals Head Coach, 2007-2012, Titans Head Coach 2014-2015 (48-71) Offensive Assistants Tom Cable, Seahawks OL Coach RAIDERS OL John DeFelippo, Eagles QBs Coach: AFC North (Browns coach), From Youngstown Russ Grimm, Titans OL Coach: AFC North (Stealers 2001-2006) Mike Munchack, Stealers OL Coach: AFC North (Oilers back in the day) (Stealers 2014-2017), Titans HC 2011-2013 (22-26) Defensive Coordinators Teryl Austin, Lions DC: AFC North (Ravens DB 2011-2013) BENGALS DC Matt Burke, Dolphins DC: Former Bengals Assistant George Edwards, Vikings DC Paul Guenther, Bengals DC: RAIDERS DC Marquand Manuel, DC: Former Bengals player LIONS Matt Patricia, Patriots DC Kris Richard, Seahawks DC COWBOYS DBS Jim Schwartz, Eagles DC: Ex Lions Head Coach (29-51) Steve Spagnuolo, Giants DC Mike Smith, Broncos DC TITANS Mike Vrabel, Texans DC: Akron, OH Native, OSU Grad and Coach CARDINALS Steve Wilks, Panthers DC Special Teams Coordinators Dave Toub, Chiefs: Current Head Coaches John Harbaugh, Ravens: Ohio Native STAYING Hue Jackson, Browns: Chuck Pagano, Colts: Bruce Arians, Cardinals: STAYING Marvin Lewis, Bengals: STAYING Jay Gruden, Redskins: STAYING Bill O'Brien, Texans: Ex Head Coaches RAIDERS Jon Gruden, Monday Night Football: Ohio Native Jim Tressell, Youngstown State President: OSU College Coaches Jim Harbaugh, Michigan Greg Schiano, OSU DC David Shaw, Stanford PENGUIN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madieu Superstar Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 I really don’t want Cooter. I know they’ve improved since he took over, but when you watch them, I just see Stafford’s arm and mobility in the pocket as being the main reason for their success. The line isn’t very good, the running game is below average, and the WR’s are okay. Anytime I’ve seen them play, I just come away feeling that Stafford is really darn good. I never think that the offense is just very well schemed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omgdrdoom Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 That looks like a lot of thinking and work put into this whenever we're just going to hire the most familiar face willing to coach here. I'll make this simple: Potential Options Paul Guenther Darrin Simmons Potential ex-girlfriend reunions The worse Gruden Vance Joseph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|schotzee| Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 19 minutes ago, Madieu Superstar said: I really don’t want Cooter. I know they’ve improved since he took over, but when you watch them, I just see Stafford’s arm and mobility in the pocket as being the main reason for their success. The line isn’t very good, the running game is below average, and the WR’s are okay. Anytime I’ve seen them play, I just come away feeling that Stafford is really darn good. I never think that the offense is just very well schemed. Ditto that on Cooter. From things I've read, he doesn't have a good reume on developing good players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredtoast Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 Former Titans head coach Mike Munchack, currently O-line coach for the Stealers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|schotzee| Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 5 minutes ago, fredtoast said: Former Titans head coach Mike Munchack, currently O-line coach for the Stealers. Weston has him on the list. Or are you saying he would be your choice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredtoast Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 1 hour ago, omgdrdoom said: That looks like a lot of thinking and work put into this whenever we're just going to hire the most familiar face willing to coach here. I don't know why people keep saying stuff like this. When I look back at former head coaches and coordinators a lot of them came from other teams. (Bratkowski, Frazier, Lewis, Zimmer, Gruden). That being said i would not be surprised if we hired someone currently on the staff or who has worked here before. The bengals are not the only team that promotes from within at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredtoast Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 1 minute ago, schotzee said: Weston has him on the list. Or are you saying he would be your choice? I missed his name already being mentioned. And I think he would be a good choice. Either him or Mike McCoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted December 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 2 hours ago, Madieu Superstar said: I really don’t want Cooter. I know they’ve improved since he took over, but when you watch them, I just see Stafford’s arm and mobility in the pocket as being the main reason for their success. The line isn’t very good, the running game is below average, and the WR’s are okay. Anytime I’ve seen them play, I just come away feeling that Stafford is really darn good. I never think that the offense is just very well schemed. I agree. I am somewhat surprised by his ascension. However, he might be available as an OC if Caldwell walks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted December 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 2 hours ago, omgdrdoom said: That looks like a lot of thinking and work put into this whenever we're just going to hire the most familiar face willing to coach here. I'll make this simple: Potential Options Paul Guenther Darrin Simmons Potential ex-girlfriend reunions The worse Gruden Vance Joseph I hope you are wrong but wouldn't be too surprised. I would also throw Todd Haley into that mix as an in conference known commodity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted December 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 21 minutes ago, fredtoast said: I don't know why people keep saying stuff like this. When I look back at former head coaches and coordinators a lot of them came from other teams. (Bratkowski, Frazier, Lewis, Zimmer, Gruden). That being said i would not be surprised if we hired someone currently on the staff or who has worked here before. The bengals are not the only team that promotes from within at times. The last 4 head coaches were either in house or known commodities from the AFC North. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted December 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 20 minutes ago, fredtoast said: I missed his name already being mentioned. And I think he would be a good choice. Either him or Mike McCoy. I think there is bad blood because of the hair pull. But I would add him to the list as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredtoast Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 6 minutes ago, MichaelWeston said: The last 4 head coaches were either in house or known commodities from the AFC North. I thought Shula came from Dallas. But expanding it to include the entire division covers a lot of candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted December 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 2 hours ago, fredtoast said: I thought Shula came from Dallas. But expanding it to include the entire division covers a lot of candidates. Looked around and not too many this year. Mainly just Stealers and from what I can see Munchack and Haley. I hope they look outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Numbers| Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 6 hours ago, MichaelWeston said: College Coaches Jim Harbaugh, Michigan Might be an issue with Ohio fans but is number one on my list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted December 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 Frankly I don't really know what I'm talking about. But from what I have seen I like Richard: fiery young leader who put together the legion of boom and who Sherman credits with being an incredible coach. Carmicheal: Just getting hot on him. I have to think that Saints offense would translate well for us. Reich: eagles offense. Was fired from Chargers though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengallifer18 Posted December 25, 2017 Report Share Posted December 25, 2017 If the Bengals win next week. I bet Marv's not going anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|schotzee| Posted December 25, 2017 Report Share Posted December 25, 2017 On 12/21/2017 at 5:54 PM, MichaelWeston said: Reich: eagles offense. Was fired from Chargers though From what it sounds, he had to be the fall guy. SanDiego had a terrible year but kept McCoy and the gm. Passing game was pretty good but I think they were dead last in rushing due to a constantly shifting line. Primary running back had an injury plagued season as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted December 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2017 56 minutes ago, Bengallifer18 said: If the Bengals win next week. I bet Marv's not going anywhere You shut your mouth when your talking to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 25, 2017 Report Share Posted December 25, 2017 On 12/21/2017 at 5:25 PM, Numbers said: Might be an issue with Ohio fans but is number one on my list. He has one win against his 2 biggest rivals since joining ttun. I think he's overrated as a coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Numbers| Posted December 25, 2017 Report Share Posted December 25, 2017 11 hours ago, Jason said: He has one win against his 2 biggest rivals since joining ttun. I think he's overrated as a coach. Harbaugh: Regular season: 44–19–1 (.695) (NFL) Postseason: 5–3 (.625) (NFL) 2–2 (.500) (college) Career: 49–22–1 (.688) (NFL) 86-37 (.699) (college) Lewis: Career: 123–119–3 (.508) Regular season: 123–112–3 (.523) Harbaugh > Lewis .695 > .523 Regular Season Winning Pct. .688 > .508 Career Winning Pct. .625 > .000 Postseason Winning Pct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Numbers| Posted December 26, 2017 Report Share Posted December 26, 2017 With the exception of Bruce Arians, there is no former head coach with better stats than Harbaugh. We can already say that his brother with the Ravens is not going anywhere. Harbaugh > Arians .695 > .652 Regular Season Winning Pct. .688 > .637 Career Winning Pct. .625 > .333 Postseason Winning Pct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Numbers| Posted December 26, 2017 Report Share Posted December 26, 2017 "New football coach Jim Harbaugh's seven-year contract with the Michigan, obtained by the Free Press on Friday, could be worth significantly more than $5.7 million in annual average and is almost fully guaranteed. Perhaps of most interest to Michigan fans is Harbaugh's buyout. If Harbaugh were to leave early to, say, go back to the NFL, he would be responsible for the prorated amount of his signing bonus ($2 million). So if he were to leave after three years, he would owe four-sevenths of the $2 million ($1.14 million)." In other words, Harbaugh is under contract to 2021. However, to buyout the remaining years would be $1.14 million. Bad news; Harbaugh still makes more per year than Lewis. Marvin Lewis Cincinnati Bengals $4,500,000, Harbaugh Michigan $5.7 million in annual average and is almost fully guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Posted December 26, 2017 Report Share Posted December 26, 2017 I wonder if Arians is out in AZ, that ol' Marv slides right in there where his large house is... and eventually takes Burfict with him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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