CB Offseason 2024

**MichaelWeston** · February 28

The final one

Probably 5 of the 6 spots are locks. Maybe 4

CTB-Stud #1CB

Turner-Up and down rookie year

Ivey-looked solid then hurt

Hilton-Might be due for a short extension

Davis-very well thought of here

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_oGEDBZnU6LESfPLyD8apeXSKI-OJ4Z8IWYd7YcnAsM/edit?usp=sharing

Draft Order	Cap	CB	Age	Overall	Run D	Pass Rush	Coverage	Snaps	Starts 23/Career	stats	Notes
		Hilton-Bengals	30	77.4	64.2	61.7	80.4	876	13/46	84-12fl-2h-2s-1fr-8pd-2int	678 Slot 66.5
		Taylor-Britt-Bengals	25	64.5	46.7		70.3	653	12/21	50-1fl-1ff-11pd-4int	545 C
		Turner-Bengals	24	51.5	64.4	63.8	48.4	827	12/12	50-2fl-1h-1s-2fr-7pd	735 C 111.6
		Awuzie-Bengals	29	62.6	68	56.2	62.3	722	10/74	57-2fl-1fr-1ff-6pd	589 C 113.5
		Davis-Bengals	28	51.4	72.4		46.5	53	0/0	5-1fr-1pd	34 Slot
		Ivey-Bengals	24	86.8	60.2		88.5	21	0/0	3-1fr-1pd	17 C
Outside
9		Johnson-Bears	25	90.8	67.2		91	809	14/53	36-1fl-1ff-10pd-4int	747 C 50.9		Franchised
		Ivey-Bengals	24	86.8	60.2		88.5	21	0/0	3-1fr-1pd	17 C
2		Fuller-Commanders	29	83.1	78.1	56.2	82.8	1020	15/93	79-2fl-2fr-9pd-2int	952 C 120.4
	1	Yiadom-Saints	28	81.1	74.7	60	80.4	517	8/28	37-1fr-15pd-1int	458 C
		Williams-Jaguars	31	79.5	29.9	57.1	85.3	1035	17/55	53-3fl-2ff-19pd-4int	979 C	CC
		Nelson-Texans	31	72.6	61.6	60	73.4	1192	16/115	63-12pd-4int	1001 Corner 73.3
		Sneed-Chiefs	27	72.5	70.8	61.6	73.8	1260	16/54	78-5fl-3h-1fr-14pd-2int	900 C 56.2		Franchised
	7	Gilmore-Cowboys	34	71.2	72.9		69.3	1055	17/158	68-1ff-13pd-2int	872 Corner 82.7
	10	Darby-Ravens	30	70.8	56	57.7	72.9	554	7/95	28-1fl-7pd	418 Corner 63.3
		White-Bills	29	68	29.9	68.7	79	182	4/82	12-1fl-1h-2pd-1int	153 Corner	CC
1		Griffin-Panthers	28	67	61.9	60	67	459	6/79	33-4pd-1int	409 C 72.4
10		Hall-Jets	27	66.4	80.3		62.8	138	2/26	7-1FR-2pd-1int	122 C 39.2
4		Hamilton-Cardinals	31	64.7	47.7	53.3	69.1	559	9/18	40-1ff-11pd-1int	395 C 73 Slot 86 B 90.8	Bettcher 19-18, Anarumo 18
		Taylor-Britt-Bengals		64.5	46.7		70.3	653	12/21	50-1fl-1ff-11pd-4int	545 C
		Robertson-Raiders	26	63.4	54.5	74.7	65.8	674	12/21	50-2fl-1h-1s-1ff-6pd-2int	506 C 100 Slot 87.4
	10	Ya-Sin-Ravens	28	63.4	55.5		64	281	1/39	13-2pd	258 Corner 112.6
		Witherspoon-Rams	29	62.8	70.2	56.2	60	1115	17/57	52-3fl-2fr-14pd-3int	902 C 75.7
	2	Jackson-Bills	27	62.7	28.8	60	69.7	578	6/28	39-1ff-5pd	432 Corner 119.2
		Awuzie-Bengals	29	62.6	68	56.2	62.3	722	10/74	57-2fl-1fr-1ff-6pd	589 C 113.5
	5	Moreau-Broncos	30	62.4	55.5	54.6	62.9	739	11/56	46-1fl-7pd-1int	640 C 98.5
		Mosely-Lions	28	60.6	60		60	2	0/33	22-afl-5pd-1int 2022	273 C		Lions
		Ballentine-Packers	28	59.8	50		61.1	534	6/10	43-7pd-1int	442 C 81.2
	8	Wallace-Stealers	29	57.9	44.1		60.4	762	9/70	38-11pd	659 C 95.1
7		Murphy-Bunting-Titans	27	57.6	69.3	76.7	54.4	840	14/50	57-3fl-1fr-2ff-8pd-2int	753 C 91.8
	6	Ford-Browns	29	56.8	29.7	64.7	64.2	159	1/10	28-2pd-1int	91 C-56 Slot 106.1
5	4	Davis-Chargers	29	56.5	64.1	77.8	54.3	886	13/74	62-3fl-10pd	774 C 119.2
		Howard-Dolphins	31	55.1	63.9	78.9	51.9	743	13/99	4501fl-1h-12pd-1int	667 Corner	Burks 2021, Anarumo	CC	Captain
8		Flowers-Falcons	29	53.9	91.2	52.3	41.9	200	3/44	21-1fl-2pd	174 C 134.5
		Vildor-Lions	26	52.6	63.7	74.9	49.5	388	2/24	11-2fl-1ff-2pd	186 C
	3	Apple-Dolphins	29	51.7	88.7	84.7	43.4	624	4/82	46-1h-9pd-1int	506 C
		Turner-Bengals	24	51.5	64.4	63.8	48.4	827	12/12	50-2fl-1h-1s-2fr-7pd	735 C 111.6
8		Okudoh-Falcons	25	50.5	68.8		46	596	9/31	44-1fl-3pd	508 C 94.5
6		Jackson-Giants	29	48.6	59.9	50.1	45.9	792	14/77	63-1ff-8pd-1int	608 C 95.5
7		Fulton-Titans	26	46.4	44.1	56.3	46.9	644	11/37	46-5pd	589 C 114.1
1		Henderson-Panthers	25	45.4	46.9	79.2	43.9	407	7/32	39-3fl-1s-2pd	352 C 106.8
		Shelley-Rams	28	42.5	71.6		36.9	76	0/11	8-1fr-2pd	61 C 69.9
		Jackson-Patriots	28	34.8	56.6	56.2	30.8	524	8/52	28-9pd-1int	431 C	CC
	7	Igbinohhene-Cowboys	24	31.9	60.8		29.7	25	0/5	NA	23 Corner	Burks 2021
		Crossen-Dolphins	30						2/6			CC	IR
Slot
		Moore-Colts	30	77.4	71.5	68.1	79.3	1089	16/89	93-8fl-2h-1.5s-6pd-3int	685 Slot 96.6
		Hilton-Bengals	30	77.4	64.2	61.7	80.4	876	13/46	84-12fl-2h-2s-1fr-8pd-2int	678 Slot 66.5
		King-Texans	29	74.2	80.4	57.4	80.7	400	3/56	47-5fl-2h-1s-2pd	251 Slot 99
		Thomas-Texans	28	72.2	83.2	44.3	69.5	352	5/22	51-2fl-2ff-1pd	303 Slot 111.6
		Herndon-Jaguars	28	70.8	29.7	89	73.1	482	4/34	46-1fl-3h-1ff-9pd	424 Slot
		Oliver-49ers	28	67.6	59.8	58	70.9	503	6/44	67-2fl-3h-1fr-2pd-1int	424 Slot	CC
	3	Bethel-Dolphins	34	67.6	65.6	90.9	62	126	1/15	19-2fl-.5s-1pd	88 Slot
	10	Maulet-Ravens	31	67.3	73.2	80.2	62.7	458	3/23	37-5fl-3h-2s-2fr-5ff-1int	343 Slot 65.8
3		Bryant-Patriots	26	66.6	84.3	52.9	63.1	852	9/17	77-7fl-1h-1s-7pd-1int	541 slot 166 C 103.4
	9	Burns-Seahawks	29	66.5	65.4	76.8	66.6	232	1/39	23-2fl-2pd	202 Slot 89.4
6		Holmes-Giants	26	63.9	44	54.1	68.7	123	0/11	18-1fl-1ff-3pd-2int	87 Slot 64.6
1		Hill-Panthers	33	62.4	58.4	41	68.2	493	3/58	48-3fl-6pd-1int	360 slot 98.1
		Nixon-Packers	27	60.7	55.2	74	61.2	937	13/19	80-3fl-1h-.5s-2fr-6pd-1int	635 Slot 104.8
		Sullivan-Stealers	28	60.4	42.4	57.1	65.9	442	2/33	22-1fl-1ff-6pd	348 Slot 59.4
		Roby-Eagles	32	56.9	50.2	68.2	57	379	2/62	22-2fl-1h-1ff	289 Slot
5	4	Bassey-Chargers	26	52,2	39.2	47.4	68.7	353	1/5	13-3pd	284 Slot 107
	3	Needham-Dolphins	28	50.8	61.7	56.3	49.7	73	0/27	7	56 Slot 87.5	Burks 2021
		Maddoxx-Eagles	28	50.6	76.4		45.2	141	2/38	12-1fl-1ff-2pd	123 Slot	CC
	7	Lewis-Cowboys	29	50.1	90.8	48.3	39.5	771	8/51	52-2fl-2fr-3ff-5pd	610 Slot 93.9
		Harris-Lions	28	43	57.1	46.4	41.4	195	2/40	18-1h-1fr-2pd-1int	115 Slot
		Neal-Bills	30	40.2	63.8	74	33.4	47	0/1	13	34 Slot	CC

Looking for a fringe starter at Corner who can start but be ok as depth

-Antonio Hamilton-Cards-Starting Experience, played for Anarumo and Betcher

-Xavien Howard-31, Played for Burks and Anarumo

-Lots of other options with starting experienices

spicoli · February 29

I feel like corner is a pretty safe bet in this draft for us in all honesty. Terrion Arnold or Quinyon Mitchell would be nice pieces to add to that D.

T-Dub · February 29

2 hours ago, spicoli said:

I feel like corner is a pretty safe bet in this draft for us in all honesty. Terrion Arnold or Quinyon Mitchell would be nice pieces to add to that D.

Those late first round DBs have been pretty good to us

gupps · February 29

If we didn't have holes at DT and RT I wouldn't mind. A nice push up the middle sure would make the DBs look a lot better. And while I'm dreaming, with a good RT maybe the defense doesn't sniff the field except for pregame warmups. 🙂

**MichaelWeston** · February 29

Where does everyone land on Turner?

texbengal · February 29

12 minutes ago, MichaelWeston said:

Where does everyone land on Turner?

IMO, I think he's really talented but after a good start, he dropped off and struggled quite a bit. Not sold on him as a starter (yet) although I thought he played a physical game, which did surprise me (in a good way). He's got speed and change of direction in spades, which are key, and he plays with an edge, which I like. OTOH, he didn't play the ball in the air very well, which is a concern.

That said, had Chido been 100% healthy (and when he did play, play better), Turner likely would have played less... so while the reps Turner got should help him going forward, he got spun around some and didn't look great. Some time learning by watching might have minimized that, but he got thrown into the deep end and it showed. So overall, I'd say that you saw some good things, but he's definitely a work in progress and he's got to get better in order to be counted on as a reliable starter.

Like others, I expect the Bengals to draft at least one corner... and/or a safety. You've got interesting young guys like Tycen Anderson and DJ Ivey, but they are coming off tough injuries... and then guys like Sidney Jones, Jalen Davis and Allan George, are basically unproven depth.

I love Cooper DeJean and he could contribute in a variety of ways, but that may be a bit of a luxury pick, given the needs at DT and T, especially. I heard he's not working out at the Combine, given his injury late last season, but hopefully he'll be good to go prior to the draft.

**MichaelWeston** · February 29

This is a tough one for me. I think veterans sliding in at corner and safety make the most sense with how young we are. This is how I have it mocked up. Veterans in turquoise or whatever color you want to call that. To me rookies just create more questions and don't provide the incubator for the 6 young guys we already like. A steady veteran at both positions I think would.

This is another position where I find I have locked in my thinking. I have seen a lot of people say Rd 1 should be RT-DT-Bowers or a Corner. I just can't see the corner. I really liked how Turner and Ivey played despite the hiccups you mentioned-which I don't disagree with.

S	Battle 27		UDFA	UDFA
S	Hill 27	Anderson 26	UDFA
CB	Taylor-Britt 26		George
CB	Turner 27	Ivey 27	UDFA
NB	Hilton 25	Davis 25	UDFA

spicoli · February 29

9 hours ago, T-Dub said:

Those late first round DBs have been pretty good to us

Yeah I agree. I definitely won’t complain if thats the route we take…especially if we can grab one of Arnold or Mitchell.

texbengal · February 29

13 minutes ago, MichaelWeston said:

This is a tough one for me. I think veterans sliding in at corner and safety make the most sense with how young we are. This is how I have it mocked up. Veterans in turquoise or whatever color you want to call that. To me rookies just create more questions and don't provide the incubator for the 6 young guys we already like. A steady veteran at both positions I think would.

This is another position where I find I have locked in my thinking. I have seen a lot of people say Rd 1 should be RT-DT-Bowers or a Corner. I just can't see the corner. I really liked how Turner and Ivey played despite the hiccups you mentioned-which I don't disagree with.

S Battle 27 UDFA UDFA

S Hill 27 Anderson 26 UDFA

CB Taylor-Britt 26 George

CB Turner 27 Ivey 27 UDFA

NB Hilton 25 Davis 25 UDFA

Sure, a vet is always welcome, especially given the youth they have at the position, as you noted. Guys like Mike Thomas, Chido, and Hilton helped the young guys get up to speed for sure, and the in-game experience no doubt helps.

Maybe Chido comes back... I just know he wasn't good last year. Maybe it was the injury... and hats off to him for getting back quickly and trying to contribute. I'm sure he helped in the room, but on the field, he wasn't close to the same guy. But sometimes year 2 after an injury is a lot better.

I liked Sidney Jones coming out of college, but then he got a bad injury before the draft and really hasn't done much since. He barely was active all season. But you can find vets out there that can contribute, no doubt. As an example, Stephon Gilmore was 30+ and after playing well in Indy the year prior, Dallas picked him up last year, and he played really well overall.

HavePityPlease · February 29

1 hour ago, MichaelWeston said:

Where does everyone land on Turner?

To sort of agree and expand on what tex said, Turner showed impressive coverage ability and was willing when filling on runs - when he was a spot player. Once he was forced to start he wore down quickly and seemed overwhelmed more often than not. That could be rookie struggles but it could also mean he's not suited to be a full-time outside starter (too physically fragile?).

FWIW I'm happy to see how he does in year 2 with some confidence that if he ends up a spot coverage guy who contributes on special teams he can thrive. Either way we need competition for our #2 CB spot.

**MichaelWeston** · February 29

7 minutes ago, HavePityPlease said:

To sort of agree and expand on what tex said, Turner showed impressive coverage ability and was willing when filling on runs - when he was a spot player. Once he was forced to start he wore down quickly and seemed overwhelmed more often than not. That could be rookie struggles but it could also mean he's not suited to be a full-time outside starter (too physically fragile?).

FWIW I'm happy to see how he does in year 2 with some confidence that if he ends up a spot coverage guy who contributes on special teams he can thrive. Either way we need competition for our #2 CB spot.

This team is full of guys just like that. We can't quite count on yet but we have an investment and we need to see where that investment goes. Turner-Hill-Murphy-Jones-Yoshi-Brown.

Without snaps they won't develop. We can't count on them enough yet to give them snaps. Leveraging vets around them I think mitigates that. That's an argument for the return of Mixon, Higgins, Signing vets at S-Slot WR and Corner.

sparky151 · February 29

We can give them snaps without making them unquestioned starters.

I was overall not too impressed with Turner. He looks like he could be depth and possibly a successor to Hilton but he's not very big. It would be nice to add a veteran with some size. Tre Flowers seems like an obvious choice. He's 6'3". I don't want to start him either, just use him as a backup/competition for George or Davis.

CB is probably a need for us and this draft has a decent group. But it's not a first round need at least until we fill some other positions in free agency. We won't go for a top CB in FA.

**MichaelWeston** · March 8

Stealers cut Patrick Peterson

claptonrocks · March 8

On 2/29/2024 at 9:15 AM, texbengal said:

IMO, I think he's really talented but after a good start, he dropped off and struggled quite a bit. Not sold on him as a starter (yet) although I thought he played a physical game, which did surprise me (in a good way). He's got speed and change of direction in spades, which are key, and he plays with an edge, which I like. OTOH, he didn't play the ball in the air very well, which is a concern.

That said, had Chido been 100% healthy (and when he did play, play better), Turner likely would have played less... so while the reps Turner got should help him going forward, he got spun around some and didn't look great. Some time learning by watching might have minimized that, but he got thrown into the deep end and it showed. So overall, I'd say that you saw some good things, but he's definitely a work in progress and he's got to get better in order to be counted on as a reliable starter.

Like others, I expect the Bengals to draft at least one corner... and/or a safety. You've got interesting young guys like Tycen Anderson and DJ Ivey, but they are coming off tough injuries... and then guys like Sidney Jones, Jalen Davis and Allan George, are basically unproven depth.

I love Cooper DeJean and he could contribute in a variety of ways, but that may be a bit of a luxury pick, given the needs at DT and T, especially. I heard he's not working out at the Combine, given his injury late last season, but hopefully he'll be good to go prior to the draft.

Allways liked Allen George but apparently hes not in the immediate plans.

sparky151 · March 8

1 hour ago, claptonrocks said:

Allways liked Allen George but apparently hes not in the immediate plans.

I'd expect George and Davis back in the Bengals camp in July. Unless someone else gives them a good contract but that's unlikely.

**MichaelWeston** · March 8

1 minute ago, sparky151 said:

I'd expect George and Davis back in the Bengals camp in July. Unless someone else gives them a good contract but that's unlikely.

I think both are under contract.

texbengal · March 8

1 minute ago, MichaelWeston said:

I think both are under contract.

Yes. I like Davis, although his only memorable play last year (at least, that I recall) was getting beaten for a touchdown. George has stayed around for two years, so obviously they see something... but I don't remember if he even suited up on gameday last year.

sparky151 · March 8

9 minutes ago, MichaelWeston said:

I think both are under contract.

Yep. They'll probably get waived at the end of preseason to go to the practice squad and could get claimed but most likely they'll be Bengals.

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