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What are they offering the country at this point?

 

The corruption is so obvious but people seem to just ignore it

1. Gerrymandering in Ohio is so completely blatant that a republican supreme court is striking it down. How can anyone view it as anything but corrupt?

2. The January 6th insurrection was so batshit crazy and the response from the republican party has been to minimize it as if it was a riot gone bad....if that crowd found Pelosi she is executed.

3. There is no evidence that the election was rigged in any way however many republicans still believe this? Trump literally tried to pressure the attorney general of Georgia to find votes and they don't blink an eye over this. 

4. Trump already indicated if he was in power he would threaten to use nukes against Putin....don't even blink. 

5. Marjorie Taylor Greene attends a white supremacy conference....all good.

6. Madison Cawthorn and others have talked about how Ukrainian leadership is just propped up by America. He and Tucker and others seem to be rooting for Russia. 

7. This ignores absurd culture war things like CRT. If you take one second to look at the headlines on CNN vs Fox, you get news on one site and culture war on the other. How do people not see this?

8. Didn't/Don't beleieve in Covid despite 20 Million excess deaths worldwide

9. The candidates for Senate from Ohio couldn't be worse. They are as bad as it gets. 

10. 7 hours of call logs missing from the president on January 6th?

 

I am all for a second party that pushes for fiscal responsibility but this has gotten crazy. What happened to this party?

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18 hours ago, MichaelWeston said:

What are they offering the country at this point?

 

The corruption is so obvious but people seem to just ignore it

1. Gerrymandering in Ohio is so completely blatant that a republican supreme court is striking it down. How can anyone view it as anything but corrupt?

2. The January 6th insurrection was so batshit crazy and the response from the republican party has been to minimize it as if it was a riot gone bad....if that crowd found Pelosi she is executed.

3. There is no evidence that the election was rigged in any way however many republicans still believe this? Trump literally tried to pressure the attorney general of Georgia to find votes and they don't blink an eye over this. 

4. Trump already indicated if he was in power he would threaten to use nukes against Putin....don't even blink. 

5. Marjorie Taylor Greene attends a white supremacy conference....all good.

6. Madison Cawthorn and others have talked about how Ukrainian leadership is just propped up by America. He and Tucker and others seem to be rooting for Russia. 

7. This ignores absurd culture war things like CRT. If you take one second to look at the headlines on CNN vs Fox, you get news on one site and culture war on the other. How do people not see this?

8. Didn't/Don't beleieve in Covid despite 20 Million excess deaths worldwide

9. The candidates for Senate from Ohio couldn't be worse. They are as bad as it gets. 

10. 7 hours of call logs missing from the president on January 6th?

 

I am all for a second party that pushes for fiscal responsibility but this has gotten crazy. What happened to this party?

As a US citizen you have the right to

voice your opinions .

I for one am allways interested in other views..

 

Both parties are corrupt now..

The power and money that comes with it makes them become  leeches for more and more  is pure evil .

For every shady Rep there's a shady Dem..

Guess we have to pick who's less.

I say there equal...

 

 

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The Republican contest to run for the US Senate is a shitstorm. The only candidate I would even think about voting for would be Dolan. The rest are fighting to see who can be the Trumpiest.

 

But both parties suck.

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5 hours ago, claptonrocks said:

As a US citizen you have the right to

voice your opinions .

I for one am allways interested in other views..

 

Both parties are corrupt now..

The power and money that comes with it makes them become  leeches for more and more  is pure evil .

For every shady Rep there's a shady Dem..

Guess we have to pick who's less.

I say there equal...

 

 

I dont doubt that there are bad democrats, I just don't see the same level of corruption on both sides.

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11 hours ago, MichaelWeston said:

I dont doubt that there are bad democrats, I just don't see the same level of corruption on both sides.

 

 

Joe Manchin is selling out the planet in order to keep his coal empire.

 

Now had you said you don't see the same levels of bat shit crazy, I'd agree.

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On 3/30/2022 at 11:27 AM, Jamie_B said:

 

 

Joe Manchin is selling out the planet in order to keep his coal empire.

 

Now had you said you don't see the same levels of bat shit crazy, I'd agree.

That's not equivalent. That's what politicians do. What about the Q supporters and the big lie supporters?

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8 hours ago, MichaelWeston said:

That's not equivalent. That's what politicians do. What about the Q supporters and the big lie supporters?

 

You're confusing corrupt with bat shit crazy then.  Because "what politicians do" in Manchin's case is corrupt 

 

And I havent even gotten into his daughter and over pricing epi pens.

 

But no, I have not seen any Democrats talk about Jewish Space Lazers.

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On 3/29/2022 at 11:58 PM, MichaelWeston said:

I dont doubt that there are bad democrats, I just don't see the same level of corruption on both sides.

You ever heard of Hunter Biden?

One sick coniving pos that gets passes on his corrupt doings ..

He'll be exposed ..

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9 hours ago, claptonrocks said:

You ever heard of Hunter Biden?

One sick coniving pos that gets passes on his corrupt doings ..

He'll be exposed ..

But he isn't a politician. And nothing has been substantiated. 

 

We saw Trump and his kin profit off the presidency for 4 years. 

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16 minutes ago, MichaelWeston said:

But he isn't a politician. And nothing has been substantiated. 

 

We saw Trump and his kin profit off the presidency for 4 years. 

Your bouncing the ball back my way .

If you. defend Hunter Biden your wrong imo.

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Just an observation.

 

The conservative media wrote about the existence of Hunter Biden's laptop from hell before the 2020 election.  The mainstream media either denied or refused to comment about the laptop for over 18 months for whatever reason.  Now the Washington Post, New York Times, CNN and other mainstream journalist outlets are reporting about Hunter Biden and the laptop.  CNN even reported that the Hunter Biden Federal investigation of his business dealings "has picked up steam."

 

With the midterm elections only a few months away and the increasing chances Republicans are going to retake the House and Senate I find it odd the media is talking about it now?  Why not wait a few more months till after midterms?  Won't it become more of an issue before the election?

 

As I said just an observation.

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Republican party needs to be replaced, and either will be, or have to shift as the boomers die off. Some conservative values need to remain, but the party needs a major overhaul.

 

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I was a democrat until I realized that democrats were about as corrupt as they come in 2014. So I went independent. Since going independent I have kept a close on on both parties. While I don't like either of them much at all it's really clear that the democrats politicians are a bunch of racist idiots. I HATE them always using the race card, and I HATE that they fight fake wars like this "don't say gay" crap which has nothing to do with the bill that was passed. Nothing at all. I don't like democrats promising things to minorities and never delivering after they get the vote. 

 

I vote in local elections only as that has the most to do with our every day lives. 

 

Republicans don't do anything either. They don't defend themselves, they don't call out democrat racism and corruption enough, and they are too weak to stand up to the utter crap the progressive commie left is trying to push. Republicans have been trash too. I will never be a republican or a democrat.

 

 

I might have to go back to work now because I cannot make money on the market, and my 401k has lost about 25% value in 7 months. 

 

1. I cannot invest right now, because the stock market is just trash and you cannot trust anything. 

2. In Sacramento (downtown) about half the restaurants have closed down because they can't find people to work and the rules during covid were just suffocating. 

3. I have not been able to buy any baseball, football, cards because nothing is ever in stock. Literally nothing, for a year and a half has been available in a target or walmart. They don't ever update their web pages so you get tricked into thinking they have stock when they really don't. 

4. Prices on gas, and FOOD have been crazy. I was able to retire under Trump because my 401k rocked, stocks were doing great. Even under covid lockdowns my stocks were still doing awesome. Now I have to sit on my ever decreasing dollar which is only making a couple points, but losing more than that in total value. 

5. I cannot tap into my 401k yet because I am too young (without penalty), but I guess I should have because it's lost 26% value since last november. I cannot invest right now, so I might need to get a job again because of Biden. 

6. Under democrat rule, California has turned into a huge dump. There are homeless blanket forts everywhere (tarps, but they look like old school blanket forts you used to build with cushions and blankets). Along the freeway downtown there is this one blanket fort that's like 200 yards or more long. Lot of people live in it, and it looks pretty flipping neat (if I was still a kid). 

 

So replace both parties. The democrats are going WAY too far left, and the republicans are too much of pussies to do anything about ANYTHING. But replace democrats first because Biden is one flipping idiot of a president and he needs to leave ASAP. 

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10 hours ago, westside bengal said:

Just an observation.

 

The conservative media wrote about the existence of Hunter Biden's laptop from hell before the 2020 election.  The mainstream media either denied or refused to comment about the laptop for over 18 months for whatever reason.  Now the Washington Post, New York Times, CNN and other mainstream journalist outlets are reporting about Hunter Biden and the laptop.  CNN even reported that the Hunter Biden Federal investigation of his business dealings "has picked up steam."

 

With the midterm elections only a few months away and the increasing chances Republicans are going to retake the House and Senate I find it odd the media is talking about it now?  Why not wait a few more months till after midterms?  Won't it become more of an issue before the election?

 

As I said just an observation.

 

So when it's news you want them to just hold on to it like they did before the pres election so it doesn't ruing anyone's chances at getting elected?? The reason they cannot hold onto the news is because people are being indicted. You can't call it fake when people are actually being arrested for it. Those networks and newspapers and social media sites were being good corrupt little democrats by supressing it, even though they all knew it was real. Everyone has an agenda now, and their own media. That's why I just do my own research and get news from places that don't have their hat in the ring like fox/cnn/msnbc/ny times/ny post/wa times/wa post/facebook/twitter ect ect ect. 

 

Same thing happening with the whole Trump being spied on. They cannot call it fake anymore because people are being indicted for it, and the Clinton campaign is being fined for it. 

 

I hate politics even though I can't stop watching. But in the past 7 or 8 years since I went independant The democrats have gone batshoot crazy, and the republicans have turned into pussy turtles who keep their head in the shells. I hate them all lol. 

 

 

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20 hours ago, MichaelWeston said:

But he isn't a politician. And nothing has been substantiated. 

 

We saw Trump and his kin profit off the presidency for 4 years. 

 

How did Trump profit? They reported on EVERYTHING Trump did, like dumping fish food to two scoops of ice cream. I never heard anything about him profiting for four years. I am not in it either way. I don;t care about Biden or Trump, but I do have eyes and ears, and I do watch and read the news and the 4 years of Trump being president was the weirdest 4 years of news I have ever seen. So many lies by the news that I decided not to believe any of it. 

 

Hunter isn't a politician but he shared bank accounts with Joe. Joe also lied about not being involved with Hunter's business dealings. There are pics of him, and there are videos of Biden saying he was withholding Ukraine's money until they fired the guy that was looking into the Company Hunter was employed by. 

 

 

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48 minutes ago, Gary said:

I was a democrat until I realized that democrats were about as corrupt as they come in 2014. So I went independent. Since going independent I have kept a close on on both parties. While I don't like either of them much at all it's really clear that the democrats politicians are a bunch of racist idiots. I HATE them always using the race card, and I HATE that they fight fake wars like this "don't say gay" crap which has nothing to do with the bill that was passed. Nothing at all. I don't like democrats promising things to minorities and never delivering after they get the vote. 

 

I vote in local elections only as that has the most to do with our every day lives. 

 

Republicans don't do anything either. They don't defend themselves, they don't call out democrat racism and corruption enough, and they are too weak to stand up to the utter crap the progressive commie left is trying to push. Republicans have been trash too. I will never be a republican or a democrat.

 

 

I might have to go back to work now because I cannot make money on the market, and my 401k has lost about 25% value in 7 months. 

 

1. I cannot invest right now, because the stock market is just trash and you cannot trust anything. 

2. In Sacramento (downtown) about half the restaurants have closed down because they can't find people to work and the rules during covid were just suffocating. 

3. I have not been able to buy any baseball, football, cards because nothing is ever in stock. Literally nothing, for a year and a half has been available in a target or walmart. They don't ever update their web pages so you get tricked into thinking they have stock when they really don't. 

4. Prices on gas, and FOOD have been crazy. I was able to retire under Trump because my 401k rocked, stocks were doing great. Even under covid lockdowns my stocks were still doing awesome. Now I have to sit on my ever decreasing dollar which is only making a couple points, but losing more than that in total value. 

5. I cannot tap into my 401k yet because I am too young (without penalty), but I guess I should have because it's lost 26% value since last november. I cannot invest right now, so I might need to get a job again because of Biden. 

6. Under democrat rule, California has turned into a huge dump. There are homeless blanket forts everywhere (tarps, but they look like old school blanket forts you used to build with cushions and blankets). Along the freeway downtown there is this one blanket fort that's like 200 yards or more long. Lot of people live in it, and it looks pretty flipping neat (if I was still a kid). 

 

So replace both parties. The democrats are going WAY too far left, and the republicans are too much of pussies to do anything about ANYTHING. But replace democrats first because Biden is one flipping idiot of a president and he needs to leave ASAP. 

 

 

I dont even know where to start with this.....

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19 minutes ago, Jamie_B said:

This fixation with Hunter Biden is a distraction. He doesn't hold office and has no effect on public policy. 

 

Ginni Thomas doesn't hold office and has no effect on public policy.  So there should not be any media fixation with her.  True?

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9 minutes ago, westside bengal said:

 

Ginni Thomas doesn't hold office and has no effect on public policy.  So there should not be any media fixation with her.  True?

 

Sure.

 

Next question. Has Hunter Biden texted with anyone on his Dad's staff to try to overturn the election?

 

I don't necessary have issue with Thomas doing the work she's doing with regard to her agency, however her trying to get the election overturned does create a conflict of interest for her husband when it comes to ruling on the elections. 

 

Not sure I see anything remotely the same with Biden.

 

This is what we call a false equivalency. 

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