Trey'd Hendrickson? I don't think so.

[sparky151]

The funny bit is that they aren't bound to let him play out his full extension. It's easily doable to structure it in a way that leaves minimal dead money when the time comes that he isn't worth his deal. Maxx Crosby's contract does that. Raiders just gave him a raise on his current deal without a big signing bonus that gets prorated. They also guaranteed the first couple of years of the deal plus partially guaranteed some money in 2027. 

 

Bengals aren't going to cut Trey before the 2025 season and even if he has a down year are unlikely to cut him before 2026. So they don't really have a good reason not to extend him other than their philosophical objection to guaranteeing money after year 1. 

[LostInDaJungle]

2 hours ago, sparky151 said:

The funny bit is that they aren't bound to let him play out his full extension. It's easily doable to structure it in a way that leaves minimal dead money when the time comes that he isn't worth his deal. Maxx Crosby's contract does that. Raiders just gave him a raise on his current deal without a big signing bonus that gets prorated. They also guaranteed the first couple of years of the deal plus partially guaranteed some money in 2027. 

 

Bengals aren't going to cut Trey before the 2025 season and even if he has a down year are unlikely to cut him before 2026. So they don't really have a good reason not to extend him other than their philosophical objection to guaranteeing money after year 1. 

"Hey, we found a good bargain, and it isn't fair for him to ask for more money now!"

Katie would rather be the "smart GM" that finds good bargains than field a competitive team. She'd rather have a team full of great bargains than a team full of great players.

Since signing Burrow - Not one contract worth more than $40M. For all of the whinging over what Jessie Bates would cost, Tee remains unsigned, and that extra Jessie Bates money went towards Geno Stone and Sheldon Rankins.

If Katie's last name was "Smith", you wouldn't let her manage your fantasy football team.

[LostInDaJungle]

7 hours ago, BronxBengal said:

https://www.cincyjungle.com/2025/3/7/24380548/bengals-trey-hendrickson-contract-offer
 

offering Trey $30 million a year and he still is not happy?  I have no clue who and what to believe anymore in all of these contract negotiations.  $30 million seems fair to me and yet Trey isn’t happy?  The posturing by leaking BS to the media serves what purpose for the player and agent?
 

 Likewise, ownership not saying anything other then little Duke Tobin perplexes me because we all know Duke has no say in these financial decisions.  It is being constantly clear that the Brown family wants it their way with no compromises.  Every negotiation the Brown family has with players or county there is posturing by the Brown family that they appear inflexible.  If this is their strategy it isn’t working because it appears they are not working towards an end state and alienating the fan base as well as their negotiating partners. 

 

I guess winning a Super Bowl is more important to the fan and less for the ownership, players and agents

We don't know how that 30M a year is structured, length of the deal...

I mean Tee Higgins is making $26M this year and has every right to not be happy.

For all we know the contract specified that he be paid in Roubles. And the "leaks" are obviously happening from both sides, so it's kinda rich to assume this is all from "players and agents". Trey's agent isn't out there leaking that they turned down a contract in the right salary range with no explanation.

And a lot of times... See Whitworth, it isn't even about pure dollars and cents, it's about feeling respected and appreciated. Something the Bengals FO doesn't seem to understand.

[|BlackJesus|]

Offering Trey between 30-32 a year (like reports say) is more than fair. In fact it's an overpay. 

 

So I can see why the team would offer him that and when he rebuffed, give him permission to see if anyone else will give more. 

[|BlackJesus|]

If Trey's traded, to me the ideal be getting both Chicago's second Rd picks # 39 and 41. 

 

I would even throw in the Bengals 5th rd pick to get that deal. 

[Le Tigre]

And just who do you draft, with these vaunted picks? And specifically: for the replacement of the All Pro DE? And do those picks translate anything towards 2025?

[LostInDaJungle]

39 minutes ago, BlackJesus said:

Offering Trey between 30-32 a year (like reports say) is more than fair. In fact it's an overpay. 

Is it fair if it's only being offered as a 1 year deal?

Again, $26M for Tee is more than fair, but we still get why he's not happy about it because we understand the rest of the terms of the deal. Acting like Trey turned down a sweetheart deal because you've heard a number in a league where contract amounts are very fluid... Seems a little rash.

And remember that this is coming from the same source who likes the narrative that Jamarr Chase was all set to sign a contract last year and just... Changed his mind at the last minute. Same for Tee getting this great offer he supposedly just tuned down for no reason at all. Before publicly stating his desire to remain in Cincy and changing agents. Despite them leaking to the media that they keep offering guys the "same amount of money" but they keep choosing to sign with other teams.

That "32M a year" might actually be $20-$30M less than he could get from some other team willing to do a modern NFL contract with void years and such. It might be $60M less than the $92M guaranteed that Crosby just got.

I mean... The Raiders just paid Crosby $35M APY. I don't know how the runner up for DPOY is "overpaid" at $30M. Y'all are making me start to root for him to be traded since he obviously isn't appreciated here. You think these guys are a dime a dozen in the draft. If you're so sure that some draft pick can just step into these shoes, then you all can bitch about Myles Murphy sucking ass next year. Let's hear about Trey's supposed "poor run defense" then.

[LostInDaJungle]

38 minutes ago, BlackJesus said:

If Trey's traded, to me the ideal be getting both Chicago's second Rd picks # 39 and 41. 

 

I would even throw in the Bengals 5th rd pick to get that deal. 

Sam "m-fing" Hubbard couldn't be replaced by our last 2 draft picks at the position - Myles Murphy (1st) and Joseph Ossai (3rd).

Good luck with that.

[sparky151]

3 hours ago, LostInDaJungle said:

"Hey, we found a good bargain, and it isn't fair for him to ask for more money now!"

Katie would rather be the "smart GM" that finds good bargains than field a competitive team. She'd rather have a team full of great bargains than a team full of great players.

Since signing Burrow - Not one contract worth more than $40M. For all of the whinging over what Jessie Bates would cost, Tee remains unsigned, and that extra Jessie Bates money went towards Geno Stone and Sheldon Rankins.

If Katie's last name was "Smith", you wouldn't let her manage your fantasy football team.

 

It's a little bit shocking when you consider that she's been around the NFL all her life, yet struggles to get contracts done that other NFL teams knock out easily. It's got nothing to do with a lack of resources, every NFL team generates enough revenue to not only pay the players but the staff and ownership too. Bengals just prefer not to spend more than required and that seems to carry over to player contracts.

 

2 hours ago, BlackJesus said:

Offering Trey between 30-32 a year (like reports say) is more than fair. In fact it's an overpay. 

 

So I can see why the team would offer him that and when he rebuffed, give him permission to see if anyone else will give more. 

 

How is it an overpay? He just led the league in sacks and even at 32 mil would be behind some other DEs.

 

1 hour ago, BlackJesus said:

If Trey's traded, to me the ideal be getting both Chicago's second Rd picks # 39 and 41. 

 

I would even throw in the Bengals 5th rd pick to get that deal. 

 

I doubt Chicago would do that. But if so, the Bengals should seriously consider it. It would depend on them being able to sign Josh Sweat as the replacement for Trey. He's better at run defense, not as good at generating pressure. He's a couple years younger than Trey which the Bengals seem to think is a deal breaker. If they signed 28 year old Sweat, the guaranteed money could be elapsed before he turns 30. 

 

1 hour ago, Le Tigre said:

And just who do you draft, with these vaunted picks? And specifically: for the replacement of the All Pro DE? And do those picks translate anything towards 2025?

 

Draft picks are like a mystery box. They could be anything, include an All-Pro DE. If we lose Trey but sign Sweat and get the picks, we can also sign a couple of veteran DTs and guards then draft BPA. Then, with a pick at 17 and 3 more between 39 and 49, we might do something like take Mike Green, Jihaad Campbell, Xavier Watts, and Deone Walker. It depends on how quickly Golden can turn the defense around. Sweat won't play to Hendrickson's level but the d-line might be better overall as a group. 

 

[|BlackJesus|]

[claptonrocks]

20 minutes ago, BlackJesus said:

Significant compensation .

They want at the very least a 1st and as Washington is drafting 29 Katy might want 3rd from them as well..

On Washington side they get an AllPro DE to compensate for 2 unknown picks.

 

If I'm either team I make the trade.

 

[dex]

6 minutes ago, claptonrocks said:

Significant compensation .

They want at the very least a 1st and as Washington is drafting 29 Katy might want 3rd from them as well..

On Washington side they get an AllPro DE to compensate for 2 unknown picks.

 

If I'm either team I make the trade.

 

Due to Hendrickson's age and struggles against the run, I think the best they can hope for is a 2nd round pick. If Joe Thuney is only worth a 4th round pick, then a 1st round pick for Hendrickson seems like a pipe dream.

 

With the price of free agents rising even though the quality of the players are not, draft picks become even more important to teams. I believe this is the first year in decades where all 32 NFL teams are still holding their own 1st round picks in the upcoming draft.

[claptonrocks]

2 minutes ago, dex said:

Due to Hendrickson's age and struggles against the run, I think the best they can hope for is a 2nd round pick. If Joe Thuney is only worth a 4th round pick, then a 1st round pick for Hendrickson seems like a pipe dream.

 

With the price of free agents rising even though the quality of the players are not, draft picks become even more important to teams. I believe this is the first year in decades where all 32 NFL teams are still holding their own 1st round picks in the upcoming draft.

Good points.

If I'm the Bengals it's a 1st and will negotiate for a 3rd as well.

I suppose they would take pick 29 but id like to see the extra pick as well.

 

If not his ass is playing for the Bengals this season for a playoff push..

[LostInDaJungle]

Myles Garrett extended for 4 years at $40M APY! https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/football/cleveland-browns-myles-garrett-becomes-highest-paid-non-quarterback-after-signing-4-year-contract-extension/ar-AA1Azbak?

The Browns now have his rights until he's 33. This is how you take care of a premier pass rusher.

 

Please tell me again how $30M is an "overpay" for Trey Hendrickson?? I'm dying to hear it.

[Le Tigre]

“Can’t play the run”. 
 

—-Go Bengals.com experts 

[LostInDaJungle]

I say we trade Chase, Higgins, and Hendrickson to the Commanders for all of their Day 1 and 2 picks for the next decade.

Washington gets an immediate supporting cast to help get Jaylen Daniels to the Super Bowl, they all get to play for semi-competent management, and not only is the stadium much closer to where I live, but training camp would literally be 20 minutes away.

I mean, let's face it, if these guys really cared about football more than money, they'd all play for $200 a week and a box of steaks. We need "real" football players in Cincy that are there to get CTE for the love of the game. Not these overpaid divas. Let them come to DC where they can play in a stadium with a much better beer selection and easy parking.

TRADE TREY! #tradetrey

[Le Tigre]

You’re killing me,Lost! 😂

[claptonrocks]

22 hours ago, BlackJesus said:

If Trey's traded, to me the ideal be getting both Chicago's second Rd picks # 39 and 41. 

 

I would even throw in the Bengals 5th rd pick to get that deal. 

I like that helluva lot more than Washington 29..

 

[T-Dub]

40 minutes ago, Le Tigre said:

“Can’t play the run”. 
 

—-Go Bengals.com experts 

 

Translation: He can't cover for interior DL on roller skates & 8 others schlubs that won't tackle.  More sacks than anyone in the NFL playing next to rookies and street FA's. 

 

Owners are showing they won't pay for a championship-caliber team and the fans are talking themselves out of it.  Passing around a Copium-soaked Dalton jersey from Goodwill, mumbling "overrated" to themselves between drags... Shit's crazy, it's like Stockholm Syndrome in here.  Just one more comp pick & we'll get this rebuild going!

 

On the bright side, at least there's the possibility of a bidding war for Trey.  I know they're asking late 1st but we could potentially trade picks and get into the low teens instead.

 

Where, if we're really, really extra lucky, we might get a rookie that is closer to Trey than Mild Murphy.  Plus a big contract off the books, which they're totally going to reinvest into not hot air balloon rides and rare chandeliers.  Someday.

 

Don't bogart that Andy, bro. Huff, seethe, pass!

[LostInDaJungle]

1 minute ago, claptonrocks said:

I like that helluva lot more than Washington 29..

 

Not until they get their new Stadium. Soldier field is old, parking is terrible, and the COL in Chicago is outrageous.

I'm doing consulting work for a company in Miami, so the Dolphins would also be a nice trade destination. No state income tax! Trey would be known as "El Trio Diablo", and Jamarr Chase could come up with some sort of salsa themed touchdown dance. Tee can eat empanadas at the game instead of glizzys!

I'm excited! Why root for some boring old pro-bowler when you could have exciting rookies like Jermaine Burton? Kris Jenkins can easily replace Trey's 17.5 sacks. Most of them are just Trey fluffing his numbers against bad starting NFL LT's anyway. Besides, who doesn't love Jay Tufele?? Mas Tufele por favor! Gracias senora Katie!!

[sparky151]

2 hours ago, dex said:

Due to Hendrickson's age and struggles against the run, I think the best they can hope for is a 2nd round pick. If Joe Thuney is only worth a 4th round pick, then a 1st round pick for Hendrickson seems like a pipe dream.

 

With the price of free agents rising even though the quality of the players are not, draft picks become even more important to teams. I believe this is the first year in decades where all 32 NFL teams are still holding their own 1st round picks in the upcoming draft.

 

Well, first of all the Bengals aren't especially eager to trade Hendrickson. Secondly, he has performed at a very high level the last couple of years, with the most sacks in the league over that time and was runner up for DPOY this past season. So nobody is going to get a discount on a trade for Trey, unlike say Pratt. It will take substantial value to obtain him. With the Garrett news, he looks like even more of a bargain for 2025 and knowing that he'll want an extension.

 

 

 

 

[|BlackJesus|]

"If the Bengals don't use 75% of their salary cap on 4 players, they must not want to win." 

~ Those rejecting the Dalton huffs 

[LostInDaJungle]

5 minutes ago, T-Dub said:

Plus a big contract off the books, which they're totally going to reinvest into not hot air balloon rides and rare chandeliers.  Someday.

Mike Brown is saving up for the nicest Trophy Case you've ever seen. Rosewood and mahogany with the most delicate veneers....

But seriously, who's going to be laughing in two years when the Eagles have to have a rebuilding year and we're still sitting on $250M in cap space?? That Lombardy trophy won't seem so nice then, will it? (No, seriously, I'm asking. We have no idea what that's like. You regret it later, right??)

[|BlackJesus|]

Reminder: The Bengals, like all NFL teams, are legally obligated to spend 90% of the cap over a 5 year period. And they do even more. 

 

This has nothing to do with "cheapness". But a overly conservative financial philosophy, where they are risk averse of doing future payouts for players who may fall off or get injured. 

 

* The deals they offered all of them are probably fair, but not fiscally irrational, like the Cleveland owner just did. 

[LostInDaJungle]

1 minute ago, BlackJesus said:

"If the Bengals don't use 75% of their salary cap on 4 players, they must not want to win." 

~ Those rejecting the Dalton huffs 

Since the Bengals don't do modern NFL contracts, I feel justified in saying we can't pay these guys like every other team in the league manages to do.
~ Those waiting in line for the Kool-Aid