LostInDaJungle Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 This defense was DOG CRAP last year. A few bright spots, but overall crap. We lost stalwarts like Dunlap, Lawson and Atkins and picked up some guys who were backups for other teams. We didn't sign a vet LB. We replaced holes in the secondary with guys who had question marks. The Bengals defense, right now, is the #4 defense in the league by DVOA. They finished last year #27. Even by raw number rankings #13. It's easy to remember a drive that could have gone better... Heck, he's had games that could have gone better. But I've said it all year - Lou calls a good game. He's getting production out of a decimated LB corps, managing to rotate guys on the line and secondary with nary a hitch. Guys are playing hard for him and flying to the ball. Let's let coach hear it. Hell of a job Lou. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 I was wrong about him for sure. He has this D playing well. Time to show up big this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 You are appreciated, Lou. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Ray Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 I'm not impressed. Sorry. That defense should have looked dominant vs a depleted Ravens offense and Josh Johnson had an awfully good day. Lou's defense also was embarrassingly bad vs the inept NY Jets and the Browns game was pretty putrid too. I'm confident Joe Burrow and this offense can score on anyone but not this defense. Lou has a chance to prove me wrong this weekend. Can he slow down the Chiefs? We'll see. I have my doubts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostInDaJungle Posted December 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Sea Ray said: I'm not impressed. Sorry. That defense should have looked dominant vs a depleted Ravens offense and Josh Johnson had an awfully good day. Lou's defense also was embarrassingly bad vs the inept NY Jets and the Browns game was pretty putrid too. I'm confident Joe Burrow and this offense can score on anyone but not this defense. Lou has a chance to prove me wrong this weekend. Can he slow down the Chiefs? We'll see. I have my doubts Either way you slice it... We're top half of the league. By DVOA, Lou does it better than 27 other guys in the NFL. If you're not convinced with two games left in the season, then I doubt you ever will be. Kinda the point of this thread is that despite some bad games or series we could all point to, it's time to appreciate that the defense has been damn good by any metric, and we should stop bitching about one bad series or even one bad game. The "averages" are in. And on average, this is a damn good defense. Considering he did it with other teams scraps... Zero pro-bowlers. We may not be the '01 Ravens, but Joe Batchi isn't exactly Ray Lewis either. Props to Lou. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, LostInDaJungle said: Either way you slice it... We're top half of the league. By DVOA, Lou does it better than 27 other guys in the NFL. If you're not convinced with two games left in the season, then I doubt you ever will be. Kinda the point of this thread is that despite some bad games or series we could all point to, it's time to appreciate that the defense has been damn good by any metric, and we should stop bitching about one bad series or even one bad game. The "averages" are in. And on average, this is a damn good defense. Considering he did it with other teams scraps... Zero pro-bowlers. We may not be the '01 Ravens, but Joe Batchi isn't exactly Ray Lewis either. Props to Lou. Hendrickson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostInDaJungle Posted December 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: Hendrickson My bad, I thought he was an alternate. So... One pro-bowler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, LostInDaJungle said: My bad, I thought he was an alternate. So... One pro-bowler. No worries, your overall point remains. I mean Eli Apple had been a bust on how many teams? He gets here and after a slow start is proving to be what the Giants drafted him to be. Good on Lou for that alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostInDaJungle Posted December 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Sea Ray said: Josh Johnson had an awfully good day If you're playing the Ravens last Sunday... Isn't your game plan to stop the run at all cost and make Josh Johnson beat you? I mean, you could drop 8 into coverage all day and say "Hah, we've taken away the weakest part of their attack! Now they'll have to run the ball!" They are the #5 rushing team in the league AFTER last Sunday. They average 137.7 yards on the ground. They had 39 yards last weekend. (Coming into the game they were the #3 ranked rushing offense with 147.1 yards per game) Josh Johnson had a good day. Or... The #3 rushing attack got less than 40 yards on 16 attempts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steggyD Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, LostInDaJungle said: If you're playing the Ravens last Sunday... Isn't your game plan to stop the run at all cost and make Josh Johnson beat you? I mean, you could drop 8 into coverage all day and say "Hah, we've taken away the weakest part of their attack! Now they'll have to run the ball!" They are the #5 rushing team in the league AFTER last Sunday. They average 137.7 yards on the ground. They had 39 yards last weekend. (Coming into the game they were the #3 ranked rushing offense with 147.1 yards per game) Josh Johnson had a good day. Or... The #3 rushing attack got less than 40 yards on 16 attempts. Good point. Obviously Burrow can out throw Johnson, so let him throw. Stop the run. The only guy catching the ball was the big dude anyway. They might get a few points that way, but they're not gonna win. It was a solid plan that obviously worked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 He isn’t going to out-throw the KC God-man. Lou is going to be calling the game of his career Sunday to have a chance (no pressure, Lou). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Le Tigre said: He isn’t going to out-throw the KC God-man. How do you know that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steggyD Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 12 minutes ago, Le Tigre said: He isn’t going to out-throw the KC God-man. Lou is going to be calling the game of his career Sunday to have a chance (no pressure, Lou). Then there will be a different plan for KC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 hour ago, spicoli said: How do you know that? OK, let's rephrase: He will not out-gun the KC God-man. He may throw the ball 46 times again, but this week it may be simply to attempt keeping up. That is, unless Appreciated Lou and his cohorts can slow the Divine Mister M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Ray Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 hour ago, LostInDaJungle said: If you're playing the Ravens last Sunday... Isn't your game plan to stop the run at all cost and make Josh Johnson beat you? I mean, you could drop 8 into coverage all day and say "Hah, we've taken away the weakest part of their attack! Now they'll have to run the ball!" They are the #5 rushing team in the league AFTER last Sunday. They average 137.7 yards on the ground. They had 39 yards last weekend. (Coming into the game they were the #3 ranked rushing offense with 147.1 yards per game) Josh Johnson had a good day. Or... The #3 rushing attack got less than 40 yards on 16 attempts. Johnson moved the ball all too easily yesterday. Burrow had a career day yet the game was still in doubt in the 4th qtr. That's not good. My guess is that Lou's D will be embarrassed this weekend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 22 minutes ago, Le Tigre said: He will not out-gun the KC God-man and again, you know that how? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Sea Ray said: Johnson moved the ball all too easily yesterday. Burrow had a career day yet the game was still in doubt in the 4th qtr. That's not good. My guess is that Lou's D will be embarrassed this weekend Johnson has been a QB in the NFL for 14 years, I’m pretty sure he knows where to go with the ball at this point….especially when playing a defense going all out to stop the run. It’s almost like you’re dying to blame Lou for a loss that didn’t happen. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Ray Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, spicoli said: Johnson has been a QB in the NFL for 14 years, I’m pretty sure he knows where to go with the ball at this point….especially when playing a defense going all out to stop the run. It’s almost like you’re dying to blame Lou for a loss that didn’t happen. I'm not blaming anyone but I am pumping the brakes on his praises. The last time I was ready to sing his praises his defense gave us the NY Jets game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostInDaJungle Posted December 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 37 minutes ago, Sea Ray said: I'm not blaming anyone but I am pumping the brakes on his praises. The last time I was ready to sing his praises his defense gave us the NY Jets game Eh, people say Bob Dylan is pretty good, but I saw him in concert one time and he kinda sucked. Jets game included, it's been a damn good run this year. Jets game included, we're #4 in DVOA. That sucky concert included, Bob Dylan was pretty good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Ray Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 I heard Bob Dylan at his age today sounds horrible in concert. I don't think he ever sounded that good. He's a legendary writer but I generally prefer someone else sing his songs As for DVOA, it sounds kinda like the WAR stat in baseball; one that people praise but in the end no one really knows the formula. In this case I hope it's accurate and predicative for our Bengals moving forward this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleEarl Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 hour ago, spicoli said: and again, you know that how? How do you know he will? Two can play that game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleEarl Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 38 minutes ago, Sea Ray said: I heard Bob Dylan at his age today sounds horrible in concert. I don't think he ever sounded that good. He's a legendary writer but I generally prefer someone else sing his songs As for DVOA, it sounds kinda like the WAR stat in baseball; one that people praise but in the end no one really knows the formula. In this case I hope it's accurate and predicative for our Bengals moving forward this year Dylan in his prime out together some pretty amazing backing bands, so I suppose it was timing. He never could sing very well, but then again neither can Willie. Both are legends and damned good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, UncleEarl said: Dylan in his prime out together some pretty amazing backing bands, so I suppose it was timing. He never could sing very well, but then again neither can Willie. Both are legends and damned good. Bobby Zimmerman was a poet that put cords to his poems.. I dont think there was ever an artist who could match his abilty to do that.. Maybe John Lennon to a point.. His songs still have that effect to this day.. And what this has yo do with Annarumo thread I have no idea..😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 hour ago, UncleEarl said: How do you know he will? Two can play that game. I don’t know that he will and I didn’t say that I did. LT stated however that JB would NOT outgun Mahomes in this game. I’m simply saying…why not? Why won’t he? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 29 minutes ago, spicoli said: I don’t know that he will and I didn’t say that I did. LT stated however that JB would NOT outgun Mahomes in this game. I’m simply saying…why not? Why can’t he? 3 hours ago, Le Tigre said: He isn’t going to out-throw the KC God-man. Lou is going to be calling the game of his career Sunday to have a chance (no pressure, Lou). LT Ive agreed with damn near every comment youve posted.. But... Let me say that Mahomes is a rare creature at QB.. Anything you want from a QB he has it..ok.. Let me also add that Mahomes has allways had a very good oline in front of him which JB has not.. I remember the playoff game whhen his 2 best linemen were out and he looked mediocre no? Love to see JB with a line such as Mahomes has had.. Then you'd realize that who what your saying is ...simply not true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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