Republicans

[Shebengal]

1 hour ago, T-Dub said:

 

Of course the place was shut down for the day and the whole thing staged for the cameras.

 

But hey, at least he's got a head start training for a job he might be qualified for (JK this overgrown spoiled brat probably doesn't even know how to operate a toaster)

But McDonalds doesn’t hire felons. 

[T-Dub]

33 minutes ago, Shebengal said:

But McDonalds doesn’t hire felons. 

 

That plus the 14th Amendment should disqualify him from the Presidency, but luckily for him laws do not apply

[Jamie_B]

So are we just gonna ignore that Trump said he would use the military on "the enemy from with in" and then went on to call Shift and Pelosi exactly that?

[T-Dub]

4 hours ago, Jamie_B said:

So are we just gonna ignore that Trump said he would use the military on "the enemy from with in" and then went on to call Shift and Pelosi exactly that?

 

 

WDYM?   The fascism is a selling point with the people that still support him.  If they even know the definition they think it means having to wear a mask at the grocery store for a few months during a global pandemic, which they don't even believe in anyway.

 

These are not sane, rational people.  They're in their own little fantasy worlds.  The reality of what Trump says or does has no impact there, they will rationalize and make excuses for anything.  They're comparing him to Jesus Christ and want to make him an Emperor. 

 

Killing anyone that disagrees with their insanity is far from a problem for them. It's part of his appeal.

[CincyInDC]

1 hour ago, T-Dub said:

 

 

WDYM?   The fascism is a selling point with the people that still support him.  If they even know the definition they think it means having to wear a mask at the grocery store for a few months during a global pandemic, which they don't even believe in anyway.

 

These are not sane, rational people.  They're in their own little fantasy worlds.  The reality of what Trump says or does has no impact there, they will rationalize and make excuses for anything.  They're comparing him to Jesus Christ and want to make him an Emperor. 

 

Killing anyone that disagrees with their insanity is far from a problem for them. It's part of his appeal.

 

Yeah, but I can't really just find a way to justify voting for Joe Biden -- whoops I mean Kamala Harris.

 

/s

 

 

[T-Dub]

1 hour ago, CincyInDC said:

 

Yeah, but I can't really just find a way to justify voting for Joe Biden -- whoops I mean Kamala Harris.

 

/s

 

 

 

Shit I don't even like Kamala, as I've made pretty clear.  She just has the good fortune of running against a traitor.

[T-Dub]

BTW here's what he looks like without the Cheeto dust and hairpiece.  (Which wouldn't matter if he wasn't a malignant narcissist.)

 

 

[Jamie_B]

Trump: ‘I Need the Kind of Generals That Hitler Had’

[Shebengal]

3 hours ago, T-Dub said:

BTW here's what he looks like without the Cheeto dust and hairpiece.  (Which wouldn't matter if he wasn't a malignant narcissist.)

 

 

He looks better without the spray tan and fake hair, but he also looks like Gordon Jump. 😂

[T-Dub]

18 minutes ago, Shebengal said:

He looks better without the spray tan and fake hair, but he also looks like Gordon Jump. 😂

 

Yeah, looks like a fairly normal 80 year old dude

[Homer_Rice]

15 hours ago, CincyInDC said:

 

Yeah, but I can't really just find a way to justify voting for Joe Biden -- whoops I mean Kamala Harris.

 

/s

 

 

This is me. No sarcasm. I won't vote for Trump because he is a fucking evil galoot, nor can I vote for Biden/Harris/Democratic Party because they are also evil fuckers who have been gaslighting the working class since Clinton. And this current admin are just killers. Literally. So, I'm sitting this one out. Just gonna vote on the issues on the ballot. Neither party wants my vote.

[T-Dub]

On 10/23/2024 at 5:30 AM, Homer_Rice said:

This is me. No sarcasm. I won't vote for Trump because he is a fucking evil galoot, nor can I vote for Biden/Harris/Democratic Party because they are also evil fuckers who have been gaslighting the working class since Clinton. And this current admin are just killers. Literally. So, I'm sitting this one out. Just gonna vote on the issues on the ballot. Neither party wants my vote.

 

I can not imagine looking at the potential outcome of a Trump victory and thinking "eh.. whatever".  This is no endorsement of the Dems who I think as a party, at least among the old guard leaders, absolutely love Trump as a boogeyman that allows them to run another corporate authoritarian stooge and still look progressive by comparison.

 

Kamala kind of sucks, I get that. For me it's not about the candidates but rather voting to continue voting. With her I'm fairly confident we will have future elections. Trump has made it quite clear he'd prefer to do away with all that. He's selling a Christofascist police state. 

 

I would encourage you to consider voting for a 3rd party candidate at the very least. The stakes are far too high for someone with your knowledge and wisdom to remain on the sidelines. I think you'd regret doing nothing, regardless of who wins. I also have to say, respectfully, that if you think this won't affect you that you are speaking from a place of priviliged apathy, and also that you're wrong. It matters, for everyone.

 

Of course it's ultimately your choice but not voting isn't some noble act of protest. It's simply giving up, and I think you're better than that. 

[Jamie_B]

5 minutes ago, T-Dub said:

 

I can not imagine looking at the potential outcome of a Trump victory and thinking "eh.. whatever".  This is no endorsement of the Dems who I think as a party, at least among the old guard leaders, absolutely love Trump as a boogeyman that allows them to run another corporate authoritarian stooge and still look progressive by comparison.

 

Kamala kind of sucks, I get that. For me it's not about the candidates but rather voting to continue voting. With her I'm fairly confident we will have future elections. Trump has made it quite clear he'd prefer to do away with all that. He's selling a Christofascist police state. 

 

I would encourage you to consider voting for a 3rd party candidate at the very least. The stakes are far too high for someone with your knowledge and wisdom to remain on the sidelines. I think you'd regret doing nothing, regardless of who wins. I also have to say, respectfully, that if you think that won't affect you that you are speaking from a place of priviliged apathy, and also that you're wrong. It matters, for everyone.

 

Of course it's ultimately your choice but not voting isn't some noble act of protest. It's simply giving up, and I think you're better than that. 

 

 

To be fair to Homer, he lives in KY so his vote isnt going to change the outcome, that is a solid Red state, so he can make that choice with no issue.

[T-Dub]

3 minutes ago, Jamie_B said:

 

 

To be fair to Homer, he lives in KY so his vote isnt going to change the outcome, that is a solid Red state, so he can make that choice with no issue.

 

They said the same thing about Georgia and Arizona last time. Didn't "solid red"  Texas go to Trump by less than 5% of the vote?  None of these states are solid anything, not with roughly 1/3rd of eligible voters sitting on their hands instead every time.

[Jamie_B]

Just now, T-Dub said:

 

They said the same thing about Georgia and Arizona last time.

 

Sure, but GA has Atlanta in it and that area has changed the equation over time as it has basically become "NYC South", AZ has always gone back and forth. And while KY has elected a fairly progressive Governor, I can't tell you the last time they were even close to voting blue at the presidential level.

[Jamie_B]

1996 - Elections in Kentucky - Wikipedia

 

In fact it has been fairly lopsided in recent years

[Homer_Rice]

As I've already suggested, T-Dub, we don't think about the world in similar ways. I do appreciate the concern. Trump is bad, Andrew Jackson levels of bad, but he isn't the danger that the intelligence services have made him out to be. I do agree that another presidency for him would be disastrous. If elected, his incompetence alone will derail a lot of his inclinations, although it's true that the oligarchy in this country will try to take advantage. But, they've been doing that since long before the advent of Trump. If you want to rail about something, go a little deeper than the temperamentally childish poster boy and really dig in on what has happened to this country in the past 50 years. It's bi-partisan.

 

In any case, trying to shame me into voting for genocide and lower grocery store prices is a non-starter.

 

I'm quite comfortable as a citizen, though I have not always lived up to the high marks of many of my ancestors, going all the way back to colonial times. I've mentioned some of them here before. Nor have I any sympathy for the Confederacy, as some others of my family did. What I have done, over the course of my life, is something more than equate my vote as a singular demonstration of my citizenry. I've attended hundreds of civic/political meetings in my lifetime, from local confabs to national conventions. I've walked hundreds of miles knocking on thousands of doors for candidates and causes I support. I've written a lot and will continue to do so, now that my health has more or less returned.

 

Again, I do appreciate your thoughts, I know they come from a good place in your heart. But I'm going to exercise my right as a citizen to to call "Phooey" on the uniparty.

 

As I said, they don't want my vote.

[T-Dub]

11 hours ago, Homer_Rice said:

As I've already suggested, T-Dub, we don't think about the world in similar ways. I do appreciate the concern. Trump is bad, Andrew Jackson levels of bad, but he isn't the danger that the intelligence services have made him out to be. I do agree that another presidency for him would be disastrous. If elected, his incompetence alone will derail a lot of his inclinations, although it's true that the oligarchy in this country will try to take advantage. But, they've been doing that since long before the advent of Trump. If you want to rail about something, go a little deeper than the temperamentally childish poster boy and really dig in on what has happened to this country in the past 50 years. It's bi-partisan.

 

In any case, trying to shame me into voting for genocide and lower grocery store prices is a non-starter.

 

I'm quite comfortable as a citizen, though I have not always lived up to the high marks of many of my ancestors, going all the way back to colonial times. I've mentioned some of them here before. Nor have I any sympathy for the Confederacy, as some others of my family did. What I have done, over the course of my life, is something more than equate my vote as a singular demonstration of my citizenry. I've attended hundreds of civic/political meetings in my lifetime, from local confabs to national conventions. I've walked hundreds of miles knocking on thousands of doors for candidates and causes I support. I've written a lot and will continue to do so, now that my health has more or less returned.

 

Again, I do appreciate your thoughts, I know they come from a good place in your heart. But I'm going to exercise my right as a citizen to to call "Phooey" on the uniparty.

 

As I said, they don't want my vote.

 

Hey FWIW I understand Trump is much more a symptom than the cause.. My intent wasn't really to shame you, I respect your decision even if I don't agree with it, I know it's not one you'd take lightly & definitely understand the inclination not to participate in a process that might feel like condoning the agenda of either one of these candidates. Also see you intend to vote for other offices & whatever else lands on your local ballot.

 

For me, I really want to see this regressive, bigoted dipshittery buried, probably not forever, but at least chased back under the rock where they've been hiding the past few decades.  Voting in this election isn't the end of it but I can't imagine,  for myself, not doing the absolute bare minimum in lending my one vote to defeating a direct & vocal threat to our democracy.  It's as much about resisting the intimidation tactics from these cretins as anything, win or lose.  I don't for a second think that'll be enough, fully expect Trump could receive not a single vote and still declare victory while trying to incite more unrest.  It's about feeding his insatiable ego and the ongoing grift - the guy spent the better part of his first term playing golf and blathering about whatever bullshit cause du jour, he has not real interest in governance.

 

Anyway.. Glad to hear you're doing better & look forward to hearing more from you as all this plays out.  Your takes are very much appreciated.

[T-Dub]

[Shebengal]

I’ll say it again. Down ballot voting, wherever you are, is really important this year to try to blunt any effect the Cheeto winning may have, if that happens. We’re seeing millions and millions of dollars being spent in Ohio in the Senate race, plus we have an anti-gerrymandering issue on the ballot. Control of the Ohio Supreme Court is also up for grabs, so I would like to see the idiot judges who said that you should expect to find bones in boneless chicken wings to be defeated. 
 

Speaking of Texas, Ted Cruz is in a battle to keep his Senate seat. The most recent poll only has him a point ahead. Also, Tami Wilson here in Ohio is running a ton of radio ads to try to defeat Gym Jordan. It would be such a pity to see them lose, wouldn’t it? 😂But if they did, they would probably just become Faux News contributors.

[claptonrocks]

4 hours ago, Shebengal said:

I’ll say it again. Down ballot voting, wherever you are, is really important this year to try to blunt any effect the Cheeto winning may have, if that happens. We’re seeing millions and millions of dollars being spent in Ohio in the Senate race, plus we have an anti-gerrymandering issue on the ballot. Control of the Ohio Supreme Court is also up for grabs, so I would like to see the idiot judges who said that you should expect to find bones in boneless chicken wings to be defeated. 
 

Speaking of Texas, Ted Cruz is in a battle to keep his Senate seat. The most recent poll only has him a point ahead. Also, Tami Wilson here in Ohio is running a ton of radio ads to try to defeat Gym Jordan. It would be such a pity to see them lose, wouldn’t it? 😂But if they did, they would probably just become Faux News contributors.

Your comments about the Republicans are crude and hopefully you'll never see your idea of a better America ever enacted by the Liberals.

 

[Shebengal]

13 hours ago, claptonrocks said:

Your comments about the Republicans are crude and hopefully you'll never see your idea of a better America ever enacted by the Liberals.

 

Gee, sorry you think my comments are crude. Personally, I think a Presidential candidate talking about someone else’s penis size at a rally is crude. I think a candidate who claims to “love women “ but cheated on all 3 of his wives (one of them while she was pregnant), and found liable for sexual assault, is crude. I find people who cover up sexual abuse, as Gym Jordan did, crude. And I think that anyone who says that you should expect to find bones in boneless wings is an idiot. I’m sorry if that offends you. 🙄

 

But contrary to what you may think, I’m not a bleeding heart liberal, either. I hate that the Democrats have such a hold on Columbus. The mayor is an asshole, the council isn’t much better, and neither is the school board. If the Republicans could find a contender to run for any of these offices, I would vote for them, but they know it’s a hopeless situation. I didn’t vote for either Presidential candidate. All I want is reasonable people to run for office, especially President. If there were a reasonable Republican alternative, I  probably would have voted for them. And no, JD Vance isn’t that answer, either. I don’t like super majorities for either party or political subdivisions. I want people to work together for the betterment of all. Is that too much to ask? 

[T-Dub]

"Liberal" in 2024 just means you believe in germ theory or that the moon landing happened.  Basically anyone without the smell of Trump's taint on their breath = radical Left.

 

It would be comical if he didn't also intend to round us all up into camps.

 

"Crude", says the man intending to vote for the "grab them by the pussy" candidate.   STFU.

[Shebengal]

6 hours ago, T-Dub said:

 

 

"Crude", says the man intending to vote for the "grab them by the pussy" candidate.   STFU.

I forgot to mention that point in my rant.

[T-Dub]

17 minutes ago, Shebengal said:

I forgot to mention that point in my rant.

 

His pendulum swings between hateful vitriol and blathering nonsense depending on his meds and how bad he's sundowning at any given moment. A comprehensive list is impossible.